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Puerto Rico wants to become the 51st state of the US
BBC News ^ | The Day After | 7 November 2012

Posted on 11/07/2012 6:39:20 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: manc
there are good people who are Hispanics

There are great Hispanics but the population is being successfully exploited by the Democrat party.
151 posted on 11/08/2012 5:51:23 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

agreed, you said it in a shorter way than I.

I know a family from Bolivia, they have taught their kids English, English is always spoken at their house and out in public.
They know about hard work and have college educations, their child is doing well and works hard.

Problem is that we have so many lower class, less educated immigrants who hear about handouts and think swell that is for me.
Hate laws, special right groups, groups based on color is what is wrong with this country and the Dems will always want to keep these groups to keep themselves in power and sadly many white liberal Dem voting idiots whether in a union or elitist never understand this


152 posted on 11/08/2012 5:56:39 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Flag..great observation. And while the media keeps us all wrapped up focusing on Our Flag, the obamanites can advance the progressive agenda.


153 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:37 AM PST by DBrow
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To: sean327

They went 75% for Obama, I think people are justified in not wanting them to be an even bigger part of the electorate. They just want “free” goodies.


154 posted on 11/08/2012 6:01:59 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: chopperjc

The Jews in Israel would not have voted for Obama, no way, no how


155 posted on 11/08/2012 6:04:31 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: tsowellfan

That looks like a 2004 map. Obama didn’t win any counties in WV this year, and very few in eastern KY (where Kerry actually won a couple of more counties than Gore had).

But your point is well taken.


156 posted on 11/08/2012 6:06:40 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

>If Congress grants its approval, Puerto Ricans would have the right to vote in all US elections

Boner is likely to shed a tear and vote for this insanity.

We do not need 3 or more electoral votes for the democrat welfare party.


157 posted on 11/08/2012 6:06:51 AM PST by soycd
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To: wardaddy

Great rant. Demography is destiny. This is not just a swing of a political pendulum. This trend is only going to get worse, as 10-15 illegals get amnesty and vote welfare Rat for life.

Ronald Reagan could not win California today, nor any time in the future. Reagan’s America is dead and buried and in the past.

Much thanks to the “Kumbaya conservatives” who assured us that the latino invaders had conservative values and would come around to voting for Republicans.

Useful idiots in the Marxist takeover of their own country.


158 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:51 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: proudtexasmama

Great idea!,


159 posted on 11/08/2012 6:17:55 AM PST by free-n-TX
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To: Travis McGee

10-15 MILLION that should be.


160 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They also elected a Governor who is against Statehood.


161 posted on 11/08/2012 6:22:13 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Silver Sabre; MinorityRepublican; cll; Eric Blair 2084; Verginius Rufus; SunkenCiv; sean327; ...

We really have no idea how Puerto Rico would vote were it a state. The Governor, Speaker of the House, President of the Senate, a majority of both Houses, and the mayor of 6 of the 9 largest cities, are Republicans (although given Tuesday’s election that will no longer be true come January). Most voters in Puerto Rico are socially conservative, pro-military, and, while generally populist on economic issues, they came within 1% of reelecting the Republican governor who had slashed public spending, fired 7,000+ public employees and lowered taxes on everyone (including “the rich”).

Regarding a comparison of PR to DC, the situations couldn’t be more different. But while giving DC statehood with its current boundaries would be idiotic, it would make good sense to offer statehood to a new entity (call it New Columbia) that takes in DC and its close-in suburbs. This is what I wrote on the subject 7 years ago; the electoral data is from 2004, so it’s a bit dated, but you get the picture.

A Fair and Reasonable Alternative to D.C. Statehood

Article I, section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution provides that Congress may establish a “district of government” that would not be part of any state. Under such authority, Congress took land from the states of Maryland and Virginia and established the District of Columbia, where our capital city of Washington was built. Congress later returned to Virginia the land that was ceded by that state, but even with its reduced size the District of Columbia’s permanent population grew more than anyone anticipated. There are currently around 563,000 residents of DC, and, while they have the right to vote for president, they are subject to laws passed by a Congress in which they do not have voting representation; in fact, Congress has plenary powers to legislate over DC, and thus does not need to comply with the exigencies of the Commerce Clause or any of the other enumerated powers described in the first 16 clauses of Article I, section 8 of the Constitution.

I believe that it is wrong to deny U.S. citizens living under the U.S. flag the right to vote for Senators and Representatives or the other benefits of statehood. However, that does not mean that the best solution is to grant statehood to a “city-state” with a tiny (and dropping) population and even tinier landmass. Besides, DC Statehood would be political suicide for the Republican Party. Unlike Puerto Rico (a U.S. territory since 1898), which has both the area (3,515 square miles) and population (around 3.9 million) to become a state, and whose socially conservative, economically liberal electorate is more similar to that of Louisiana (which voted twice for George W. Bush and has voted for the winner in every presidential election since 1972) than to that of any other state, DC voters would in all certainty elect 2 liberal Democrats to the Senate and 1 liberal Democrat to the House and continue to cast their 3 electoral votes for the Democrats. So the only three certain things in life are death, taxes, and the GOP opposing any attempts at granting statehood to the District of Columbia. Since it would require a Constitutional amendment for DC to become a state (for one thing, the 23rd Amendment, which granted the presidential vote to DC residents, would need to be repealed), the GOP can effectively block DC Statehood even if its numbers in Congress are down to just 1/3 of the members in one of the two houses.

So how then can we do justice for the residents of the District of Columbia? For years, I was of the opinion that DC should return to the State of Maryland, from whence it came, and that the federal buildings that were carved out from the proposed “State of New Columbia” by DC Statehood proponents could become the “district of government” described in Article I, section 8, clause 17 of the Constitution (but that any residents of those parts of the city will be deemed to be residents of Maryland for all purposes; we would need a “clean-up” amendment to make clear that the reduced DC no longer gets 3 electoral votes). However, I was troubled by the fact that such a move would give the Democrats a lock on the Maryland governorship and on its (newly increased) 11 electoral votes, although since Maryland is never in play in a close election, and since the Democrats would no longer get 3 electoral votes from DC, it would be a net loss of 2 EVs for the Democrats in almost every case (since DC got the presidential vote in 1964, the only times the GOP managed to carry Maryland, but would not have carried the “new Maryland,” were in its electoral landslide elections of 1984 and 1988; in 1972, Nixon would have carried MD even had they thrown in the DC votes).

But given the fact that the State of Maryland would probably not accept sole responsibility over Washington, DC, and since such a solution may not be acceptable to proponents of DC statehood (who would want DC residents to have a greater say in Senate, gubernatorial and presidential elections than they would in Baltimore-centered Maryland), I changed my mind a couple of years ago and now advocate that Washington, DC (minus the aforementioned federal buildings) be combined with its close-in suburban counties in Maryland and Virginia to become the State of New Columbia. The suburbs that I would append to DC are (i) Montgomery and Prince George’s Counties from Maryland and (ii) Fairfax and Arlington Counties and the cities of Alexandria, Fairfax and Falls Church from Virginia.

This larger State of New Columbia, which would include most of the Washington suburban population, and thus provide a good tax base for the state (a major problem for DC is its inability to levy a “commuter tax” on residents of MD and VA that work in the District), would have 8 electoral votes (same as the smaller MD and 3 fewer than the smaller VA) and would be heavily Democrat (although there would probably be one GOP-leaning congressional district in southern Fairfax County). The smaller Virginia would be safely Republican, since Democrats can’t hope to carry the state without their usual margins in the DC suburbs, and the smaller Maryland would lean Republican, although it would not be a slam dunk if the Baltimore suburbs vote Democrat like they did in 2000.

The new Maryland would be very comparable to Pennsylvania in presidential elections, although usually a few points more Republican. In the presidential election of 2004, the smaller MD would have given George W. Bush 50.52% to John Kerry’s 48.29%, so it would be about 2% more Republican than PA. In 2000, Al Gore would have had a 50.45%-46.25% victory over George W. Bush, almost identical to the results in Pennsylvania). In 1996, Bill Clinton would have carried the state with only 49.00%, to Bob Dole’s 42.39% and Ross Perot’s 7.65%-—slightly more Republican (and less Democrat) than Pennsylvania. And in 1992, Clinton would have won with only 45.41%, to 38.40% for George H.W. Bush and 15.82% for Perot-—again, more Republican than Pennsylvania. So in presidential elections, the smaller MD would be a swing state so long as the Baltimore suburbs lean Democrat. This new MD would be a smaller version of PA if the state ended just east of the easternmost Pittsburgh suburbs, with Baltimore a smaller Philly, the Baltimore suburbs a smaller version of the Philly suburbs, and with the outstate areas (the Eastern Shore, the Panhandle and what’s left of the Southern MD) as Republican as the Pennsylvania “T.” But in gubernatorial elections, it would be much more Republican, since Republican Bob Ehrlich would have expanded his slim 3% victory to a 59.44%-39.75% drubbing of Kathleen Kennedy Townsend in 2002, and since Republican Ellen Sauerbrey would have narrowly defeated Parris Glendening in the 1998 race in which Glendening won reelection by 10% (of course, had Montco and PG County not been part of MD in 1994, Sauerbrey would have defeated Glendening in a landslide that year).

So we would go from a current scenario in which 13 EVs are around 70% likely to go to the GOP (Virginia, which gave Bush an 8.20% victory margin in 2004), 10 EVs are around 15% likely to go to the GOP (Maryland, which gave Kerry a 12.98% margin in 2004) and 3 EVs are 0% likely to go to the GOP (DC, which gave Kerry a whopping 79.84% margin in 2004), to one in which 11 EVs are around 90% likely to go to the GOP (the new VA, which would have given Bush a 13.90% margin in 2004), 8 EVs are around 55% likely to go to the GOP (the new MD, which would have given Bush 2.23% margin in 2004) and 8 EVs are 0% likely to go to the GOP (the State of New Columbia, which would have given Kerry a 38.31% margin in 2004). If my assumptions are correct, then the expected electoral votes for the MD-DC-VA region are currently 10.6 for the GOP and 15.4 for the Democrats; in 2004, it was 13 for Bush and 13 for Kerry, but Virginia has been trending Democrat over the past decade due to heavy growth in Democrat Northern Virginia, so it could swing to 26 for the Democrats and 0 to the GOP in 10 years or so. On the other hand, the Republican Party would have 14.3 expected EVs should the DC metro area become the State of New Columbia to only 12.7 for the Democrats, and in 2004 Bush would have won 19 EVs to Kerry’s 8.

Not only would the GOP be far better off in presidential elections, the GOP would be guaranteed to win the governorship of VA and would be strongly favored in MD, and would surely win both Senate seats from VA and at least one Senate seat from MD, with a strong likelihood of having 4 GOP Senators to 2 Democrat Senators in the region, as opposed to 2 basically safe Democrats (notwithstanding Lt. Gov. Michael Steele, who’s got a good chance at pulling off an upset in the 2006 MD Senate election) and 2 potentially vulnerable Republicans today). I think it would be a good deal both for the Republican Party and the disenfranchised residents of the District of Columbia, and would be an acceptable amendment for 2/3 of the House and Senate and 3/4 of the states. The trick will be to convince the people of Virginia and Maryland that they can live without the taxes they collect in the DC suburbs.

http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/2005/08/fair-and-reasonable-alternative-to-dc.html


162 posted on 11/08/2012 6:27:35 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: BunnySlippers; All

They voted 75 percent for Obama.

Sorry Puerto Rico. No.


163 posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:05 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Straight Vermonter
I was talking about the political culture. France and Spain were quite different in the colonial era even if both were Catholic countries. After 1700 Spain had a Bourbon king but the patterns of colonial government were set in the 1500s.

Florida, Texas, and California all belonged to Spain but had small populations when the Americans from the US began to flood those places, and the political institutions and legal institutions were imported from the older states of the US, going back to the English experience and English common law. I don't know about New Mexico--it could be a partial exception since there was a larger Spanish population there in 1848.

The Louisiana Purchase territory had been under Spanish rule for about 40 years but I think the traditions there were mostly French.

164 posted on 11/08/2012 6:33:05 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: proudtexasmama

I love the island and am of partial descent myself. I would be thrilled to move there.


165 posted on 11/08/2012 6:36:56 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Great idea. 3 million more socialist voters in the voting booths.

You are assuming too much.

Not all Puerto Ricans think alike, and not all of them vote the same.

Fortuno, a republican, would not have become governor if there hadn't been enough republicans to vote him in.

Plus...

The direction in which the U.S. has been headed, meaning, socialism, has happened without too much input from the people in Puerto Rico, so, in general, what plagues the U.S. is a problem with much deeper roots than whatever Puerto Ricans decide.

I don't live in Puerto Rico, but, I was born there, and I served in the U.S. military honorably. I will always be voting as an American, and not as a Puerto Rican or a Hispanic. Whenever I meet any Hispanic, Puerto Rican or otherwise, I try to convince them that, they're actually voting against their own well-being and futures by voting for democrats.

Puerto Ricans aren't any different from the rest of the U.S., and if they can vote for a republican in Puerto Rico, they can vote for a republican in country-wide elections.
166 posted on 11/08/2012 6:37:39 AM PST by adorno
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I believe the residency of the citizens of Washington DC should fall with whatever state originated their home address, but that the district itself should be kept, policed, and governed by the US government, as prescribed in the constitution. That way each resident would have both House and Senate representation and the burden of financing the district would belong with the federal government.


167 posted on 11/08/2012 6:50:22 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: wardaddy
Right on.

Saddle up boys.

168 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:35 AM PST by blam
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To: MinorityRepublican

Collect them all!


169 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:47 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Collect them all!


170 posted on 11/08/2012 6:55:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Funny...I’m looking for a state that wants to leave the union. If Texas ever opts out i’ll be there! America is now more of an ideal than an actuality. We need someplace where that ideal can be replanted and allowed to flourish.


171 posted on 11/08/2012 7:09:06 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: xzins

What do you mean by “whatever state originated their home address”? Many DC residents have never lived anywhere else.

We could do something similar and say that residents of DC shall be deemed residents of MD (while keeping the city under federl control), but it would result in MD becoming hopelessly Democrat, and Baltimore becoming largely irrelevant in the state, without the benefit of VA becoming safely Republican. Besides, do you really need the feds to govern over residential areas in DC? We just need to keep the feds in charge of the government buildings and monuments, areas that I would propose be excluded from a State of New Columbia.


172 posted on 11/08/2012 7:13:03 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: celtic gal

Congress has to approve it first.


173 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:24 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: sean327

Sean327, I honor you for being a conservative Hispanic. But so few Hispanics are. Do you really believe that Puerto Rico will support conservative causes? Please educate me on this matter.


174 posted on 11/08/2012 7:19:41 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A done deal; Newton Gingrich endorsed this c. 1997.


175 posted on 11/08/2012 7:24:58 AM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting.)
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To: pgkdan

No state will ever secede again; secession was declared unconstitutional c. 1871, I believe; Social Security and other popular programs will keep all states on board.


176 posted on 11/08/2012 7:27:11 AM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting.)
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To: nevergore

“Looks like I’ve been wrong....”

YES, you certainly were. You took my post serious and personal.

As for all those things you are famous for, well, uh, I am very impressed. Heck, I am a complete failure in life. I live in a small hut deep in a forest and I am typing this from a stolen laptop. However, I am a proud man of the world, in that I have hitchhiked to Disneyland 3 times... sorry, I started to brag.

Well, you have a nice day. Oh, I do love your cigars.


177 posted on 11/08/2012 7:30:42 AM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: sean327

“Puerto Rico has a Republican gov. The one thing I dislike about FR is the constant bashing of Hispanics. There are many of us who are Conservatives, and many more who have served this country honorably in the military.”

Their Republican Governor, Luis Fortuno, was voted out of office two days ago.


178 posted on 11/08/2012 7:33:27 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: JohnD9207
How about making PR the 50th state and Texas will just bow out

That sounds like a plan! just wish it wasn't so darned hot!

179 posted on 11/08/2012 7:37:36 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: Hedra

The Constitution calls for representation based on population but does not limit the number of seats in the House.


180 posted on 11/08/2012 7:40:18 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: wardaddy
You keep hours, that I can only keep, these days, if I am on a vacation. But more power to you.

On the Puerto Rico question, why don't you cite Jefferson, who was not against anyone because of their ethnicity, but understood that there was a great disadvantage in confusing Anglo & Hispanic cultures & societies. The reason he cut a Constitutional corner--the one time--was for the Louisiana Purchase, which he justified as necessary to put a buffer between the Amglo coast States & the Hispanic part of the New World.

I believe that I went into this, a bit in a response to George W. Bush on immigration. (Answer To President Bush On Immigration)

If the discussion is not in that essay, it is certainly in one of the links from that essay. (And I am sure you realize that Thomas Jefferson was somewhat smarter than George W. Bush.)

Now specific to Puerto Rico: Is there any discussion in Puerto Rico, today, from which one can infer that they both understand & would defend the principles of the Federal Constitution?

I do not mean giving lip service to what some Leftist pundit suggests was the intent. I mean an actual functional understanding & support for limited Federal Government, with virtually all social issues left to the States. For that is what the Constitution provides. Even the one social issue, sound money, that the Constitution does address, is primarily enforced by the provision that no State can make anything but gold or silver coin a legal tender for payment of debt (Art. I, Sec. 10), which has been effectively rendered unenforceable, as a result of the Federal failure to perform the functional monetary role that it was given, as expected.)

I have nothing against Puerto Ricans. But that does not mean that they are inter-changeable with Americans or any other people; anymore than we are inter-changeable with any other people. The idea of trying to amalgamate the peoples of the earth, in my opinion, is an insult to the peoples of the earth.

William Flax

181 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:08 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: TwelveOfTwenty; sean327

Just what ARE so-called “Hispanics”?

Is it the Castilian Spanish language, but not the Basque language of Spain? Is it the ‘z’ in the last name? Is it Latinos, but not the original Latins, the Italians? Is it Brazilians, but not Spainards? Is it Cameron Diaz, but not a Peruvian Indian named Jorge or Japanese Peruvian named Alberto Fujimori?

Or is it an erroneously created ethnonym so government mandarins and their progessive enablers in the grievance lobby can arbitarily lump together a heterogenous group of people (see: “Asians”) for the ease of making assumptions and dolling out entitlements and unfounded affirmative action chits in exchange for votes?


182 posted on 11/08/2012 7:51:43 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: Verginius Rufus

I think Lousiana is the only State that doesn’t base their legal system on English Common Law.


183 posted on 11/08/2012 8:01:41 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Interesting ideas.

I don't like "New Columbia" as the name. Where is "Old Columbia"? Besides, it would have the same initials as North Carolina. Plus, it brings back memories of Jesse Jackson advocating statehood for DC under that name--it's tainted by association with him.

Why not just "Columbia"?

184 posted on 11/08/2012 8:09:05 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Cronos
Vermont.. province of Canada” — you may have missed the election trends in Canada. the Canucks voted for a conservative party and moved hard right. Now they have lower corporate taxes than we have...

And the average Canadian is $40,000 better off than the average Ameerican.

185 posted on 11/08/2012 8:10:49 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: Gator113

Well, there is two things we can agree about....

One, not to tkae you seriously....

Two, Cuban cigars.....

BTW, I left off one of my greatest accomplishments....

Long distance swimming, it’s a Cuban heritage requirement....


186 posted on 11/08/2012 8:16:02 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Under the current system, it will be just another million mouths to feed.


187 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:31 AM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I was on WMAL this morning with Brian Wilson talking about this (at about 6:20am) — talking about DC and Puerto Rico statehood...

:-)

Best to you and Mrs. S....


188 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:16 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Make it a State! When 54 percent vote to join the USA when our economy is dying, well that is a good sign. They have a Pro Republican Governor ....thats another sign. Very Catholic, should be accepting of a Pro Life message...IF WE CAN FIND REPUBLICANS WHO CAN ARTICULATE WHY THEY ARE PROLIFE, BESIDES JUST SAYING “I’M PRO LIFE”.

If we can’t defend it, we should promote it.

And definately if we defend it, we should stand and defend those who do.


189 posted on 11/08/2012 9:04:28 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Make it a State! When 54 percent vote to join the USA when our economy is dying, well that is a good sign. They have a Pro Republican Governor ....thats another sign. Very Catholic, should be accepting of a Pro Life message...IF WE CAN FIND REPUBLICANS WHO CAN ARTICULATE WHY THEY ARE PROLIFE, BESIDES JUST SAYING “I’M PRO LIFE”.

If we can’t defend it, we should promote it.

And definately if we defend it, we should stand and defend those who do.


190 posted on 11/08/2012 9:04:46 AM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: wardaddy

Excellent post. So much so, in fact, I’m gonna read it again.....


191 posted on 11/08/2012 9:16:09 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (The idiocracy has come home to roost. God help us.)
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To: sean327

“Puerto Rico has a Republican gov. The one thing I dislike about FR is the constant bashing of Hispanics. There are many of us who are Conservatives, and many more who have served this country honorably in the military.”

Just to let you know, there’s at least one non-Hispanic basher here. I have a great deal of respect for the Hispanics in my neck of Colorado and like them very much as a people. I have Hispanic friends and do lots of business with them. Quite frankly, I don’t really think about it that much.

And yes, there’s plenty of conservative Hispanics here, but unfortunately, there’s even more Obamabot Hispanics as well.


192 posted on 11/08/2012 9:26:19 AM PST by catnipman
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To: MinorityRepublican

Personally I think they could take Oklahoma and Texas spot....And then we could become the country of Texoma.


193 posted on 11/08/2012 9:31:11 AM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: nevergore

LOL.... I would have used a boat.


194 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:08 AM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: sean327; CaptainKrunch
The one thing I dislike about FR is the constant bashing of Hispanics. There are many of us who are Conservatives, and many more who have served this country honorably in the military.

Well said!

FWIW, talking about military service I believe as a % of the military more medals for valor have been awarded to Puerto Ricans than any other ethnic group.

195 posted on 11/08/2012 10:42:46 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Verginius Rufus

I chose New Columbia specifically because it could draw in supporters of the old Jesse Jackson plan for DC statehood, and similarly would exclude federal areas from its territory. For this idea to fly, we’re going to need to get support from the DC statehood folks, and if choosing the same name that Jesse selected helps us with that, I’m all for it.

I hadn’t thought of the NC abbreviation thing—you’re right, that might be a problem. I don’t like the name State of Columbia, because not only will it create confusion with the Republic of Colombia (it’s not as much of a problem with Georgia because the Caucasus are so far away), but I would always associate it with the Columbia River, which is in the State of Washington (making it even more confusing). Maybe the State of Potomac (postal abbreviation PO)?


196 posted on 11/08/2012 11:00:48 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: sean327

Who is “bashing” Hispanics?

PR has a history of being solidly in the liberal/democrat camp.

Who do their non-voting reps to the House caucus with?

Illegal aliens. . .you bet, we are against that. . .too include ALL illegal aliens.

Hispanics that vote slavishly for the democrats just because they are democrat, and we object, and that makes us Hispanic-bashers?


197 posted on 11/08/2012 11:34:06 AM PST by Hulka
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To: CaptainKrunch; SilvieWaldorfMD

Reagan was in favor of it, I was about 25 years ago but I do not want to have two more Dem Senators.


198 posted on 11/08/2012 11:38:53 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: MinorityRepublican

What does it mean to be a state? America is one big state at the whim of a quasi-dictator and his merry band of quasi-media meatheads and g’ment hacks.


199 posted on 11/08/2012 11:39:46 AM PST by Leep (Are you smarter than a 7th grade math student and or Barack 0bama?)
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To: cll

In my current mood, I’m ready to declare independence myself.

Still, PR is one of the most beautiful places in the world. If you’re crazy enough to want to be a state, welcome.


200 posted on 11/08/2012 11:46:59 AM PST by marron
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