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New York, New Jersey order evacuations ahead of new storm
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 11/7/12 | Michelle Nichols and Daniel Trotta

Posted on 11/07/2012 6:43:18 AM PST by Kartographer

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To: Lazamataz

You know, I’ve noticed over the years, that those who harden their hearts towards others suffering and tragedies, tend to undergo their own at some point in their lives.

It kind of puts them in their place, burns the pride and arrogance out of them.

Those FReepers who live in blue states and HYPOCRITICALLY tell others who live in blue states that they’re getting what they deserve because their state voted blue, will get theirs.

And honestly, that’s the thing I am most flabbergasted over. The stone throwing.

Funny how they can dish it out and not take it. There are none so blind as those who will not see. The first step to recovery is to recognize that you have a problem, but there’s no hope for those who condemn others while being in the exact situation themselves. That kind of willful blindness takes some serious correction.


151 posted on 11/07/2012 9:31:20 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: brownsfan

They’ll not get a plug nickel in charitable assistance from me. If they want to lick the hand of government, then they can freeze in the dark waiting for FEMA to come to their aid. I’ll help those who help themselves. The whiners and hand wringers made their own bed. File this one under “choices have consequences”.


152 posted on 11/07/2012 9:34:48 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: mom4melody; Lazamataz; Kartographer

It’s not just today.

You know, I’ve been watching this attitude towards NY-ers and NJ-ians (or whatever) for over a week now concerning the destruction of the region by Hurricane Sandy and it has gotten well past old.

I live in NYS and am NOT a kool-aid drinking liberal. I know plenty of people who live downstate, and there are FReepers who live there who I don’t know personally, who do not *deserve* what they’re getting in the aftermath of that storm. Nobody *deserves* that.

The blanket condemnation of all people in an area because of the actions and attitudes of a few, is simply not acceptable from those who call themselves FReepers. Neither is the callous hardening of hearts towards those who have lost everything.

That storm hit indiscriminately, not picking and choosing based on voting preferences. It had nothing to do with politics.


153 posted on 11/07/2012 9:38:41 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: brownsfan

Your quote: “That said, it doesn’t stop me from enjoying misfortunes that befall my enemy.”

I will do just fine through the storm.


154 posted on 11/07/2012 9:42:47 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: metmom

Hey, y’all...the rain falls on the just and the unjust...

Today we are all burnt and mad and looking for a dog to kick. A lot of us are working on little to no sleep, hooch hangovers, and wild disapointments.

And we all know good and well that if a fellow freeper was in trouble we would do whatever we could to help out...no matter where they live. And we also know we don’t wish disease and disaster on each other.

Play nice kiddies. Or you might get a timeout from a Mod.


155 posted on 11/07/2012 9:46:15 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: brownsfan
Remember that pot you tried in college?

It turned you gay.

156 posted on 11/07/2012 10:04:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Lord, hear my prayer and give brownsfan a particularly painful form of pancreatic cancer. Love, Laz.)
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To: brownsfan

No problem man! I’m just as disgusted today as you are, but at least we can all still accuse each other of being segments of excrement, and by golly that oughtta count for something.


157 posted on 11/07/2012 10:05:23 AM PST by Rammer
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To: metmom

Um...ok.

Still not gonna care.


158 posted on 11/07/2012 10:06:43 AM PST by Rammer
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To: Lazamataz; brownsfan; metmom

I’m in Florida so I guess it applies down here as well. Ah well sometimes the best response is ‘God Bless You’, and move on.

One thing the lefties have over Conservatives, they will usually band together and support lefties in trouble.

Its so easy to get conservatives to fight amongst ourselves.


159 posted on 11/07/2012 10:19:57 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer
Chris Christie must be besides himself. Another chance to pal around his new buddies Obama and Springsteen:

chris christie rino

160 posted on 11/07/2012 10:23:45 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: metmom

Christie sure made it all about politics....


161 posted on 11/07/2012 10:36:59 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Kartographer

Looks like christie will have to kiss his new best buddies butt some more.


162 posted on 11/07/2012 10:51:23 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: LadyBuck
All charitable giving has been suspended in this household until further notice.

After seeing the SRM laughing and smiling last night, I feel the same way. They can give all their money to fix the NE with their dollars.

163 posted on 11/07/2012 11:17:16 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Lazamataz

please enough!!!! DO not retaliate with the same nonsense that you find appaling, sheesh! Today is a bad day for conservatives and republicans. sheesh.


164 posted on 11/07/2012 11:26:00 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: frogjerk

Staten island is a picture into what Amerika will look like in the next major terrorist attack. gnashing of teeth while they call out for help. His response will be the same.
no one came in bengazi no one came to NY.
we are totally on our own now. And I mean TOTALLY.


165 posted on 11/07/2012 11:26:35 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Lazamataz
Can I add the amen to that?

Amen.

166 posted on 11/07/2012 11:29:43 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: metmom
Chill out.

These comments are simply referring to the political leadership of those States, not the Innocent victims.

167 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:00 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cinnamontea
To much is given, much is expected.

This nation was formed under Biblical principals and has rejected them.

168 posted on 11/07/2012 11:32:14 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Rammer

Your choice.

Too bad you sold your soul.


169 posted on 11/07/2012 11:34:10 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Lazamataz

You have you lost your mind?


170 posted on 11/07/2012 11:34:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: metmom

Because they got out of Sodom!


171 posted on 11/07/2012 11:36:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: panaxanax

Not feeling too chartatable either. Many are not communists but those that are get to enjoy the millions in charity by the conservatives who step ip to help. Then they demonize and mock us.
Nj ny chicago detroit new orleand all vote in the most power hungry corrupt godless men. i will help my own first. i suspect there wont be much left over.


172 posted on 11/07/2012 11:38:56 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz,

Please do not do this, please. We are all worn out, angry and upset. I get it.

I did not want to make this about me and in truth it is not. Many have this experience: My best friend on this earth died from pancreatic cancer. The last 8 days of her life were spent in a drug induced coma, as the pain was killing her. She was 36. Please do not go where you went.

Please.

MOgirl

173 posted on 11/07/2012 11:39:54 AM PST by MOgirl (STAND)
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To: metmom

LOL, okey dokey.


174 posted on 11/07/2012 11:42:53 AM PST by Rammer
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To: Kartographer

Screw NYC and NJ.

Since they elected this president for us, I hope incurable cholera breaks out and millions die.


175 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:14 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

On the contrary, I’ve read enough over the last week about the callous attitude towards the survivors of Sandy. There is no distinction in some people’s minds between the innocent victims and the political leadership.

For that matter, in their minds, there are no innocent victims. Even those conservatives who live there are not considered *innocent victims*. They are guilty by default for the simple sin of living where they live.

Those living in blue states themselves that went to obama have no legitimate business pointing fingers at others who live in blue states.

The callous attitude of conservatives towards others in the midst of their suffering, liberal or conservative, is worthy of what I read at DU. Liberals are not the enemy. Many of them are misguided, deceived individuals who I feel sorry for because they don’t get it.

They are our neighbors, just like the Samaritan in Jesus’ parable.

And even if they weren’t our neighbor but rather our enemy, and we don’t like where their politics got us, we are not off the hook for praying for them and showing them love.

A person cannot selectively harden their hearts. Once the wall goes up, it affects EVERY relationship. People who harden their hearts like that are only hurting themselves, making themselves somewhat less than human. It’s taking out of themselves what it is that distinguishes a human being from an animal that eats its young.

I kind of doubt that Jesus checked out a person’s political affiliation before feeding the 5,000 or healing the sick.


176 posted on 11/07/2012 11:49:24 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Sad really.


177 posted on 11/07/2012 11:56:23 AM PST by yield 2 the right
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To: metmom
You have to recognize that those who would harden their hearts to individuals who truely are suffering is very small on FR.

What you are seeing now on FR is simply a reaction to the Blue States who expect to be bailed out by the Red States for their own free spending ways.

The Gov. of NY wants the national taxpayers to pick up the tab for all of the disaster relief in the State.

That is why there is such a reaction to the legitimate suffering going on.

Most of my family lives in Con. so I know what they are going through.

178 posted on 11/07/2012 11:57:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: metmom
I’ve been watching this attitude towards NY-ers and NJ-ians (or whatever) for over a week now concerning the destruction of the region by Hurricane Sandy and it has gotten well past old.

People deserve what their actions result in. Since no one did anything to cause the hurricane, I'd have to agree that no one deserved the hurricane. It wasn't God's punishment. It was a random act of nature that fell at random on one part of the country.

However, that being said the repeated re-election of corrupt and incompetent democratic officials and the tolerance of union everything in NY and NJ has led to a poor recovery effort. Specifically power outages that have extended more than a week with no end in sight for some are the direct result of the unions' turning away help. Who is responsible for letting the union thugs turn away the Alabama Power linemen who left their families and drove 1000 miles to help people? Lard boy Christie(R), 0bama's new best friend, sure didn't speak up and have the union thugs arrested. SO people of NJ who elected a corrupt and incompetent government are responsible for their own troubles in part.

The gas shortages in NJ are the direct result of laws that prohibit gas refined elsewhere from being sold at retail in NJ, AND the extended power outages. These things are a consequence of who was elected over the years, and the people of NJ did the electing. SO while I sympathize somewhat with those hardworking individuals in NY and NJ who are suffering from the aftermath of the storm, I can't get too worked up because they brought at least some of the consequences on themselves.

The people for whom I have absolutely NO sympathy at all are the public housing parasites who are in the dark. NY Post a couple of days ago had a quote from a public housing resident, one "frustrated Ralph Felts" who said about a flooded basement in his project, "When is somone going to do something about this." Lazy a$$hole. They expect their fellow citizens to provide them everything and complain when they don't get first service. SO while I don't wish evil on NY and NJ residents, actions have consequences and electing liberal corrupt union sucking governments is in part responsible for the length of time it's taking to get everything restored to at least a minimum of functionality.

179 posted on 11/07/2012 12:08:04 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: red irish

Sometimes the best way to illustrate someone’s absurdity is to be absurd.


180 posted on 11/07/2012 12:40:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lord, hear my prayer and give brownsfan a particularly painful form of pancreatic cancer. Love, Laz.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Screw NYC and NJ. Since they elected this president for us, I hope incurable cholera breaks out and millions die.

So the Romney/GOP was, also, expecting to get NY and NJ? Check your oil before spewing idiotic venom. Truly you are not one who can think for yourself - just jump on the bandwagon! Liberalism/Rinoism at it's finest!

181 posted on 11/07/2012 12:42:59 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: fortheDeclaration

NY way over payed federal taxes about $87 Billion 1990-2009. They should take back some of their own money .
No more.

www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/08/americas-fiscal-union

New Mexio. Time to give that back to Mexico. Heck , they can have Florida, Alabama, Hawaii . Alaska, and Missippi .
Time to get rid of some dead weight.
Texas is not too shabby, they overpaid
$34 Billion in taxes. Well keep them.

Not like the $150 Billion NJ overpaid.


182 posted on 11/07/2012 12:47:11 PM PST by Morris70
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To: fortheDeclaration; metmom
Chill out.

Check it out.

These comments are simply referring to the political leadership of those States, not the Innocent victims.

You are wrong, like I said check it out before telling someone to chill out.

183 posted on 11/07/2012 12:47:39 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: LadyBuck
Know exactly how you feel.

If The Kenyan is going to reach further and further into our pockets then charity begins at home.

184 posted on 11/07/2012 12:52:31 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; metmom
You have to recognize that those who would harden their hearts to individuals who truely are suffering is very small on FR.

YOU have to recognize that metmom was addressing very small individuals on FR.

What you are seeing now on FR is simply a reaction to the Blue States who expect to be bailed out by the Red States for their own free spending ways.

What is in the heart comes out the mouth. In this case, HARDNESS. Deal with it. Do you know anyone in NYC or NJ that was hit by Sandy and they were 'free spending'? If not, zip it and don't make wild claims.

185 posted on 11/07/2012 1:03:17 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: from occupied ga
The people for whom I have absolutely NO sympathy at all are the public housing parasites who are in the dark. NY Post a couple of days ago had a quote from a public housing resident, one "frustrated Ralph Felts" who said about a flooded basement in his project, "When is somone going to do something about this." Lazy a$$hole. They expect their fellow citizens to provide them everything and complain when they don't get first service. SO while I don't wish evil on NY and NJ residents, actions have consequences and electing liberal corrupt union sucking governments is in part responsible for the length of time it's taking to get everything restored to at least a minimum of functionality.

Can't say as I disagree with anything you said, but like I said, the blanket condemnation of everyone living in a blue state by others who themselves live in a blue state, is hypocritical at the very least.

When conservatives mouth off like that about hardening their hearts, all it does is add fuel to the lies the liberals posit about conservatives being callous.

Would I bail out some welfare deadbeat who's whining about the government not being there to provide for him in the way and as fast as he likes? Not likely. The most I'd probably do is offer him a sandwich, delivered with a lecture about depending on others.

Throwing conservatives under the bus because of where they live is not acceptable. They live where they live and don't answer to strangers about why they are there. And they do NOT deserve to be thrown under the bus.

186 posted on 11/07/2012 1:12:22 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Lazamataz
Sometimes the best way to illustrate someone’s absurdity is to be absurd.

Clearly the callous FReepers are absurdity challenged as well.

187 posted on 11/07/2012 1:13:53 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: presently no screen name

Um, no. I am tired of our Northeastern elites telling us how to live.

I hope cholera whipes them all out.


188 posted on 11/07/2012 1:19:58 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Kartographer; presently no screen name
You have to recognize that those who would harden their hearts to individuals who truely are suffering is very small on FR.

Go on Kartographer's threads and read some of them and get back to me on that, because that is NOT what I see. There are far more than a small number of folks engaged in that kind of mentality.

It's disgusting the attitude I've seen on display by these so-called FReepers about the disaster Sandy inflicted on the US.

189 posted on 11/07/2012 1:21:52 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: presently no screen name
Romans 13:1-7 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.

5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

And this written to people living under Nero.

God has a plan for this world, and it more than ever looks like this is the end times. If that's really the case, then certain situations and scenarios HAVE TO BE in place for it to happen.

And I have precious little doubt that this is part of it.

Our attitude should not be one of condemnation of those suffering because of where they live, but looking on this as an opportunity to show the truth and the love of Christ to those who are hurting and see the salvation of their souls.

Our best response to this is to pray that God would use these desperate circumstances, both physical and political, to PRAY for revival and the salvation of those peoples souls.

190 posted on 11/07/2012 1:28:08 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Hey metmom.

Hope you got , or at a place that has power. Felt heat Monday night. Was nice.
Sister up north will not have power until Sunday. Much colder there. I grew up that area. Ran winter track in shorts and played snow golf with orange balls .
Lots of conservatives in NJ.
My hometown there were some democrats but didn’t advertise it. Never saw one sign anywhere on personal property advertising it. They would have been ostracized.

I reccomend you avoid this site for a long time . Plenty of other conservative sites to share positive
Conservative ideas.
You’ll thank me later :)


191 posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:19 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Morris70

Parts of CNY, like where I live, got little wind, little rain and no power outages. I would not have know there was a hurricane without the news reports on it. It was basically pretty normal, mostly overcast, gloomy fall weather.

I honestly thought better of, and hoped for better from, FReepers than what I’ve seen displayed here on these threads.

If someone is going to vote themselves benefits from Uncle Handout, well, they don’t have any business complaining about how it’s managed, but fer cryin’ out loud, it’s not the fault of the entire electorate, and they don’t *deserve* it.


192 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:25 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

To Metmom

I also had just a little rain with some wind.
Sounded over hyped to me until next day.
Thought I lost power to car hitting pole which happens some time.
I live near coast but not close enough to consider myself near the shore.
Insurance companies should cover homes & businesses . State/federal money should only be used for infrastructure they already maintain .
Most people have the education & income to recover well.
Areas that were already receiving high welfare just want more stuff. Without good education &
self supporting income individuals are just living on contributions or subsidies .

With pell grant & Other loans these people can easily get a job making more money in a year than welfare pays in four. Especially in tri state area where people choose income over free time.
Education is the greatest weapon against welfare and the democrats know it and fear it.
That’s why they give bribes to the poor.
And free education to illegal aliens. They will work for less and take jobs from minority graduates , maintaining demand for welfare programs.


193 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:03 PM PST by Morris70
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To: metmom

AMEN!! That is the purpose we are here. This isn’t home, this is temporary. It’s all about Jesus - He showed us The Way. Pity those who are so comfy that they don’t reach out to others. Hard heart, like you say. Samaritan’s Purse comes with everything that is necessary, tools, generators the whole ball of wax and A BIBLE! That is the help that LASTS forever.


194 posted on 11/07/2012 5:11:51 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I am tired of our Northeastern elites telling us how to live.

Obama isn't from the NE. And neither is the mooch.

195 posted on 11/07/2012 5:19:02 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Lazamataz

Broken hearts are for assholes, and there are a lot of both on this thread.


196 posted on 11/07/2012 7:26:32 PM PST by real saxophonist
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
They voted for Obama in droves.

Let him take care of them. Oh, whats that? The elections over?

Well, tough luck kiddies. Looks like you're all alone in the storm. Besta Luck.

197 posted on 11/07/2012 7:28:30 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 10/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

What storm? You talkin bout the 4 inches of snow on the ground? That’s just a dusting .
It’s also kinda warm this time of the year.

You may want to check the exp date in those meds.


198 posted on 11/07/2012 8:53:20 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Kartographer

Good morning sir...I think I’m listed twice in your ping group. My prepper pings are coming by the pair. :)


199 posted on 11/08/2012 4:29:29 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: presently no screen name

I am talking about NY, NJ, MA, CN etc.

But Chicago is equally yankee.


200 posted on 11/08/2012 7:56:41 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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