Skip to comments.THE GOP DIED LAST NIGHT
Posted on 11/07/2012 5:42:23 AM PST by shortstop
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” We only loose if we,as conservatives,refuse to fight.”
So what, pray tell does that fight look like?
Conservatism needs to go full beast mode.
The GOP compromised conservative principles and ran a flaming liberal and Freerepublic compromised conservative principles and embraced a flaming liberal and today is the result of playing party politics and abandoning principle.
Therefore, you Sir or Ma'am, are the problem here.
No, he didn’t clean Barry’s clock. But do you really think that Santorum or Newt would have done better?
“Romney ran an absolutely awful campaign with 1 spectacular debate that kept him in striking distance.”
Romney ran one of the best organized, best-informed, most micro-targeted campaigns we have ever seen.
Until you begin to understand the true enemy we face, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, you will continue to lose.
Hell, a woman who faked being a minority for government-mandated benefits got elected to the Senate, for chrissakes.
“It’s the econonmy stupid” is no more. What do economic conditions matter ( i.e., high unemployment ), when you have politicians promising you a free living off the public dole? Hey, I ain’t go no job, no problem. This guy is promising me free food stamps, free health care, free phone... economy schmonomy.
It is now, “It’s the demographics, stupid”.
Republicans need to infiltrate the Democrat party, fight fire with fire,
We are now a third world nation, Obama is leveling the playing fields, communist have been infiltrating the Democratic party for decades, now we Have Islam doing the same.
Run for office become a Democrat insider find out what it really going on.
Pretty much what I think too. I would love to see a President Palin(or Perry or Gingrich), but if this electorate was afraid of Mittens because of his milquetoast Pro-Life stance, that pretty much answers how the more militant candidates would have fared. Sad, but true. I pray for the day that this country can be taken back for God, but it’s probably too late.
Our country and it's values of inalienable rights from our Creator, of freedom & liberty & Judeo-Christian founding principles, are now officially dead. Over 50% of the country very stupidly voted for the RAT bastard commie muslim pig 0bama in 2008 and re-affirmed that again yesterday.
We are now officially one nation under government rather than one nation under God. I cannot understand why God would choose to honor & bless the RAT bastart satanic demonic 0bama or the democRAT party, over the millions of Christians & conservatives who voted against 0bama. It is a complete & utter travesty & devastation that was a complete slap in the face to Christians & patriots yesterday.
This is now America's greatest day of Infamy in our history. Our nation will shrivel & die within the next 4 years, and will likely be carved up into 4-5 regional countries, subservient to China, Russia & the Islamic caliphate.
You are using dated figures. The counting is still going on. Currently, it is Obama with 50% (59,666,257 votes) and Romney with 48% (57,045,223 votes).
Obama received 69 million in 2008 and McCain 59 million. I anticipate Obama will finish with around 63 million and Romney with about 60 million. Obama lost far more votes, but I think Romney did well since many conservative voters (WWII era folks) have died since 2008 and we are not replenishing them in the GOP.
That 59 million by McCain was the second largest number ever received by a Presidential candidate topped only by Obama's 69 million. I think the Rep vote is already hitting a high water mark. Demography is destiny.
FYI: Only 68% of the CA vote is in with Obama leading by about 2 million 5.5 million to 3.5 million. In 2008 Obama won CA 8.2 million to 5 million. We should see around another 4 million votes counted in CA, which will add to both totals.
If you are not willing to vote for a Republican candidate unless he is 110% to your liking, perhaps you are the RINO.
This country has lost its moral compass.
Eventually it will regain morality of the Islamic kind, may take decades, but they are patient, ask Obama.
Anybody that did not vote for Romney last night, is my enemy. I will no longer allow them in my life and will hold them responsible for the next four years.
Agreed 100% In TX, we will be blue in 20 years. GOP cannot win without TX’s 38 (will be more in 20 yrs).
If your statement that we are now a center-left country is true (which it probably is), then to hell with this irreconcilable Union. I want a divorce. I hope Secession is in our future.
Obama won because he took 5.1 million more votes in the under 30 demographic.
That’s obviously where we need to focus. The good news that in 2016 they will be 4 years older, paying taxes (if they can find jobs) and see what their health coverage looks like. People tend to become more conservative as they get older.
The Republican Party, the party of The Bushes, Bob Dole, John McCain and The Mittster, the party of indescribably stupid people like Akin and Mourdock, the party of selfish arrogant pricks like Chris Christie, the party that exists only to go along to get along, so long as there's an equity position to be found in any situation, died last night.
Oh it didn't? Well it fewking well deserved to. Not that it matters, but on my list to do today is to go change my registration to Independent, and then to ceremoniously BURN my Republican voter ID, never to change it back, "not never ever".
Then this weekend, discussion at home about how to weather the storm yet to come, or just face it now.
Best of luck to everyone...
I prayed daily but in my heart I knew people would never allow a Mormon president, but they don’t seem to have a problem of a Muslim one.
Obama isn’t for gay marriage, he just lies.
I am literally physically ill and depressed,
I truly think we are witnessing the last days.
The war on Christianity will continue with Obama’s blessing
Thanks for the correction on votes.
“Demography is destiny.”
Only if hispanics are incapable of learning about freedom and personal initiative. I doubt that is true. Texas and Arizona have a lot of hispanics but are not turning into liberal strongholds.
Rather than pandering to hispanics, we need to EDUCATE with intelligent, convincing arguments.
“The Republican Party stopped being a nationally viable political organization.
Oh, it will continue to exist.
But it will likely never again truly contest for the presidency. The nation has changed, the values have been replaced, the demographics are different.
The demographics are insurmountable.
Last night was a tipping point, a dance on a razors edge, and it went the other way. What was undoable last night will become increasingly impossible with each passing year. The margins will grow, the base will shrink, the tide will turn and the day will pass.”
I have to agree. I have felt that way for a couple of election cycles. Sure, 2010 was a great night - but as one local commentator said “I wonder if 2008 was a realigning election anf whether 2010 was just a fluke?”.
I think we, as a nation, have now driven past the last exit ramp. We will reach a point where the minority pay for the majority. We will reach that point very soon. Racial and cultural demographics are strongly against the GOP too.
Like the author of this article, I believe we may never again see a Republican President.
This is sad in so many ways.
Mitt gave it his all as did Paul Ryan. The electorate seemed to turn their way after the first debate but the bottom fell out near the campaign’s end. That is not the fault of Romney Ryan but the fault of the people who have been given up to ignorance by the Lord who is allowing the nation to do itself in. You can highlight shortcomings of the candidates until the cows come home, but the candidates were so much better than the voters who decided it, weren’t they? That cannot be denied.
These were not voters who could have been swayed by “let’s highlight Obama’s extremism and let’s obsess on Benghazi”.
Romney Ryan emphazised economics and good small business American values. They were traditional Americans representing what had been a center right nation. And they came across as competent, decent men with plans to save us while Obama Biden Reid Pelosi came across as the opposite on all those points.
Yet, their side won, ours lost.
That says the electorate is responsible.
Your are right about schools being pits of indoctination of the young.
It’s all in what is passed down from grandparents and parents to children.
The bible says so, and it is right!
I sympathize, but I think you’re a little over the top. Some of my best friends are progressives. Nice people, just ignorant. I’m still hoping to educate them.
In other words you don’t have a name.
The Mahdi in the Koran is referred to as the AntiChrist in the Bible. Descriptions and 7 years of rule are the same. The only difference is the Koran stops at the end of 7 years. The Bible goes further. The AntiChrist is thrown into the lake of fire along with his army, and there's 1,000 years of peace on earth after the evil members of the human race are gone.
The antiChrist is a man of desolation (check) and a man of sin (check). Christ was born of a virgin, Oboma was born of a whore. Christ has a loving father. Oboma has many, but I don't think even he knows who his real father is. Christ spoke in truth, Oboma speaks in lies.
If you read the 10 Commandments, you'll see that political correctness, the doctrines of demons, is their opposite.
If you search maps on the net that show the U.S. after a pole shift, you'll see the liberal areas are "cleansed" and under water - just like the Hopi Indians predicted when they talked about the great cleansing of evil that was to come.
No matter where you look, in the end, the liberals are gone. Right now, the world is divided. The sheep are being separated from the goats, the wheat from the chaff. Evil is being bundled together to be thrown into the fire.(Where are the liberal strong holds? Cities - mostly along coastal areas, where they're packed together like sewer rats and easier to gather).
“Romney ran one of the best organized, best-informed, most micro-targeted campaigns we have ever seen.”
I’ll grant you the ‘micro’.
Never before has such a law been passed in America with the sheer power that our “present” contained. Never have so many ideals of Liberty been ignored.
It is highly unlikely that our economy will be able to lift the massive weight that has been placed on it. Keep in mind, our debt to GDP ratio is already equal to Greece. 4 years of that law may well bring our staggering economy back on its knees and then to flat on its face.
It is even more unlikely that we will repeal the law after it goes into effect. There is no historical precedence for such action. At best we will ‘reform’ it and prolong our suffering while not gaining the people any freedom.
Yes we will survive, but it will be a hard road and America will never be the same.
So we can either fear that and rue our demise or look for like minded individuals in those groups. You have to remember, Hispanics were traditionally conservative. They are very religious, anti-abortion, hard working and pro-family. They have been slowly morphed into the new liberal stronghold but we can’t just surrender that. We need to get in there and fight it out.
I hope that the GOP elitists (Rove, et al.) who engineered this debacle will learn from their mistakes (McCain and Romney) and not foist another liberal on the party in 2016. But, we'll see.
Maybe it's now time to consider another party. We need to once again unify behind conservative principles.
Thanks, but they are all over the place here blaming Romney.
I have a headline to throw at them, but of course they won’t pay any attention...they never do.
But just between us, the breaking news headline on FR is - “Obama’s winning coalition of women and non-whites...”
Oh yeah, we’re supposed to believe that a different candidate or with a different approach could have won over more of those Obama voters. Failing that, we’re supposed to believe that the “too pure to vote Romney Ryan in the swing states” crowd would have come out by the millions to sweep away the left and the misguided, if only a different candidate had run against Obama.
I don’t believe it. The evidence is not there. Some of those who sat home might have once been mainstreet conservatives who are now on disability and have dropped out of the process. Obama is turning this nation into dependency on steroids. Those who aren’t compromised by dependency but failed to vote against Obama in a swing state because they were “too good for Romney Ryan” are responsible, for it was easy to see that the very worst outcome was Obama Reid winning, and that’s what happened.
America was a center right nation. The Romney Ryan appeal was to that center right nation. It was traditional mainstreet conservatism if not rock ribbed, theoretical conservatism. Time was in America when their view was predominate and they would have won.
This is a different America and the electorate is responsible for how they vote, or don’t vote.
“We have some adjustments to make sure, especially with women and Hispanics....”
Oh, I see. We carried the married women. But, we’ll comntinue to lose the single, childless women unless we sign on to their holy mantra that allows them to kill their children without cost or consequence. And we’ll continue to lose the single women who have kids unless we loudly proclaim that we will be their surrogate husband and the adoptive parent of their offspring. Once we get to that point, we will just be another Democrat.
As for the hispanics, with the exception of the Cubans who escaped Castro’s Cuba, they have historically been socialists who can put out their hands for freebies with the best of them. We will never get them unless we happily give them free stuff. Again, once we get to that point, we will just be another Democrat.
Me? I will never be a Democrat. I will hold on to my honor and my principles, even if I end up being the last man with any. Better to be alone, and at peace with myself, and die an honorable man, than to compromise who I am just to “get along.” I would much prefer death to dishonor.
What is so difficult to understand?,
It's a pretty good bet that being moderate didn't win this election.
If we are going to loose either way, might as be right while we do it.
The United States of America
Date of Birth: July 4, 1776
Date of Demise: November 6, 2012
Cause of Demise: OBAMACIDE
Well said. It is too early to say that the GOP is dead. We heard this about the GOP after Nixon, and we heard about the Dems when Nixon was first elected (Seems I remember telethons for the Democrat party back then.).
That said, while I am a Republican, I am a conservative first. There is some major rebranding to do. Some of the social issues should be dumped (mostly the homosexuality-related ones) and others (such as abortion) need to be re-tooled. In my view, abortion is a matter that needs to be addressed at the level of women’s hearts, because we have lost the legal battle. Science will likely catch up and render the abortion issue moot, either by developing contraceptives that even liberals can use, by making viability even earlier in a pregnancy, and/or other developments that we cannot anticipate.
The truth is, the VAST majority of people live their lives in a conservative manner. They work, they go home, they spend time with their families, many still go to church weekly and very few raise their children the same way that liberal government “raises” its citizens.
Don’t shoot for the young vote. The young will always be idealistic and naive. Conservatives are grown up. They will always be the majority.
The race issue really troubles me. The fact of the matter is that many conservatives remain prejudiced against racial minorities, based on skin color alone. That must end. For those of us who believe that ability and a good work ethic trump all other characteristics as a matter of economics, racism just doesn’t fit in. As for myself, and I believe most other conservatives (at least I hope so), it is not skin color that matters, it is behaviors and attitudes that can be adopted or rejected (irrespective of race, in fact). Conservatives need to concentrate on responsible fatherhood, valuing education, personal responsibility and content of character. Those who share those values, and I believe that most people of all ethnic backgrounds share them, can make a powerful impact on the social and political scene.
Forgive my rant.
americas demographics are changing, and their changing to the left.
look for an even more skittish and fearful GOP, too afraid to oppose illegal immigration lest it offend hispanics even though they won’t get their vote anyway.
No, that is a delusion. Hispanics have 50% out of wedlock birthrates. They have the highest school drop out rate of any group. 57% of all immigrant headed households with children are on at least one major welfare program. If you want to look at what happens with large hispanic populations look to CA. And AZ and Texas are moving to becoming more and more Dem. It is just a matter of time.
Oh please. Really people the panic is silly. Elections come, elections go. The GOP will almost certainly win the presidency in 2016, because after 2 terms America is pretty much sick of the president and his party. That’s why sitting VPs so rarely win, and why even when the VP doesn’t run their party loses. There’s no such thing as a permanent majority, because 1/3 is the mushy middle, and the primary belief of the mushy middle is that the guys currently in charge suck.
Demographics have changed, and not in our favor.
And, as such, you enabled the very apparatus you now attack. I don't blame you for your vote and never would.
My vote was not based on religion. It was based on Romney's full-on liberalism. If there is any saving grace from yesterday's results, it's that Mitt Romney is now finished as a major political player.
The American Party (1856) has already come forward and failed. The American Independent Party (1968) ditto. Been there done that, and liberalism marches on. Ronald Reagan said he would slow the advance; then he put Sandra Day O’Connor up there to reject his own programs.
The Republican Party died last night and there will be no resurrection. The socialists have a firm grip on the mechanics of our government and are loading up their base for all future elections. I never will see a Republican president in my lifetime.
Very sad but true epitaphs. It is hard for me this morning to accept the fact that Amerika is now officially one nation under socialist-marxist-islamic government as opposed to one nation under God. In 2008 America made a very stupid move by electing a communist agitator & muslim as our president, and over 50% of the voters last night heartedly re-affirmed that decision by rewarding the communist muslim pig 0bama with another 4 years. We (Christians, conservatives, patriots) are now in the minority as a reviled, scorned & persecuted minority with no protected class designation.
God forgive our nation and give us strength to endure to the end!
I woke depressed that the nightmare last night is now our reality.Thanks for throwing the cold water/wake up call. I think I will print your post and put it on my computer, next to this — Jeremiah 29:11.
I am not saying Hispanics are currently inclined to vote GOP. However, they DO have a strong emphasis on family, and MANY believe in hard work and saving. The GOP cannot win without them, and we cannot pander to them and still hold true to conservatism - so that means we need to reach out to Hispanics WITH STRONG, CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND ARGUMENTS.
Or give up and shoot ourselves. I prefer Door #1.
And they’ll change again. Twice in the last 14 years election results have caused analysts to say that one party now had a “permanent majority” that would last at least 20 years, first time for the Dems and 4 years later for the GOP. The reality is the demographic don’t really change that much. There’s about 1/3 that are fairly hard right, 1/3 hard left, and the mushy middle. Sometimes the mushy middle look like they’ve changed character and are hard leaning in one direction, but in relatively short order they revert to form and hate the guys in charge.
It doesn't matter if the minorities are out voting us.
I mean they re-elected a guy who has been in rehab for the past six months, for chrissakes.
And good use of down stream family values initiatives was Roves trick to get a bunch of those same minorities to give the Bush his second term. They’ll change back.
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