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2012 ELECTION LIVE THREAD II !!!!!!!!
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Posted on 11/06/2012 4:02:30 PM PST by GQuagmire

Edited on 11/06/2012 5:00:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since I haven't seen one yet, I'll start it.


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KEYWORDS: 2012electionlive; election; live2012election
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To: Freeper Fanatic

Does Obama still get to blame everything on Bush


Definitely yes. And the Republicans in the House. And so will Pravda West. He won’t be held accountable for anything that goes wrong in the next 4 years than he was in the first 4 years.


1,951 posted on 11/07/2012 8:48:47 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: GQuagmire

Did Romney get ANY battleground states? I don’t think so. Even coal states like PA and Ohio slit their own throats and went for obama. (and I will have no pity whatsoever for those two states when things get even worst) And it looks like Romney lost FL, too.


1,952 posted on 11/07/2012 8:57:00 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: patriot08

Apologies to the virgins.


1,953 posted on 11/07/2012 9:13:31 AM PST by goron (It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees.)
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To: BlueLancer

My bad.


1,954 posted on 11/07/2012 9:43:01 AM PST by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (Time to Reload)
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To: John O

Are we descending into word games now? Have you renounced your citizenship? Have you ousted theirs? (Both no)

It’s kind of hard to say out of one side of your mouth to someone, I hate you to your very guts, and out of the other side, “God so loved the world that...”


1,955 posted on 11/07/2012 11:09:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: chessplayer

It would be curious to see how it broke down.

Barack’s machine did a far better job of GOTV than the GOP did. If the GOP hopes to improve on that situation in the future, it has some new ground to break. Hoping to appeal to reasonable citizens in their living rooms looking at their TV sets won’t cut it against relentless armies who did everything but promise the moon to those who would go and vote Barack back in. Does the GOP feel that to get its own relentless armies are beneath it? That just drawing more to its rallies is enough to assure a comfortable edge?


1,956 posted on 11/07/2012 11:15:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: Aurorales

If you want to take the scissors and take the love one another verses out of your bible, feel free, but don’t call that the oracle of God any more.


1,957 posted on 11/07/2012 11:18:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: goron

Unlike DU, there are ladies who read this board and we do not appreciate vulagarity.


1,958 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:45 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: goron

Vularity+ vulgarity


1,959 posted on 11/07/2012 11:35:51 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Not voting is voting. Enjoy the next four years that you successfully voted for.


1,960 posted on 11/07/2012 12:45:25 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: plain talk

“So there is no quick fix.”

The impending economic crisis will be very educational the same way a hot burglary is in a gun-free house.


1,961 posted on 11/07/2012 12:47:43 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
People vote for People Who Are Like ThemTM. Not everyone, of course, but most. Everyone wants either (a) "special recognition" of their uniqueness, (b) "respect", i.e. having their asses kissed (not doing so is "dissing" them), (c) more of their race until they achieve supremacy over all others, or (d) someone who believes *exactly* as they do.

I maintain that it's one of the baser, yet immutable, parts of human nature. The difference between us and the Rat elitists (especially the MSM) is that they have no problem appealing to it.

There are some disturbing logical conclusions to draw from all this on what we face and how we might survive. I can't say this surprises me, though; history is replete with cycles of barbarism.
1,962 posted on 11/07/2012 12:58:08 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

” The impending economic crisis will be very educational the same way a hot burglary is in a gun-free house.”

Right around the corner too.


1,963 posted on 11/07/2012 1:29:09 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I voted for Goode. Had you people not shoved RMoney down our throats, we could have defeated Obama. Now we have to wait 4 more years.


1,964 posted on 11/07/2012 2:40:07 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All
I agree, it is a miracle.

I got this email from Grassfire Nation today and I want to share it with everyone. I think it helps put some of what we are discussing in context. I certainly lifted my spirits.:

I want to share with you a letter that, although 2,500 years old, it could have been written this morning. For us. For faithful patriots who feel like they just discovered they will have to live at least the next four years in exile.

This letter was written to Jewish exiles who had been pushed out of Jerusalem and forced to live under a tyrannical ruler named Nebuchadnezzar.

The exiles wanted one thing: they wanted to be re-established back in Israel. They even had a prophet named Hananiah come to them and tell them that their time of exile would only last two years.

You can read about it in Jeremiah 28.

Hananiah was a false prophet. He died.

And so Jeremiah wrote a letter to the exiles. You've probably heard a part of that letter recited many times. It's one of the most commonly quoted passages in the entire Bible. Unfortunately, this passage is mostly taken out of its proper context and delivered as a "feel good" word that everything is going to be O.K.

One of my friends was quoting this verse yesterday morning:

    "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

Those words sound so good. The future is bright. God has a plan for prosperity, for a real hope and a real future. On the eve of the election, it must have meant a Romney win, the GOP takes the Senate and we start the rollback of the Obama regime, right?

Not exactly.

+ + The Plan Was Exile

Here's the shocking context of Jeremiah 29 (and I offer to you, the context for November 6, 2012): the plan was exile.

That was the "plan" Jeremiah's letter was talking about. I encourage you to go read all of Jeremiah 29. Here is the immediate context:

    This is what the Lord says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place. For I know the plans I have for you ..."

The plan was 70 years of exile. Keep that in mind the next time someone quotes Jeremiah 29:11 to encourage you that your time of trouble will soon end. Not only was the exile going to last 70 years, the exile WAS the plan!

If you don't believe me, go back and read the beginning of the letter, from Jeremiah 29:4. Here you'll see the Lord (through Jeremiah) giving the Jewish exiles specific instructions on how to conduct themselves in exile:

--Build houses and settle down.

--Plan gardens and eat what they produce.

--Marry and have sons and daughters.

--Marry off your sons and daughters so they can have children.

--Increase in number; do not decrease.

Again, remember the context. A false prophet had just come and said the time of exile would only last two years. That prophet died. The truth is, the people will be in exile for 70 years. And the directive is to build families, grow businesses, think trans-generationally and increase.

+ + Seek the Welfare of the Land

It gets better. Because Jeremiah's letter makes it clear that building and marrying is not enough. People in exile must do something else -- they must be a blessing to the land.

    "Also, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper."

So let's review. First, the plan is exile. Second, build. Third, bless. Simple, clear instructions.

But why was this important? Why a "plan" for exile with specific instructions on how to act in exile?

Historians tell us it was during the Babylonian captivity that the Israelites moved from a Temple/Jerusalem focused society to a synagogue and community focused society. Simply put ...

It was the lessons learned during their time in exile which enabled the Jews to survive 2,500 years in exile. But not just survive -- but to thrive and become the most prosperous, most successful and most innovative people group in the history of civilization.

Exile was the plan.

So that's why, today, I'm going to build. And I'm going to plant. I'm going to bless. And I'm going to pray.

For that is the final piece to the puzzle ...

"Then you will call on me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart."

So let's get building. Let's get planting. And let's get praying. And let's bless this land. There are lessons to be learned in exile.

Steve Elliott, Grassfire

1,965 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:21 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Amen! The audacity of God’s grace!


1,966 posted on 11/07/2012 3:23:34 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Moose4; Strategerist; PhiloBedo; proud American in Canada; Tax-chick

I agree Moose4, this shouldn’t have happened, not with Obama’s record.

If the people voted for Bread and Circuses, the Republic is lost.

If the Dems did steal this, and get away with it, the Republic is lost.

If the Dems did steal this, and somehow the fraud is caught, the Republic of the United States could recover and rebuild.

It’s just that I’m not sure that last option is included in God’s plan for us all.

Maybe the bible is true.


1,967 posted on 11/07/2012 4:29:24 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: Eaker

Liberl...
Yah, that’s a real laffer.

HAVE YOU EVER READ MY POSTS, DUDE?


1,968 posted on 11/07/2012 5:18:39 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: tcrlaf

I read your posts to me on this thread and stand by my responses.

Other than that I don’t know you at all.


1,969 posted on 11/07/2012 5:44:20 PM PST by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: Eaker

Then, by all means, feel FREE to blow it out of the orifice of your choice, then.

I walked FIVE MILES of sidewalks in Northern Hamilton County on Tuesday morning, knocking on doors.

Tuesday afternoon I was making phone calls, trying to get people to the polls.

EXACTLY WHAT WERE YOU DOING, besides grousing on an anonymous internet message board about it?


1,970 posted on 11/07/2012 6:02:07 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: fanfan

If the people voted for Bread and Circuses, the Republic is lost.
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We are in the iPhone, luxury box 21st century but nothing has changed. Instead of giving the masses bread and circuses, they give them SNAP debit cards for bread and “Dancing with the Stars”. They’ll even throw in dead babies, free pills and rubbers, hordes of alien invaders and gay sex to keep the masses quiet and happy.

Before we say our Republic will go the way of Rome and Greece, our founders anticipated something like this and emphasized separation of powers.

The people’s house can stop a lot of the Statist agenda.


1,971 posted on 11/07/2012 8:07:45 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

The people’s house can stop a lot of the Statist agenda.

Then they better get busy.


1,972 posted on 11/08/2012 3:54:58 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan

No. They need to do nothing.

Gridlock is good. It prevents our fellow citizens from controlling us.


1,973 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:35 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Windcatcher

“history is replete with cycles of barbarism.”

Right. And history is also teeming with examples of bureau—crap-acies that mire them and eat away at the foundation to complete destruction. The Ming Dynasty. Manchu Dynasty. Rome. The Byazntine Empire. The Sumerians too. I’m sure there are more. I would hazard to guess — ancient Egypt as well.


1,974 posted on 11/09/2012 9:55:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“I voted for Goode.”

I live in Goode’s district and did not see a SINGLE SIGN for him. Good grief. I bet Obama operatives campaigned for him. ‘Good’ job!


1,975 posted on 11/09/2012 9:57:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; Impy

“Had you people not shoved RMoney down our throats ...”

Hey, JC — I supported the ANTI-Romney every single time. I said I’d vote for Herman Cain even if he was guilty of rape. Then I supported Santorum even though he’s a lousy campaigner.

I hadn’t fallen for ticket-splitters for a long long time now, not since I’ve gone online. But I tell you what — if the GOP supports amnesty, I’ll seriously consider supporting a start-up party.


1,976 posted on 11/09/2012 10:02:22 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

What amnesty is to you, Romneycare and Obamacare is to me. Romney’s support for publicly funded abortion and contraception was a deal breaker.


1,977 posted on 11/09/2012 10:40:36 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
The sooner we get this over with, the better.

We are talking about not only our children's future, but the world our grandchildren will inherit.

I am very afraid that my grandchildren’s children will be living under Sharia Law. I cry for them.
I should have been able to do something to prevent this, and I feel very guilty about it.
*sigh*

1,978 posted on 11/09/2012 5:05:34 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan

I can’t blame 20 something’s for being immature and idealistic. The human brain doesn’t fully develop until 29.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443713704577601532208760746.html

Delayed Development: 20-Somethings Blame the Brain - WSJ.com

Many parents of 20-somethings worry that their offspring haven’t yet found a career path, gotten married or become financially independent.

These parents should chill out, experts say.

Recent research into how the brain develops suggests that people are better equipped to make major life decisions in their late 20s than earlier in the decade. The brain, once thought to be fully grown after puberty, is still evolving into its adult shape well into a person’s third decade, pruning away unused connections and strengthening those that remain, scientists say.

“Until very recently, we had to make some pretty important life decisions about education and career paths, who to marry and whether to go into the military at a time when parts of our brains weren’t optimal yet,” says neuroscientist Jay Giedd at the National Institute of Mental Health, whose brain-imaging studies of thousands of young people have yielded many of the new insights. Postponing those decisions makes sense biologically, he says. “It’s a good thing that the 20s are becoming a time for self-discovery.”

Such findings are part of a new wave of research into “emerging adulthood,” the years roughly from 18 to 29, which psychologists, sociologists and neuroscientists increasingly see as a distinct life stage. The gap between adolescence and full adulthood is becoming ever wider as more young people willingly or because of economic necessity prolong their education and postpone traditional adult responsibilities. As recently as the 1960s, the average age of first marriage for women in the U.S. was 20, and men 22. Today, the average is 26 for women and 28 for men.

JUST THANK THEM FOR VOTING TO BANKRUPT THEMSELVES SO MOM DAD GRANDPA GRANDMA AND THRIR UNCLES AND AUNTS CAN KEEP GETTING A CHECK AND CHEAP HEALTHCARE!

They are very generous and unselfish sacrificing themselves for their elders. Thank a liberal college student when you see them.


1,979 posted on 11/09/2012 6:17:01 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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Another sign that the framers US Constitution were guided by the hand of divine intervention. They set a minimum age for POTUS at 35 hundreds of years before brain imaging was possible.


1,980 posted on 11/09/2012 6:56:40 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Another sign that the framers US Constitution were guided by the hand of divine intervention.

They set a minimum age for POTUS at 35, hundreds of years before brain imaging was possible.

Bump!

1,981 posted on 11/13/2012 4:53:21 PM PST by fanfan ("But if Muslims were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan

It’s the old saying...

“If you are not a liberal at 18, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 30, you have no brain.”

The chilruns voted for Santa Claus. Who wouldn’t?

In a few years they will be crying when they find out it doesn’t exist.


1,982 posted on 11/13/2012 6:25:22 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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