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To: dennisw

Folks can split these hairs for the next four years, but they continually fail to point out a few very important facts.

The white votes for and opposed to Obama and Dims in general are clustered in different regions of the US. Ohio is 81% non-Hispanic white. Pennsylvania is 79%. That’s more than enough whites to have gone for Romney, but those states didn’t.

Most northern states range from around 80% up to 95% non-Hispanic whites, but they almost always vote for the Dim presidential candidate. The 41% of whites that Dims still win are largely concentrated in states with large white majorities that continue to be reliably Dim: all of New England, the Pacific NW, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, and scattered other states.

This obsession with Latino votes won’t put many new states in the Republican column, if any. And a pandering strategy will cause more whites to stay home than it would win new Latino voters.

Some Republicans just can’t realize that effectively selling their message to all voters is the only winning strategy. Or maybe big enough and predictable second term failures by Obama will swing enough votes back to the party.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 5:48:38 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88
The white votes for and opposed to Obama and Dims in general are clustered in different regions of the US. Ohio is 81% non-Hispanic white. Pennsylvania is 79%. That’s more than enough whites to have gone for Romney, but those states didn’t.

Unions. Many of these people were directly affected by the GM/Chrysler bailout and voted for Obambi because of that. They also know deep down that GM will have to declare bankruptcy again and they expect another illegal bailout via the theft of our money and the second trashing of bankruptcy law. It is in their personal interest as they do not want to be jobless and possibly homeless. I do not blame them but I do blame the decades long union and government collaboration. The corrupt unions and the corrupt politicians made their deals knowing the workers would be forever in debt to them for their livelihoods and would be a solid voting block for the leftists.

The union leaders got to plunder the coffers of their unions they gave part of that to the politicians. The workers do get the benefits of being over paid for their level of effort and thus MUST support the corrupt unions and their paid politicians.

I grew up in a UAW dominated city. The people who worked on the line were mostly the ones who barely graduated high school and walked into the line jobs in the auto factories. They were paid quite well, did not have to worry about politics, had enough money to buy their boats, dirt bikes, ATV's,homes, and travel every summer weekend north to the woods to play.

Great life until the fiscal reality comes crashing down and then they are too tied to the unions not to vote for Socialism/Communism. They do not want to lose everything.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 6:10:05 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: Will88

Nobody in FR and GOP want to address the Ron Paul voters. Changing rules and interferring in state primary where Ron Paul won delegates, and changing the rules for future primaries during the convention to make it even harder for Ron Paul voters to get delegates in state primaries pissed many of them off to the point they voted Third Party or stayed home. Other fraction GOP establishment marginalized was the Christian Coalition types. They were told to keep low key. Less people voted in 2012 compared to 2008 and even 2004. RINO are beholden to Chamber of Commerce and Free Traitors, thus spinning the loss on lack of Hispanic voters (ala Illegal Immigration Amnesty needed, more cheap labor for jobs that cannot be moved overseas) will fill the pockets of these business types and add another death knell to the middle class/Main Street GOP/America.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 6:18:46 AM PST by Fee
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