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GOP Turns Sure Victory into Defeat
Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2011 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:03:34 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: LeonardFMason

Newsflash: there is no such thing as a Latino, or a Latino vote. There are a lot of Mexicans, who won’t vote for Rubio because he is an anti-Castro Cuban. Ted Cruz is also Cuban - and White, very, very White, and the Indian Mexicans won’t support him - they were not who voted for him in Texas.”Latinos” are not an indifferentiated mass like the blacks. There are white, black, Indian and mixed blood Latinos. They.are from different countries. They eat different food. They listen to different music. They follow different sports teams. They don’t live in the same neighborhoods. Please understand, everyone, that it is counterproductive imbecilic reductionistic racism to talk about a Latino vote, especially when citing two politicians who are not Dems because they are the children of refugees from communism, they are not the children of immigrants. The children of immigrants are not going to vote for them.


61 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:52 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: chimera

The Republicans lost at least three house races due to Libertarian candidates in Arizona and Utah where their votes were 3-6 percent of the totals:

Jonathan Paton AZ-1, lost 45.4-48.6 percent, Libertarian 5.9%
Vernon Parker AZ-9, lost 46.1-47.4 percent, Libertarian 6.3%
Mia Love, UT-4, lost 48.1-49.3 percent, Libertarian 2.6%


62 posted on 11/08/2012 9:07:02 AM PST by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty good article, hits the nail on the head.


63 posted on 11/08/2012 9:07:27 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: zt1053
I like Michael Reagan but I don’t think he is right here. Republicans governors now account for 2/3 of the governorships. Republicans are making gains at state levels

Correct.

It will be interesting to see how the Governors react to Federal over-reach.

This could be grassroots in action...the very thing conservatives claim to have wanted for many years.

64 posted on 11/08/2012 9:08:00 AM PST by what's up
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To: CedarDave
Do you think that Libertarian vote would automatically go to the ‘Pub candidate? Would those Lib voters simply sit out the race if there were not a Lib candidate on the ticket? Would they have voted ‘Rat if there were not a Lib choice? If your point is that a third party candidate is more often a spoiler than anything else I would agree. The question is, a spoiler for which of the main party candidates? I remember John Anderson in ‘80 and people said he hurt Carter more than Reagan. In ‘92 Perot was viewed as a dagger in Bush I’s back. So I am wondering where the chips fell in the cases you mentioned.
65 posted on 11/08/2012 9:15:41 AM PST by chimera
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To: napscoordinator

No,you’re letting your inane bias get in the way of logic.

Mitt got the votes to win, but manipulation by the usual thugs obscured his victory to keep the marxist islamist terrorist in office.

that makes sensible Americans the victim.


66 posted on 11/08/2012 9:23:30 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kaslin

I still think Sandy and her fall-out were the result of the loss, the media took the opportunity to use it and Christie’s backstab (I hope he’s happy now). Remember Romney was up 5-7 pts in the polls before sandy struck. But then I don’t think anybody anticipated Obamas ground forces. Lastly it didn’t help that Romney refused to hold O’s feet to the fire over Benghazi. Benghazi should have been to Romney at least what Sandy was to O.


67 posted on 11/08/2012 9:24:50 AM PST by Proudcongal
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To: babble-on

No, we are not talking about a misdemeanor crime. All immigration violations, if prosecuted, are felonies


68 posted on 11/08/2012 9:28:38 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: chimera
If your point is that a third party candidate is more often a spoiler than anything else I would agree. The question is, a spoiler for which of the main party candidates?

In the case of Mia Love in Utah, she is a conservative (who also happens to be Black). She spoke at the RNC and was interviewed at least once on Mark Levin's show. I don't know about the Arizona candidates - but 5-6 percent in those races and the closeness otherwise indicates they had the effect of spoiler.

69 posted on 11/08/2012 9:29:13 AM PST by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: TigerClaws
What changed? Demographics. Look at the projections for the next 50 years. We’re on the way to Whig party status.

No, we're on the way to economic collapse and social chaos.

The "takers" cannot outnumber the "makers" for long, before there's nothing left to take.

70 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: HangingTuff
I still believe what Miit Romney said is true, we are becoming a nation of takers not makers. I don’t know if 47percent is accurate but it probably is close.

I am seriously concerned that the number is greater than 50%. Seriously: many government employees are counted as "employed", but are essentially "takers". Welfare case workers, regulatory bureaucrats and the like are examples. They live off the taxpayers, but unlike military personnel, intelligence agents, and the like they provide nothing in return.

71 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:20 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BitWielder1

I absolutely hate to say what I’m about to say, but here it is.

There will be no next time, not till after guns go silent.
This was no less than Great October Revolution by forces of Comintern. Russia was ripe for takeover by Internationalists because of inept rulers at the time.

Inept Congress will be a small bump on the road to Phase II of what failed in Russia.

The only advantage America would have, is educated populace, who would quickly neutralize Reds.

Unfortunately with “football” Nation that is not the case.
And so it will start. When? Heaven knows. But it will, unless of course ignorance and Hollywood/NFL will lead America by the hand into the darkness from which few will return.

Hit the books friends, kill your TV’s. And prepare.


72 posted on 11/08/2012 9:36:41 AM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: First_Salute

Bingo! It was Bush who coined the term “VooDoo Economics” and he sured liked to say “New world order”. Had Reagan not succumb to the pressure to put Bush on the ticket we would never have heard of the rest of the Bushes.

In 2008 there were those of us yelling THIRD PARTY! But everyone said “LET’S FIX THE GOP FROM WITHIN!”. In 2010 we voted some “tea party” favorites into office but everyone said “It’s too late to form a third party.” I think now is the time to get started. I will never vote for another republican. So if there’s no other choice, then I’ll stay at home.


73 posted on 11/08/2012 9:38:41 AM PST by Terry Mross (Once again I wasted my vote. But I have learned my lesson.)
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To: LeonardFMason
Obama won because he got more of his drones to vote.

And his minions found a way to delay hundreds of thousands of military absentee ballots, thus invalidating them.

74 posted on 11/08/2012 9:51:41 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: babble-on
As long as our party is anti-immigrant we will lose national elections by increasing margins.

We have NEVER been anti-immigrant. We have been anti ILLEGAL immigrant. There is a difference.

75 posted on 11/08/2012 9:55:11 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: kabumpo

I know nothing about the Latino culture, but what you say rings true to me. Another thread featured an article where they said that Mexican “Family values” meant helping people with a larger government safety net....ie.....natural Democrats.

All that being said:

Don’t you think that having a candidate who could make commercials and go on Telemundo speaking in the native tongue would sway a certain percentage of the Latino and “White Guilt Liberal” vote?


76 posted on 11/08/2012 9:55:20 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Venturer
The GOP coalition is in tattlers.
We have fiscal conservatives, social conservatives, libertarians, moderate republicans, establishment republicans, and assorted others.

None of these groups is large enough to win on their own.
What has happened as the party sees itself losing elections is that they have begun to call out each other as being the problem. Some are refusing to turn out unless they get everything their way.

This time we had millions of members not show up to vote, and we lost again.
We are either going to find a crossover candidate that appeals to everyone, if that is still possible, or reconfigure the coalition.

77 posted on 11/08/2012 10:06:09 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: Kaslin

all talk.. no guts..

ditch MItch and Boehner too.

make my day. please.


78 posted on 11/08/2012 10:19:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: CedarDave

From your numbers, it looks like Love lost by 1.2%, with the Lib vote at 2.6%. If those Lib voters simply stayed home, it would not have helped Love. Looks like she’d have to take 75% of the Lib vote to overtake her opponent, assuming he/she got the other 25%. I don’t know if there are any hard and fast numbers as to how people who vote Lib might otherwise cast their ballots. I’ve seen them go either way.


79 posted on 11/08/2012 10:26:58 AM PST by chimera
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To: Republic Rocker

> just NOT in VOGUE here to even say Republican.

My co-workers call you “republican” if you do something stupid or if they think you’re being unkind.


80 posted on 11/08/2012 10:27:18 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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