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Why Hispanics Donít Vote for Republicans
National Review Online ^ | November 7, 2012 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:27 PM PST by neverdem

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To: kabar

I beg to differ. It is the former territory of the Spanish and Portuguese empires, and goes from Mexico to the Caribbean to Argentina.

101 posted on 11/07/2012 10:09:45 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabar

Very well put. Worthy of publication. Thank you.

102 posted on 11/07/2012 10:14:34 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: righttackle44

“Seems as if your attitude is one of the reasons Mexicans won’t vote for Republicans.”

They voted 75% Democrat. That wasn’t because of me.

103 posted on 11/08/2012 3:04:51 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)
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To: ari-freedom

Good grief!! Pat Buchanan said we are in a CULTURE you disagree??

104 posted on 11/08/2012 4:40:24 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Alberta's Child
This is AMERICA! "We" don't learn spanish. Immigrants learn english.

Get your priorities straight.

105 posted on 11/08/2012 6:00:06 AM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: ari-freedom
What if they don’t entertain you and you don’t give them a treat? Then you get a trick.

Then I deserve the trick as I had an implied contract with them by turning on my porch light. They have fulfilled their end when they rang the bell and said "trick or treat" as their acceptance of my offer.

If you don't want to participate, just leave your light off for a couple of hours. The key difference is that this exchange is voluntary unlike me being forced to buy your neighbor's obamaphone and groceries, pay their rent, and pay for their healthcare.

106 posted on 11/08/2012 9:19:11 AM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Excellence


107 posted on 11/08/2012 9:58:51 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: firebrand

Heather MacDonald ping!

108 posted on 11/08/2012 12:01:36 PM PST by nutmeg
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Wow... what state was this?

109 posted on 11/08/2012 12:04:09 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Alberta's Child; Zhang Fei

Agree with both of you. We should have won OH, FL, VA, and CO but didn’t. Nonetheless, we can’t just double down on failure and just chase the white vote, something I’m seeing over and over in these threads. True, the white vote has some votes left on the table we didn’t get, as we didn’t lose WI and IA because of the non white vote. However, past a certain point, you are trying to get Unionists, Socialists, Communists, and the gay vote.

110 posted on 11/08/2012 12:44:12 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: neverdem

“If only Republicans relented on their Neanderthal views”

That’s as far as I read. If Republicans abandon their core principles, then the party becomes meaningless and irrelevant. Of course, that is what the communists want, a one-party state.

111 posted on 11/08/2012 1:53:03 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: neverdem

Hispanics will not vote for a republican because all they want is $$$. Welfare, food stamps ect. I’m sorry to say this but I know this for a fact. They are not conservatives and I don’t know why I keep hearing that they are. They are not.

112 posted on 11/08/2012 3:38:26 PM PST by NJBushcountry
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Many immigrant groups should be easy targets for Republican candidates who can campaign with a populist theme. I have a number of Spanish-speaking immigrants who have married into my extended family, and there is a trend I've noticed with them and their families. This is a fairly typical "time line" of their voting patterns.

1. Madre and Padre are immigrants from [insert name of Latin American country here]. They come to the U.S., work hard and raise their family as good American citizens.

2. They both vote Democratic because someone (minister, friend, family member who immigrated previously, host of Spanish-language radio or TV station, etc.) tells them that Republicans are evil, rich white men who hate Hispanics.

3. Their kids grow up in this climate and in American public schools, and are reliable Democratic voters from the age of 18 into their early 20s. Their peers/classmates from the public schools are no different.

4. Their kids become gainfully employed in skilled trades or professional fields in their mid-20s and start paying taxes. Within 1-2 short years, they've basically become "liberals who got mugged."

5. After one last Democratic vote (if even that), they begin to vote their wallets and become staunch conservatives. There are many heated arguments (in Spanish) with Madre and Padre over this.

6. Some of these adult children adopt a conservative mindset that makes Pat Buchanan look like Cesar Chavez. By this time they've left most of their "white" American-born peers and former classmates behind -- both financially and politically. By now, these adult children of immigrant parents have no patience for any able-bodied creature is not gainfully employed (white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, etc.).

7. At some point when the kids are in their 30s they have a brutally honest conversation with Madre and Padre, and tell them that they can't afford [insert "wish item" here -- e.g., vacation to so-and-so, new/bigger home, college fund for the grandchildren, etc.] because they're being taxed to death.

8. Madre and Padre see the error of their ways, become very remorseful, turn off TeleMundo, grow up, and become hard-core conservatives just like their adult children.

These are the people who are going to become part of the GOP core.

113 posted on 11/08/2012 5:25:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: livius

It was the Ricans in Central Flórida that gave Obama the election. A race of people who’s first words are “aybaytay” (EBT).

114 posted on 11/08/2012 7:36:41 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.

115 posted on 11/08/2012 8:30:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (
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To: TexasRepublic
“If only Republicans relented on their Neanderthal views”

That’s as far as I read.

That's too bad. It's not her message. She a conservative authority on the ills of illegal immigration. Check the link in the story. Here's the last two paragraphs of her current essay.

"The idea of the 'social issues' Hispanic voter is also a mirage. A majority of Hispanics now support gay marriage, a Pew Research Center poll from last month found. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock birth rate is 53 percent, about twice that of whites.

"The demographic changes set into motion by official and de facto immigration policy favoring low-skilled over high-skilled immigrants mean that a Republican party that purports to stand for small government and free markets faces an uncertain future."

116 posted on 11/08/2012 8:50:21 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: manc; Travis McGee; DOGHEAD
Sounds like a page right out of EFAD. Maybe book #2. If you haven't read it by now as great writing and a portent of things to come, read it now as breaking news.
117 posted on 11/09/2012 7:50:25 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Viennacon
118 posted on 11/09/2012 8:12:05 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier

interesting , thank you

119 posted on 11/09/2012 8:37:45 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SaraJohnson
Heather ain’t too smart. Surrender monkey.

What exactly in her analysis do you find to be not "too smart"?

I'm not thrilled to hear more depressing news, either. But if MacDonald's interpretation of the facts is plausible (and she does tell you what facts she's looking at, in this article), then let's face reality ... rather than try to make ourselves feel better with false hopes and misdirected efforts.

120 posted on 11/09/2012 8:55:34 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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