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Boehner lays down a marker on taxes (Obama's already a 4 year Lame Duck)
cnn ^ | 11/6/2012 | Deirdre Walsh

Posted on 11/06/2012 8:49:59 PM PST by tobyhill

Shortly after multiple networks projected that Republicans would retain control of the House, Speaker John Boehner took to the stage with a message that looked ahead to the battle over the fiscal cliff - the GOP isn't budging on taxes.

"With this vote, the American people have also made clear that there is no mandate for raising tax rates," Boehner told supporters at the Ronald Reagan building in Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


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1 posted on 11/06/2012 8:50:02 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Boehner still thinks he’s relevant and that the Republic lives. O will just rule by E.O. Who needs congress?


2 posted on 11/06/2012 8:51:45 PM PST by Blogger
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To: tobyhill
That's right!

Not to worry the Republicans gained greater control over the House of Representatives! They will thwart every move by Obama to redefine America and discard our Constitution!

3 posted on 11/06/2012 8:52:46 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tobyhill
"With this vote, the American people have also made clear that there is no mandate for raising tax rates,"

..."unless, of course, President Obama has other ideas, in which case I'll fold in a flash. Oh, damn! This is all so hard....Does anyone have a tissue?"

4 posted on 11/06/2012 8:53:43 PM PST by kevao (Hey, Obama: The 1930s called, they want their economic policy back.)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t think he’ll do a damn thing.


5 posted on 11/06/2012 8:54:23 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Blogger

I’m sure we’re going to be talking much more about John Boehner in the next two years. I’m looking forward to those conversations. oh yes.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 8:56:02 PM PST by RC one
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

why should he?


7 posted on 11/06/2012 8:56:52 PM PST by RC one
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To: tobyhill

The House is not going to stop this guy.


8 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:10 PM PST by ryan71
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To: tobyhill

If the House doesn’t budge, Obama will ignore them and issue executive orders.

If Boehner folds like an accordion, which is what he’ll probably do, the legislation gets passed.

Either way, Obama gets what he wants.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:39 PM PST by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: tobyhill

Always a tough talker.

But always gives in when the chips are down.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 8:57:55 PM PST by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, right Bonehead. The GOP house will be running in two years and His Excellency will take the next two years to blame everyone who does not go along with his ideas as the reason for the coming failures. Frankly Mr. bottle tan looked a bit wilted even though he will pick up a few house seats. Bottom line, where the real damage will be done, from the Oval office and a complicit and stronger Dem Senate, just waiting for a few more supreme ct appointments for the final nails, it is over. His speech kind of reminds me of a guy at the end of the football game after his team lost pointing to the stats and saying but we outgained you in the yardage. Scoreboard is all that counts and right now, we are 0 for 2, to a socialist anti Christ no less. BTW, I hope bonehead noticed that two virtual commies, one in Wisconsin and one in Massachusettes won terms in the Senate. Say goodnight Gracie.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 8:58:12 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: tobyhill

I doubt Obama will ask for tax hikes.

He’ll probably just use executive orders.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:01 PM PST by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: tobyhill

FU Boehner...

And Rove is on prevaricating about “What might have been more appropriate timing in calling the race”.

FU you fat slob. It’s over...


13 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:05 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tobyhill

Oh please....One stern look from Obama...Boehner will start crying and get rolled.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 8:59:32 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: Cato in PA
Obama can't Executive Order the debt ceiling or any type of funding.
15 posted on 11/06/2012 9:00:35 PM PST by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: Vendome

We need to primary every RINO in Congress starting with Boehner.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:15 PM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: tobyhill

Oh, boy! Boehner’s on the job.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:37 PM PST by onedoug
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To: tobyhill

I am actually feeling like we should give this commie everything he wants, and let the system collapse. We aren’t that far.


18 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:40 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Now I want to cry just like Bohner, superficially like him but for a different reason, this is the end of the republic and the beginnings of an empire...


19 posted on 11/06/2012 9:01:48 PM PST by GraceG
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To: tobyhill

John Boehner is part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

As is the entire GOP-E that is culpable for enabling the mess that the Democrat Party has made out of this country.

Yet the GOP-E, enabled by the votes of conservatives who were once again persuaded to ‘vote for the R’, remains as entrenched as ever.

Divorce is the only solution. We need a conservative party.


20 posted on 11/06/2012 9:02:58 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: RC one

Considering he is the head of the majority party in the HoR, he should work his ass off to institute the values of such party and its voters instead of working hand-in-hand with Obama.


21 posted on 11/06/2012 9:05:02 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: tobyhill

First of all: There are no final victories and ni final defeats. There is only what you make of tomorrow.

Now, as far as the House goes. Thanks God for these guys. Stop picking on Boehner. Obama basically has zero mandate because of his vote total and because of his small-ball campaign. Witht that said, a negotiation of some kind needs to take place because it has to. Raising taxes on the rich is a stupid idea only because it accompishes nothing in terms of handling the debt. But, it’s negotiable if and only if we can get what we want in return. This is how it works guys.

The real problem is Obama has no plan as to how he’s going to pay for all this utopian spending. He really shold have passed it when he put all of his silly laws in place to begin with. Now, he’s got to go beg the GOP house for compromise. It’s unclear how he gets things done with all the fiscal stuff hanging over his head.

We’re in for a pretty rocky stretch.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 9:06:19 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Cato in PA
Give it a rest.

The House controls ALL spending.

Cheers!

23 posted on 11/06/2012 9:08:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: tobyhill

Get Boner out of the speakers post!

Vote in NEWT!!! Let’s at least have a bit o fun.

(Newt does not have to be a member to serve as speaker)


24 posted on 11/06/2012 9:08:48 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

I think he’s doing just fine.


25 posted on 11/06/2012 9:09:00 PM PST by RC one
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To: ilgipper
I am actually feeling like we should give this commie everything he wants, and let the system collapse. We aren’t that far.

Despite the pain and suffering, that is probably what is needed to wake some of our brain dead fellow citizens.

26 posted on 11/06/2012 9:10:42 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Mustangman

Well this may be a final defeat, see Ginsberg is 79, Kennedy & Scalia are 76, Breyer is 73.

Obama may get to appoint 2-4 USSC justices. IF Obama replaces Scalia and Kennedy with 2 of his fascist we are cooked.


27 posted on 11/06/2012 9:11:41 PM PST by Leto
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To: Mustangman
Agree with you. Picking on Boehner is ridiculous at this time, especially since he is taking the right stance here.

Boehner needs our prayers, not our ridicule.

28 posted on 11/06/2012 9:12:39 PM PST by what's up
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To: tobyhill
Mister Boehner's FOOL'S BET gave our precious military a 500 Bil cut.

He has NO business remaining as SOH.

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29 posted on 11/06/2012 9:12:52 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: tobyhill

I just dont care what that crybaby has to say.Just another rino.


30 posted on 11/06/2012 9:14:18 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Cato in PA

He will pass whatever budget the Dems want to avoid the terror of having the public throw him out of office for shutting down the government!

The power of the purse is merely the power to hold the purse open so they can also clean out the small change.


31 posted on 11/06/2012 9:16:18 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: tobyhill

I don’t know why people are down on the Speaker of the House. Frankly, Boehner and the House GOP are the only branch of the national GOP that has its act together.


32 posted on 11/06/2012 9:16:31 PM PST by goodolemr
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To: what's up

Boner always takes the right stances...he just never performs.

The fear of losing power is strong in this one, as it is in his colleagues.


33 posted on 11/06/2012 9:18:22 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Change? What change? All America has left in its purse is a couple of kleenex and maybe a piece of stale candy.


34 posted on 11/06/2012 9:21:28 PM PST by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: tobyhill

Boehner is a feckless political hack. He isn’t going to stand firm on anything. The House could have thwarted Obama 2 years ago but they caved. They agreed to the financial package which included sequestration. Obama will now let it go through and gut our military.

The minute Obama goes on TV and says if the GOP does not raise the debt ceiling he’s not sure if the SS checks will go out Boehner will cave as usual. They always have and they always will. Only Newt Gingrich ever stood firm and look what happened to him.

Everyone better be making plans as to where they plan to hunker down when the SHTF in about 6-12 months and we go over the fiscal cliff. It will probably spark a civil war.


35 posted on 11/06/2012 9:24:31 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Boehner gets bills passed.

If the Senate doesn't act, there's not much more to be done.

36 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: goodolemr

You don’t think that Boner’s leadership role in the one part of one branch of the government Republicans control has anything to do with the outcome of what should have been a slam dunk?

What did the house do of any importance to stop Obama? They allowed them to never have to pass a budget because of an agreement he reached.

What would have been the outcome if the Senate and Obama were forced to justify a national debt of $16,000,000,000.000.00? Do you think that the public may have asked a few questions if the Republicans had done anything other than issue some tepid and unseen press releases? Instead, no one has to talk about math.

This man, like the entire GOP establishment, bears the responsibility for the outcome of this election. They picked the candidate. They picked the strategy, they picked the battles to fight (none), and they attacked conservatives who pointed this out.

That’s why we attack Boner - he pretends to lead and then does not lead.


37 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:35 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: tobyhill

There will be higher taxes. Why? Because to avoid disaster both sides have to compromise. We need to lose Boehner and all the establishment with him.


38 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:56 PM PST by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

He will waffle.


39 posted on 11/06/2012 9:28:24 PM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: tobyhill
the GOP isn't budging on taxes.

It doesn't have to budge. The law right now is that taxes go up in 55 days. Obama will try to brow beat Boehner into dropping taxes on lower income people while keeping taxes high on those with higher income. I say screw that. Let everyone go over the fiscal cliff.

40 posted on 11/06/2012 9:31:21 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: tobyhill

Boehner feels bad about the loss of an election. I need a way to avert the loss of our nation. B Hussein *hates* us and our America, and the “legislation” he pushed through congress during his first two years will concentrate all power, first in the executive branch, and then in the oval office. Impeachment? Not with dingy Harry still running the senate. “Inherent contempt” of congress? Could he step on any bothersome US Representatives without reprisal? Dunno.


41 posted on 11/06/2012 9:35:34 PM PST by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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To: Mustangman
The real problem is Obama has no plan as to how he’s going to pay for all this utopian spending.

Nothing really changed in this election except for a couple of states. Now we know when a RINO performs well, he still falls short. If they nominate a third RINO in a row, they will deserve what happens.

The main problem is, as you have illustrated, we cannot continue trillion dollar deficits. And Obama cannot stop the spending. And any tax increases in this weak economy will be non-productive. They will not produce more then they destroy, since businesses are just hanging by a thread. So economic collapse is more or less assured, especially when you factor in the middle east mess.

42 posted on 11/06/2012 9:37:48 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: tobyhill

Yes he can. The legislation is in Obamacare, tucked in quiet corners where very few have looked.


43 posted on 11/06/2012 9:39:40 PM PST by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Boehner should go scorch earth and let ALL the tax cuts expire. The idiot Middle-Class that voted for Obama needs to pay a price.
44 posted on 11/06/2012 9:40:06 PM PST by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: gotribe

“There will be higher taxes. Why? Because to avoid disaster both sides have to compromise. We need to lose Boehner and all the establishment with him.”

Really? And higher taxes mean more revenue, right?

You’ve been here since when? 05? And all this time you still believe that higher taxes are a good thing? Well, what tax rates do YOU think might be high enough. 90% top rate? Sounds good to me. Oh heck. Let’s compromise and make it 85%!

Good God I’m surrounded by idiots. Not you of course. You’re just “misguided”


45 posted on 11/06/2012 9:43:49 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: GraceG
When the last republic came to an end and went the Empire route, I don't think they had this kind of debt baggage that we now have which still lasted for a few more centuries. In other words, it's going to be a very short and painful empire.
46 posted on 11/06/2012 9:45:28 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Cato in PA

It’s a scripted deal. Sequestration will be delayed until the end of March (several Senators hinted that they’d agree on that part, and the House will accept a one-time delay).

But one has to be fairly confident that there’s no compromise that can be laid out and a massive cut will come in April/May of 2013. Expect 100k government workers in the DC region to be laid off, and never hired again.

Chances of an accepted budget by the House and Senate for 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016? Zero. The business community will just sit back and watch this...with no real thrills about better economic times.

It’s like a WWE-wrestling schedule....all drawn out and comical in nature.


47 posted on 11/06/2012 9:55:21 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: DarkWaters
In other words, it's going to be a very short and painful empire.

As well it should be.

Unfortunately however, the perfect environment for WWIII with Iran going nuclear.

48 posted on 11/06/2012 10:01:56 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: tobyhill

re: Obama can’t Executive Order the debt ceiling or any type of funding.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Who will stop him?


49 posted on 11/06/2012 10:03:45 PM PST by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: doug from upland

Remove the “castriani”
and give us a leader with ‘cajones’

The republicna leadership leaves much to be desired !!


50 posted on 11/06/2012 10:09:35 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (God created Whiskey ( the waters of life) so that the Irish wouldn't take ove the world !)
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