Skip to comments.THE GOP DIED LAST NIGHT
Posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:23 AM PST by shortstop
The Republican Party died last night.
Somewhere in the suburbs of Cleveland, on the shore of Lake Erie, in the decisions of some suburban voters, the Republican Party stopped being a nationally viable political organization.
Oh, it will continue to exist.
But it will likely never again truly contest for the presidency. The nation has changed, the values have been replaced, the demographics are different.
The demographics are insurmountable.
Last night was a tipping point, a dance on a razors edge, and it went the other way. What was undoable last night will become increasingly impossible with each passing year. The margins will grow, the base will shrink, the tide will turn and the day will pass.
The Republican Party died last night.
Oh, it will continue to exist.
There will be the name and the elephants, but nationally, conservatism is playing against an impossibly stacked deck.
The nation had a clear choice. Each party ran candidates who were true to type. The Republicans ran conservatives and the Democrats ran liberals and it was a rout. Nothing changed except that Republicans got rebuffed across the board.
America wants Democrat.
More specifically, America wants liberal. It wants an activist, empowered government, imposing fairness and supporting entitlement.
Thats what America wants.
At least half of it wants that. Half and a tiny bit more.
And the inexorably shifting demographics of the nation ensure that that tiny bit more will grow steadily, cementing the liberal majority and creating an electoral impossibility of replacing it.
Last night was the last chance.
It was the last chance to gain a last national electoral victory over the Democratic coalition Latinos, blacks, gays, feminists, trade unionists, government employees and welfare beneficiaries. The last chance to let a Republican president advocate the conservative, constitutional principles upon which American society was built.
But America said, No, thanks.
The majority preferred more of the last four years to anything Mitt Romney and the Republicans were offering.
The constituent communities of that majority are only going to grow in size and prominence in American society. They are going to increasingly dominate our society and politics.
Four years from now, more of the older conservative voters will be dead, and more of the younger liberal voters will be registered to vote. The Latino community, essentially co-opted by the Democrats into an aggrieved permanent minority status, will, like black voters, be larger and more Democrat. Four years from now, the cultural shift away from traditional values will be more advanced, thanks to more brainwashing by school teachers and sitcoms.
Those members of our society who typically identify with the Democratic Party are increasing. Those members of our society who typically identify with the Republican Party are shrinking.
You do the math.
Certain, Republicans will keep running. And some of them, no doubt, will win. But they will be a different sort of Republican.
They will not be conservative. Certainly not socially or morally conservative.
They will bend over backwards to avoid the principles of moral conservatism, so as to not disrespect a social norm.
They will be Democrat-lite.
Or they will not win.
Last night was our best chance.
And America chose the other team.
Almost $3 billion was spent on the presidential campaign. Untold tens of millions of dollars were spent on congressional campaigns across the country. And nothing changed.
Obama is still in the White House. The Democrats still control the Senate. Republicans still control the House of Representatives. The pundits say America voted to break the grid lock, that it voted to demand team work. It did no such thing. It voted to maintain the status quo.
So we have gone on a long, painful and expensive national journey, and it has left us exactly where we started.
A couple of House seats this way, a couple of Senate seats that way, and Obama on top of the whole thing.
That isnt change, that is business as usual.
Conservatism has become a regional philosophy, the Republican Party a regional party. It will win governorships, it will win seats in the House or Senate, but it will essentially be a phenomenon of the South and Midwest.
Where traditional values endure and dwindle, the Republican Party will still be relevant.
But those places will shrink and shrivel. And each year, the gap between those who support conservatism and the number needed to win a national victory will grow.
Last night was conservatisms last stand.
And it lost.
The Republican Party died last night.
As I look at more data, I have to conclude you are wrong.
Obama fell 15 million votes short of his 2008 totals, but Romney also fell 6 million short of McCain’s totals. I would have guessed that Romney got more votes than McCain, but I would have guessed way wrong.
Here in Arizona, voters overwhelming rejected extending a sales tax increase that was passed a few years back as a temporary measure. It wasn’t close, either - 65/35 split. This time, the “children” lost! Finally!
And a measure to protect someone who shoots a crook passed 80/20.
I wasn’t pro-Romney. I was ABO. And apparently, regardless of what the GOP-E says, that isn’t enough. It was nice to see that Mitt truly loves America, and I’d have voted for him on that basis alone in the end, but that isn’t enough to fire up the republican vote.
It’s not because we’re not conservative enough.
We missed a huge opportunity to bring the Latino vote home during the Bush presidency. We were warned, and we ignored it.
President thanks illegals, moochers, Gov. Chris Christy, other stupid, ignorant and short sighted whites.
I would say tradeable commodities and guns and ammo. Gold will be useless in an economic meltdown. Can't eat it and can't shoot it.
My best years have been lived in a basically decent and "worthy" country.During my declining ones it looks like I'll have to learn Spanish,somehow learn how to become "disabled" and recognize that sodomy is "just another kind of love".And I'll have to learn how to wait six months to see a cancer specialist just like they do in Canada and Britain.
I just thank God that neither Osama Obama,Dirty Harry nor any of their pals will ever have to endure a similar kind of wait.
In a static world, I would tend to agree with this analysis.
However, there are several future wild card variables that are potentially paradigm-shifting; that we cannot predict how they might affect the dynamic in this country:
1. economic collapse
2. war (e.g., Israel attacks Iran; etc.)
Enough of the defeatist attitude around here, what a bunch of pansies - we can survive the next 4 years.
Who would have done better than Romney?
The Tea Party Got It Right, Mitt Got It Wrong-
As long as we pander to a group of People SOLELY ON RACE, we will win.
We can do the welfare state too, except better and cheaper!
I thought we gave the Illegals amnesty back in '86. All that did was create more Democrat voters, we were warned and we ignored it.
The media won.... not even Obama cared that much.
The media needs content to survive and grow and Romney wasn’t going to supply it.
Pain, suffering, confusion all feed the media machine. Even Rush, Sean, etc do much better when the dems are in power.
How about this strategy: I think the Tea Party should join with the dems and take over their agenda...
No more media for me.... I’d rather start smoking again, it was probably healthier.
We’ll survive the GOP won’t. good riddance.
It would have been a bigger blowout if a more conservative had been nominated. Face it — most of the rest of the country does not agree with us. The population has been dumbed down. We passed the tipping point. Those taking benefits outnumber productive citizens. They are not going to give up their benefits.
Buy gold that does not get reported.
Buy firearms that do not need to be reported (this might be very tricky)
If they know about either they will come for it.
Any of his challengers had a better shot than him, I was saying this back in April.... of 2011.
Illegal immigrants will be granted amnesty and be allowed to vote! Criminals will be well treated by the left and allowed to vote! Islam will rule the U.S.! The left will cheat, too, to maintain political power, for the long term! The idea that the GOP and conservatives will be able to, actually, turn things around, soon, is pure fantasy! IT’S OVER FOR THE GOP AND U.S. CONSERVATISM, UNTIL AND UNLESS THERE’S A TOTAL, OFFICIAL COLLAPSE OF EVERYTHING ON THE LEFT’S SIDE! BTW, my longtime tagline continues to ring true.
The democrats have already spent all of everyone elses money. Last I knew, they were printing 4 billion a month to keep the economy alive. Now that Oboma "won", businesses are going to start laying off like crazy because of Obomacare and taxes.
The dollar is disappearing. Eventually, a loaf of bread will cost a days wages, and those welfare cards won't bring in the freebies they used to. The democrats are going to get hungry, but there will be nothing left to steal for them. The scrounging grasshoppers have outnumbered the ants. All the ants can do is prep, and wish the welfare the democrats the best of luck. They'll be on their own.
One half will prosper, the other will starve. If we have conservatives and true Americans at our local and state levels, we will survive and emerge from this crisis better and stronger for it.
We have to change one thing: Our culture of expectation.
First we must transform the media. I am not sure how, but I think Glenn Becks, “The Blaze” is on the right track. The MSM is pretty much responsible for everything we don't like about what has happened to this country. FOX is way to Politically correct. I am not looking for Spin, just pain old truthful facts. That should not be difficult.
The second thing is we must change how we are educating our kids. This one is going to take some time, but is doable.
Lot's of opportunities,and we have 4 years to make a real difference. We must do more than promise a “change” The “change” must be self evident. Not a pipe-dream, but a reality. If we cannot make more than a little progress in the next four years, our promise's are empty
To everyone who says this, how would a conservative taken away the 75% hispanic, and 93+% black vote that went for Obama?
You are kidding yourself thinking that “true” conservative would have won this election. The GOP as we knew it is DONE. Conservative values are not wanted by the majority, therefore you can not win by running on Conservative values.
What is so difficult to understand?
They will never see its fulfillment because the world we live in does not have that long.
The greatest country the world has ever known has voted for theft on a national scale. Looting is now legal.
I’m gonna gets me an Obamacard, and a free Obamaphone. Why fight?? The parasites now outnumber the producers.
Anybody know the way to the Gulch?
From your lips to God's ear.
We need 3 parties:
Ditto, to what you said, but they, all, must be done EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD, too! It’s not enough to focus on, just, U.S. conservatism, when the rest of the world is “stuck” with leftist governments, too! One of the reasons for my tagline.
That was an off-year election. The GOP will continue to have success in off-year elections, when turnout is low. They won’t ever win the presidency again.
“Actually, AMERICA DIED LAST NIGHT!”
America died on Election night, 2006, when the media convinced the sheeple that 4.6% unemployment was “THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION!”.
Last night was just the Post-Mortem.
Perspective please. Romney ran an absolutely awful campaign with 1 spectacular debate that kept him in striking distance.
Many of our Senatorial candidates were has-beens (Tommy Thompson), living in a sea of deep blue (Scott Brown) or just plain morons (Todd Akin).
So when we get past the grieving stage we will have tons of opportunities, starting in 2014, to take back the Senate and put a real Conservative on the ballot for 2016.
We have some awesome governors in the wings (fat man from NJ not withstanding), and after 8the years of this mess we can bury these liberal clowns for good.
Mourn and grieve as expected, and then lets get to taking back our country from these liberal fools.
Just my 2-cents.
Well, there certainly seems to be a good number of crybabies and losers.
“””””Indeed, the financial facts will dictate a new situation. Add in the soon to be nuclear Iranians and many other unforseen problems and it may force obamas hand in directions he never intended. Its not the end of the world. Chin up!”””””””
Myself I look forward to a financial collapse sooner than later. My business is in a twilight zombie half life the last four years with a slow drip,drip of going out of business customers.
Crash it now like Iceland, put the bankers and politicians in jail like they did and the economy bounces back in a year or two and I will have the capital to make a go of it - 5 years from now that might be the case.
The election was fundamentally about the electorate. We get the government we deserve...not WE here, but the American people in general.
Candidates do matter, but would Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich or Rick Perry or Herman Cain or Michele Bachmann etc, etc, etc, done BETTER than Mitt Romney?
Would more women and minorities have voted for our side if you just replaced Mitt with one of the others or even Sarah Palin or someone else who didn’t run?
I see no evidence to support that conclusion. I didn’t support Mitt originally but saw that he put himself into it in a way that was admirable. If people believe that all he had to do was expose the extremist Obama and natter on about Benghanzi and he would’ve won, they’re kidding themselves. THIS electorate would’ve made him lose by even more if he had done so.
I’m fundamentally agreeing with your post.
This nation is starkly divided. An electorate that is starkly divided has tipped toward the dark side. Romney Ryan are too good for this electorate. This American electorate that “won” last night does not deserve to tie the shoelaces of the losing candidates.
If any “sat home” or voted third party because Romney Ryan weren’t pure enough for them, they, too contributed to the downfall of mainstreet conservativism by believing somehow that this “winning” electorate would have voted rock ribbed conservative if only other candidates had been chosen.
If mainstreet conservativism can’t win today, rock ribbed conservatism isn’t going to win, by an even larger margin.
If they feared Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan would take away their contraception, or they voted Obama because of his skin color, or whatever the nitwit excuse, there’s no way a Sarah Palin or another rock ribbed conservative would have done anything but WORSE.
Time to place the GOP into the ashcan of history—Time for a new party—an American Party—a Tea Party. Now the GOP only exists to offer up straw men for the Democrat party to defeat. Who knew that all women want is Abortion and Birth Control Pills? Obama used fear and the media to spin his version of the truth. MSM, Unions, Hollywood, will keep Obama in power forever! Look what they did to the Tea Party? Painted them as racists and marginalized them—Now they are used to paint the Congress as Obstructionist—The new Bush!
How many illegals can we attract with free health care and voting rights?
That is EXACTLY true. Every word. Today’s youth don’t care one whit about wealth accumulation. They are totally fine with just having enough to get by on. They just want to make enough so that they can have their toys.
The GOPe are basically liberal lite. This article is wrong because the voters didnt vote for liberal. They voted for a man they thought was a decent guy, trying to be fair to the poor.
The voters DON’T HAVE A BLEEPING CLUE that Obama is using them to achieve a socialist do over, favoring equal outcomes no matter what for everyone, and a weakening of superpower status. He is am old school communist. The American voters don’t k ow this, and the media have told them its poppycock.
The Repubs ran a moderate who happens to be personally in his own life conservative and religious. The media painted him as a rich, unfeeling homophobe. The media created a completely fake War on Women and fooled all female American that their sex organs and being able to kill babies were the most important thing about them.
The GOP is afraid of conservative principles. They downplay them. They need to go.
We need a constitutional party, more open to Americans of all stripes, while teaching Americans that their stripes don’t matter, unifying all, whether they differ by looks or lifestyle. We need to teach people that living under an economically free, light government except for defense benefits all.
We need to drop all restrictions on personal lifestyles though. If we are Gdfearing, great, make sure we have religious freedom, but we need to win by fact and example. Let libs marry goats if they want. Serious: we need to forget about controlling people according to our desired lifestyle and let goodness win by example.
The worst thing is, demographics being what they are, we can’t get in the door of the White House or senate unless we do (feeling sick) another bleeping amnesty. The American people no longer seem to care about what illegal aliens are doing to our land, I see it and live it and this is a huge issue to me, but somehow we need to allow all the ones here a freaking (choke) pass to citizenship. And then close the f’ing borders.
I’m not sure there is another way.
Denial is the first stage of grief.
America can’t be saved.
Through this entire election, all the right-wing mavens from Will to Barone to Hewitt to Medved, were whistling past the graveyard, all for what? To raise a few bucks for the dying corpse of “conservatism”?
I have a better idea, Mr. and Mrs. White Middle Class Conservative. Save your money. You’ll need it as the Depression continues to unfold.
When the Right finally wakes up and realizes its a permanent minority in the new Amerika, then things will start to get interesting.
If we do not see a serious seccesionist movement in this country by 2030 at the latest, I will be shocked. Seccessionist movements are springing up all over Europe as their financial crisis deepens and ours is just getting started.
Great reply to the ‘lay down and die’ capitulation line.
Don't forget Liawatha.Regarding Snowe and Brown...I'll include a link below to the voting record stats of the House and Senate for 2010 (the latest year available) done by Americans For Democratic Action,a well known and openly Marxist "watchdog" group.If you scroll down you see that Brown,for example,has a rating of 20%.Given that 100% is considered a perfect score,that means,in their eyes,that he voted Marxist,rather than fascist,only 20% of the time.I guaran-damn-tee you that his replacement,Liawatha,will get a 100% rating for as long as she's there.As for Snowe,she got a 40% rating...and she voted against OsamaObamaCare.I guaran-damn-tee you that her filthy Marxist replacement gets a 100% rating for as long as he's there.Sadly,we must acknowledge that from some states,at least,the only two things you'll get are those who are often (or usually) conservative or are *always* 100% Marxist.Massachusetts and Maine,unfortunately,are two such states.
Myth was the bottom of the list we knew it Jim Rob knew it.
as long as we let the MSM pick our candidate we fail.
start a third party or be swept into the dustbin or history
“The Republican Party died last night and there will be no resurrection”
satan and his minions won last night. Morals and candidates of moral value lost. The stoopid electorate voted for self-interest and evil be ignored. We are in for ultimate judgment, sooner not later.
“The GOP is afraid of conservative principles. They downplay them. They need to go.
We need a constitutional party, more open to Americans of all stripes, while teaching Americans that their stripes dont matter, unifying all, whether they differ by looks or lifestyle. We need to teach people that living under an economically free, light government except for defense benefits all.”
Precisely. Beautifully stated and right on target. Until the Geriatric Old Plotters are left behind, they will continue to vitiate all conservative strength, enthusiasm and effort.
And then he didn’t put up a fight. He played prevent defense from the first debate til the bitter end.
He lost via timidity.
Fast and Furious: crickets
Food police: crickets
He is Tom Cruise, Maverick, in Top Gun during the final dogfight. He disengages and the controllers are all shouting “engage, engage” and he flies off.
Cruise eventually reengaged. Mitt didn’t.
I do know that by 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG.
I do know that by 2042 half of the country will be minorities as defined by the USG.
Demography is destiny. The 1965 Immigration Act changed this country forever and now we seeing the electoral consequences.
Mitt Romney won white voters by 20 points in todays presidential election, according to exit polls, which is the same margin that Ronald Reagan won that demographic by in his 1980 landslide over Jimmy Carter. But given that white voters are a smaller percentage of the electorate these days and hes doing poorly among minority voters, Romney is on the cusp of losing the election. In 1980, Reagan won white voters 56 percent to 36 percent, with third party candidate John Anderson taking 8 percent of the vote. He ended up beating Carter by 10 points and winning 44 states.
Romney has won white voters by the same 20-point margin, 59 percent to 39 percent. But the big difference is that in 1980, whites were 88 percent of the electorate, whereas in this election, they were just 73 percent.
Romney was also coming down heavy on the education lobby and teachers unions.
WE MUST break the back of this lobby -- get as many children out of these anti-American indoctrination camps as possible.
DO NOT believe that institutions of higher learning are the end all and be all for success!
EDUCATION must be reformed. WHAT good are so many of these expensive, worthless degrees?!
MEDIA must be confronted; people must be exposed to the truth.
Yep, Ariel Sharon is Methuselah, once he dies, it’s judgement, first it was flood, now comes the fire, why do you think Obama hasn’t been to Israel, he is the mahdi! God help us all, Israel is surrounded, war is inevitable, the money is spent, the Democrats are the party of Sodom and Gomorrah!
Bullshit. Romney was unable to equal even McCain's vote total!
That is sufficient proof that a non-conservative GOP candidate was unable to energize the Evangelical/TEA party base.
A Gingrich, Palin, or Santorum would have had a better chance against 0bama's socialism than Romney's socialism-lite.
It's not that there weren't enough GOP voters, it's that not enough of them went to the polls. Because the GOPe sold us a "moderate" once again.
For God's sake, Mitt Romney was the governor of Massachusetts! He was the virtual architect of 0bamacare! He also supported the auto bailout!
How was Romney different than 0bama, again? Other than, say, tax policy, there simply wasn't sufficient difference. Not enough to turn out an incumbent who was backed by a complicit media and a dependent "taker" class.
Scott Brown could win in NH, ME or PA. He CAN NOT win in Mass.
We got taken to the cleaners here in NH because women voted for other women because of ABORTION. The Dem machine did a great job in demonizing Ovide, and the two incumbent congressmen. We need to cultivate candidates that are appealing to WHITE WOMEN. Women care about social issues. We(white men) care about financial responsibility, etc. We do not have much a hispanic community here in NH(5%) or blacks(1%) and we got our butts kicked. In a way I am glad Charlie Bass lost. Now we can run Jennifer Horn(tea party candidate) next time and win.
“To everyone who says this, how would a conservative taken away the 75% hispanic, and 93+% black vote that went for Obama?
You are kidding yourself thinking that true conservative would have won this election. The GOP as we knew it is DONE. Conservative values are not wanted by the majority, therefore you can not win by running on Conservative values.
What is so difficult to understand?”
Someone gets it...
This has been building for 40 years, while most Freepers sat on the sidelines saying, “Someone! do something!”.
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