Skip to comments.THE GOP DIED LAST NIGHT
Posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:23 AM PST by shortstop
The Republican Party died last night.
Somewhere in the suburbs of Cleveland, on the shore of Lake Erie, in the decisions of some suburban voters, the Republican Party stopped being a nationally viable political organization.
Oh, it will continue to exist.
But it will likely never again truly contest for the presidency. The nation has changed, the values have been replaced, the demographics are different.
The demographics are insurmountable.
Last night was a tipping point, a dance on a razors edge, and it went the other way. What was undoable last night will become increasingly impossible with each passing year. The margins will grow, the base will shrink, the tide will turn and the day will pass.
The Republican Party died last night.
Oh, it will continue to exist.
There will be the name and the elephants, but nationally, conservatism is playing against an impossibly stacked deck.
The nation had a clear choice. Each party ran candidates who were true to type. The Republicans ran conservatives and the Democrats ran liberals and it was a rout. Nothing changed except that Republicans got rebuffed across the board.
America wants Democrat.
More specifically, America wants liberal. It wants an activist, empowered government, imposing fairness and supporting entitlement.
Thats what America wants.
At least half of it wants that. Half and a tiny bit more.
And the inexorably shifting demographics of the nation ensure that that tiny bit more will grow steadily, cementing the liberal majority and creating an electoral impossibility of replacing it.
Last night was the last chance.
It was the last chance to gain a last national electoral victory over the Democratic coalition Latinos, blacks, gays, feminists, trade unionists, government employees and welfare beneficiaries. The last chance to let a Republican president advocate the conservative, constitutional principles upon which American society was built.
But America said, No, thanks.
The majority preferred more of the last four years to anything Mitt Romney and the Republicans were offering.
The constituent communities of that majority are only going to grow in size and prominence in American society. They are going to increasingly dominate our society and politics.
Four years from now, more of the older conservative voters will be dead, and more of the younger liberal voters will be registered to vote. The Latino community, essentially co-opted by the Democrats into an aggrieved permanent minority status, will, like black voters, be larger and more Democrat. Four years from now, the cultural shift away from traditional values will be more advanced, thanks to more brainwashing by school teachers and sitcoms.
Those members of our society who typically identify with the Democratic Party are increasing. Those members of our society who typically identify with the Republican Party are shrinking.
You do the math.
Certain, Republicans will keep running. And some of them, no doubt, will win. But they will be a different sort of Republican.
They will not be conservative. Certainly not socially or morally conservative.
They will bend over backwards to avoid the principles of moral conservatism, so as to not disrespect a social norm.
They will be Democrat-lite.
Or they will not win.
Last night was our best chance.
And America chose the other team.
Almost $3 billion was spent on the presidential campaign. Untold tens of millions of dollars were spent on congressional campaigns across the country. And nothing changed.
Obama is still in the White House. The Democrats still control the Senate. Republicans still control the House of Representatives. The pundits say America voted to break the grid lock, that it voted to demand team work. It did no such thing. It voted to maintain the status quo.
So we have gone on a long, painful and expensive national journey, and it has left us exactly where we started.
A couple of House seats this way, a couple of Senate seats that way, and Obama on top of the whole thing.
That isnt change, that is business as usual.
Conservatism has become a regional philosophy, the Republican Party a regional party. It will win governorships, it will win seats in the House or Senate, but it will essentially be a phenomenon of the South and Midwest.
Where traditional values endure and dwindle, the Republican Party will still be relevant.
But those places will shrink and shrivel. And each year, the gap between those who support conservatism and the number needed to win a national victory will grow.
Last night was conservatisms last stand.
And it lost.
The Republican Party died last night.
Obama (his campaign, even— not a PAC) ran non-stop Richard Mourdock-Mitt Romney radio ads about abortion and rape. It killed the GOP here.
Last night’s award for “ON THE HEAD IN FEWEST WORDS” went to Advil1000.
Today’s goes to you for this EXCELLENT and CONCISE wrap up of what happened last night.
I was hoping that the PRODUCER segment of the US Society being relentlessly converted to CONSUMERS had not yet reached 50% + epsilon. (epsilon being any amount, even infintesimally, larger than zero)
Sadly, it has happened. The balance has tipped, nevermore to tip back.
Only more and more slugs will elbow their way to the public trough during the next four years, ensuring that by 2016, NOTHING recognizable about this Once Great Nation will
remain but it’s carcass, picked clean by the GIMMEEs.
Actually, my gut has been telling me this since the news reports started to appear that the slugs whose unemployment had finally run out had figured out how to collect disability (for the rest of their lives) instead.
Where were they when it REALLY counted?
As I asked in the past - just EXACTLY what wonders did the cadre of TP promoted congresscritters manage to accomplish since their anointments in DC??????
What happened to the TP Chapter in Arizona that started Arpaio investigating OB’s background?????????
(...................... sound of crickets..................)
Give it up, SCP.
It’s time to face reality - this country is beyond the tipping point. A majority of Americans want free stuff more than they want freedom, and we have a crop of youngsters coming up who love abortion and gay marriage, and are going to vote for people pushing it, even when it’s against their own real self-interest to do so.
It’s time for us to face facts - America is under God’s judgment, and He’s giving our people what they want, though they’re not going to like it when they have to pay the piper.
Do we really believe that America is so special that we’ll escape the judgment that has been meted out to other nations throughout history?
Mitt Romney was a symptom - but ultimately, he’s not the cause for blame. WE are. WE fat, lazy, talking like we love the Bible when we really don’t American “Christians” who want a soft spirituality that makes no demands on us, that we can do on Sunday and live the rest of the week as we like. It’s time that judgment begins at the house of God.
Fascinating, thank you, I find it strange how Ariel Sharon sleeps through such change, it’s been 7 years since he fell into a coma, Rabbi Kaduri predicted the messiah would return after Ariel dies. We are living in Strange times, Obama is an enigma.
The Republican party is filled with dem-lite, socialist-lite panderers and compromisers. At this point, even a Republican victory would be meaningless.
Re Libs & Their Long Game - Indeed, it has been a long, arduous campaign, but the blueprints were drawn up decades ago and the organization just ground along inch by inch.
My first exposure to this nefarious operation was at the age of 16 as an LEGAL immigrant from Canada, watching the Goldwater massacre.
Then in high school my first boss lent me a copy of “Rythym, Riots & Revolution” which was a REAL eye opener.
Followed the JBS for awhile too.
By the time that MTV first appeared on the scene, I told everyone within the sound of my voice that it was a destructive and evil influence on the youts of the world, mine included. It’s disgusting programming motivated me to install a power lock on our TV at the time. Unfortunately, the material was available at all the other homes in “progressive”, “diverse” and “politically correct” Irvine.
At the same time, I was watching the germination of the first wave of inept/immature/incompetent/co-opted batch of K-12 indoctrinators begin to work their program on the minds of US children.
TWO BIGGEST mistakes of my life:
(1) Not having wife be At Home Mom instead of Working Mom.
(2) Not doing whatever it took to place our kids in private school.
However, your view that “we (can) create new voters that understand freedom and individual responsibility” is wishful thinking, because of my last two points above.
The timer bell has dinged - The USA as we knew it for a couple hundred years is DONE.
OB’s People will now chow down until all that is left is a carcass.
Well said and Amen.
Been saying this for the last several years.
But few are listening or even willing to consider it.
Like Liberal Americans who want their free stuff - American Christians bought the lies and revel in the lies, that made their faith exactly as scripture said it would become in the latter days: lukewarm.
Or as II Timothy 3 states - ‘having the form of religion - but having no power’.
Remember, Jesus warned us in Matthew 24, that when iniquity abounds, the love of many (He’s speaking to the church) - will grow cold. That we will hate and betray one another.
I believe we have arrived at that point, and God’s Judgment - giving an entire nation over to it’s debased mind - is the fruit of what we see happening around us.
All I would add to your post is that Romney is what pushed us over the cliff. While he personally may not be to blame, his philosophy, which is the product of a morally bankrupt party leadership, most certainly is.
That does not mean that conservative principles are wrong, or that we shouldn't hold to them. We simply have to realize that the political climate of the country has tilted leftward and is now left of center, and this has been coming for at least a generation, maybe more. The problem is not conservatism, or the GOP, or any particular candidate our side may wish to run, the problem is that we have a country whose voting majority no longer believes in the things we believe in, the things the Founders believed in, the things that built this country from a wilderness to the most prosperous society the world has ever seen. Barack Obama didn't simply walk into the Presidency one day. People voted to put him there. He is simply the result of what has happened to our country over the last generation or two that has come of age and is now voting in elections. What will it take to change this? A country, just like a person locked in a downward spiral of decadence and personal destruction, often has to hit bottom before they can crawl back up. My guess is that a general collapse and rebirth will be what it takes. Whether or not the country holds together as a federal Republic or breaks up into autonomous states remains to be seen.
Thanks for the ping. Very well said. I think the saddest thing of all is this could have been prevented if the GOP took a stand, but instead we are like the battered girlfriend or rape victim who dates her attacker over and over.
I’m tired of dating my rapist (the GOP).
We need to fight, not just roll over.
Houston elected a lesbian mayor, Dallas a lesbian sheriff, and the four largest cities all went Obama.
I’m sorry folks, but the problem is not so much the candidates, as it is the change in our culture. People have changed. They don’t want to be self-sufficient. They want to get money for nothing cheese for free. We live in a country where half of the voting population believes in and supports socialism.
Today it's a gimme nation.
The GOP was on life support.
Last night, someone used the “Do Not Resuscitate” order and pulled the plug.
Pat Buchanan predicted this in one of his books, maybe State of Emergency. It played out just about how he said.
The Takers won. The producers lost.
No time to cry over spilt milk. Take care of yourself and watch the GOP held congress cave in on every demand.
The GOP died when Reagan left office, and this country is dead to me.
Me, last night was just one liberal losing to another liberal. The real loss was a death of a thousand cuts during the Republican Primary.
Nice advice, but who the hell has the money to do that? I don't.
After the nomination we lose big time if we turn to “NO VOTES” and irrevelant parties, we remove ourselves from the fight. I will continue to work to get Conservatives nominated, if I fail at that I won’t withdraw from the field but will work to defeat democrats and that will not be accomplished by ceding the elections to democrats of any ilk but working within the party that has a chance to beat them.
American ideals have become diluted by the influx of too many foreigners with foreign ideas and they have not assimilated. For example, too many Latinos still think like Mexicans instead of Americans, and the Republican Party can never do anything to appeal to them and retain Republican ideals. Until this country crashes and burns, some people will never learn, and some will never learn ever.
Pure nonsense. How do you explain the 50% out of wedlock birthrates for Hispanics? Or the high school drop out rate? There seems to be some idealized view by some in the GOP that although Hispanics vote two to one against Reps, there is really a "pony in there" in terms of conservatism. The fact is that most are natural Dem constituents and they vote their own self interest.
Table 6 reports welfare use based on the legal status of the household head. The estimates show that 51.8 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one major welfare program in 2009. For households with children headed by an illegal immigrant, 71 percent are estimated to use at least one program.
Why do we continue to bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants every year while we have 23 million Americans looking for full-time employment? Take a look at the chart below and tell me why the decade that ended in 2010 was the highest in our history in terms of immigration while we had a net loss of jobs? We have 40 million foreign born in this country.
Finally, there is no such thing as an Hispanic. It is an artificially contrived victim group pushed by the Dems so they can provide them with such things as affirmative action and minority business set asides. 54% of Hispanics self-describe themselves as white.
There is nothing we can do to reach out to Hispanics that would be different than our appeal to everyone else. It is not the failure to convey our message, but rather, a failure to understand why they choose to be Democrats. We need to limit our immigration numbers and to go from a kinship system to a merit based system.
"America" is lost.
There is simply not enough time left to rebuild our historic moral and cultural foundations before an absolute American tyranny takes full control. What follows, starting now, will be a unrelenting, uncontrollable (by law, reason, or the shredded Constitution) vector rapidly descending our system into an oppressive political, economic, and social environment which is not an environment conductive for peaceful change.
In fact, one could make a convincing argument that it was Satan who won America last night. What Obama and the Liberal winners stand for and won on is contrary to every single one of the Ten Commandments. Read them, and consider..
1. Do not worship any other gods besides me.
2. Do not make idols of any kind
4. Remember to observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy
5. Honor your father and mother
6. Do not murder.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not testify falsely against your neighbor.
10. Do not covet... anything... your neighbor owns.
Frankly, the converse of the above essentially comprises the platform of their political, cultural, and social agenda.
Defeatist? No, it is more like being realistic and understanding what has just happened. We lost the most important election of our lifetime. Obamacare will be fully implemented thus allowing the government total control over healthcare that will lead to a single payer system. Obamacare is another entitlement program that will just hasten the bankruptcy of this country that is already being bankrupted by SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. Obamacare will add 18 million to Medicaid's 60 million. We have 47 million on food stamps.
And Obama will be adding new justices to SCOTUS that will undermine our constitutional protections. Obama will continue with his executive orders circumventing Congress and strangling our economy.
We need to come to grips with what has happened. Putting on a happy face won't change the facts and the terrible consequences for our country that will be almost impossible to reverse. Obama has transformed America as promised. His election is proof positive that it has already occurred.
America wants Liberalism, at least the fantasy kind, where Kennedys and Martin Luther Kings righteously strive for equality all over the place, as long as these voting American’s don’t have to change or give up anything.
America wants government largesse, as long as their taxes don’t go up.
America wants jobs, jobs, jobs, as long as they don’t have to work.
America wants equality, as long as they get their perks, and those Wall Street types get sent to prison.
America wants a lot of things, but they are not going to like what they will really get.
So, you solution is to cry and whine ?
I’m in southern Arizona. I drive thru western Tucson regularly. I’m not blind to the problems in the Hispanic community - which in Tucson is mostly a Mexican immigrant community.
But I’m also not blind to values of hard work and family, both of which are also very evident. Those values can be used to TEACH conservatism.
Mexicans come from Mexican culture, and in Mexico, hard work alone won’t get you far because the rich WILL oppress you. At some level, they understand America has opportunity, but they don’t understand how much opportunity. We need to connect with them that education is an important part of getting ahead, and that they don’t need to settle for less because there aren’t any rich racists here to oppress them.
I’m not claiming this is a crop waiting to be harvested, and certainly not by pandering to illegal immigration and just putting a hispanic on the ticket. It means looking at what common ground we share, and then building on it.
But if you want to just ignore them, you’ll get your butt handed to you - like we did this time. And it will only get worse unless we do something. It won’t cut it to sit on our butts and moan that whites no longer dominate our country. Like it or not, we don’t - and never will again. Dreaming of 1950 isn’t going to make it better.
Is your solution when presented with reality is to call everyone who comprehends the import of what happened a pansy?
I am not crying or whining. However, I am very sad that this great nation is entering a long period of decline that will undo the efforts of our Founders and the many others who sacrificed to make this country the greatest nation on earth and the hope of mankind. We will no longer be the exceptional nation.
We can fight the good fight trying to block and delay the inevitable. It will be a rearguard action at the state and local level. But given the changing demography of this country fueled by immigration, legal and illegal, and the culture of dependency that is reinforced by our educational system and the MSM, it will be a losing struggle. This nation will not recover from Obama and his transformation. We will no longer be the same nation or the same people.
We deserve the government we get, but our children and grandchildren don't. We have failed them. "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind."
Are you denying the data about welfare use by both legal and illegal immigrants, particularly Mexicans? 71% of LEGAL Mexican immigrants are on at least one major welfare program. Can we also teach conservatism to blacks? We have been trying that for a very long time. It doesn't work because it goes against their perceived self-interest. The Dems are the party of free stuff and they will continue to attract minorities to their side. Each year we infuse those numbers by more than million new soon to be Democrats thru our legal immigration system.
25% of adult immigrants entering this country annually lack even a high school degree. We are importing hundreds of thousands of high school drop outs each year along with poverty that is draining our welfare programs.
But if you want to just ignore them, youll get your butt handed to you - like we did this time. And it will only get worse unless we do something. It wont cut it to sit on our butts and moan that whites no longer dominate our country. Like it or not, we dont - and never will again. Dreaming of 1950 isnt going to make it better.
Why should we accept it as inevitable? We have control over our legal immigration programs in terms of numbers and the kinds of people we bring in? Why can't we reduce the number of legal immigrants that enter each year and go to a merit based system? Why can't we secure our borders and do a better job of tracking down and deporting visa overstays that make up 40% of the illegal population? Why can't we have an employment verification system that prevents illegal aliens from taking American jobs (8 million at last count)? Why can't we require a voter ID system that prevents voter fraud? Why can't we enforce our immigration laws, including against sanctuary states and localities?
You seem to believe that when rape is inevitable, we should just lean back and enjoy it. We can actually do something about it, but our politicians lack the courage to do something. Instead, now we must figure out a way to reach out to a growing segment of our population that the Federal government is helping to grow faster. States like AZ and AL are being sued by the federal government for enforcing immigration laws that mirror federal laws. You can expect far worse in Obama's second term. And like his backdoor amnesty that gives legal status and work permits for 1.8 million illegals up to the age of 30, you can bet that Obama will circumvent Congress and do whatever he wants on this issue.
So, you solution is to cry and whine ?
NO IT’S CRY AND WINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are all sad, I just see too many here giving up.
I want to go steal Michael Moore’s millions. Who’s with me?
I don't think the demographics and the moral structure of our society will allow another Republican to gain the presidency.
All that was consider moral will now be classified as 'Hate Speech'. It's over. America is dead.
The GOP is no longer the vehicle to push the United States toward free markets and free minds.
One peaceful and legal way remains. Despite what the new Lincoln movie will probably preach, the Constitution allowed the sovereign states to be free from the tyranny of the Federal govt.
Peaceful? It sure wasn't peaceful the last time. What state's government has the resources to defend itself from the Feds?
And, even if the Feds didn't want to fight about it, what would stop the Feds from just selling the state to a foreign country? Do you think that Obama might be willing to sell Texas to the Chinese if he had an excuse?
Think about that. Seriously. Obama's capable of just about anything.
As long as the government provides a safety net (funded by the Evil Rich) yes, that is all that matters. This is why I always say that liberals are not evil, they are simply not adults. They are 14, every one of them. If there is food on the table for the foreseeable future, a mall to roam in, and the scent of a mating opportunity in the air, well... what more could one want?
I heard alot of people hammering Romney today about failing to make Benghazi more of an issue.
I agree with that, but one thing I always thought made him extremely vulnerable was Romneycare.
Any other candidate could have spent alot of time dissecting the evil that lies in Obamacare - but Romney couldn’t go anywhere near it.
When it came up, he had to try to praise what he did in Mass while simultaneously criticize the ACA.
But...maybe I’m just dreaming.
I truly am stunned at the amazing number of extremely stupid people out there.
I knew there were alot of morons - I just didn’t know we were already outnumbered.
It’s possible alot of these people haven’t given this issue a passing thought.
While there is serious soul-searching to do, this election was very much like the 1948 elections, where Truman won by a few percentage points. The Republicans came back to win the next 2 presidential elections.
“The socialists have a firm grip on the mechanics of our government and are loading up their base for all future elections.”
Obama had a biased media, hollywood, academic elites and a billion dollar campaign PLUS billions in stimulus graft to grease his way to re-election.
What he lacked was a good record.
Yes, it can be peaceful. In the end, maybe not.
Unfortunately, this is never even considered as a lawful option. Barely a whisper.
And you’ll be standing proudly in the irrevelance of your “NO VOTE” or reveling with your 3rd party that you made .95% mark, lots of progress, while leaving it to others to work at un-stopping the sewer. My plan is and always has been to work within the GOP and their primaries with the hope of being heard and making a difference. I haven’t seen a plan that appears to be anywhere as effective even though I cannot claim to have acheived any of my goals. Other than standing on the sidelines and withdrawing from the field because you don’t like the quaterback I don’t believe you actually have a plan or can make a case for one that is as good as mine. What I see is you do nothing but stand on the sidelines and disparage those who are actually working to un-stop the sewer.
I would be shamed to admit to anyone I didn’t vote against obama and I could never justify a vote for a third party knowing that they would never win and knowing that at least most of their votes would have gone to someone who had a chance to beat him and a “NO VOTE” is absolutly ceding the field. I’m not going to get into Romney was not my firsrt choice, you know my posting record, at least I supported a fiscal Conservative for the nomination. I am satisfied with my efforts and decisions in this campaign dispite my disappointment in the outcome, I hope you can say the same.
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