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What are our options?
Self | 08 November 2012 | Self

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

OK, so Obama was re-elected on Tuesday. What are our options?

  1. Bend over and just take it. We wait for four years and try to elect someone who is closer to us in political outlook and perspective. We pay our taxes, call in to conservative talk radio shows, get our grievances off our collective chest. We suck it up and work from the inside to change the system.

    However, it took the liberals 80 years of promising free stuff to lazy people in order to make it happen. As conservatives, we will not promise them free stuff. We merely promise them a chance to work hard for a possibility of getting ahead. That is not a recipe for garnering votes from at least half of the people. We will never re-gain our country from within. Ever.

  2. Go with the the flow. This option is different, and may not sit well with most people. Vote for the worst leaders we can--Bernie Sanders, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Maxine Waters, Biden, Reid, Pelosi. Support them in everything they do. Drive this country into the ground as fast as we can. When we've totally destroyed what's left of this wonderful place, we can begin the re-building process--hopefully with more support than we have now.

  3. Fire our employees and become one of the takers. “Show them they can't take from us.” Go Galt. Shrug. Whatever you want to call it. Get off the grid and starve the beast. This option only lasts as long as the government is willing to tolerate you. Once enough people are doing this, they will decide to gather you back in to the fold or kill you. That is a real option. It may work for you, but it will not change this country.

  4. Secede. Our country is gone. This is the most difficult—both physically and emotionally. Physically because, as we all know, The Federal government will not take secession lying down. They will come after those who attempt to leave and it won't be pretty. For those who believe that your fellow citizens won't fire on you, think again. People under authority, and people under orders do things they strongly disagree with merely because someone in authority has told them to do it. It has been proven multiple times in the lab and in the field. It will also be difficult emotionally. This is our country. We would be destroying something wonderful that was founded over 200 years ago. Unfortunately, that country no longer exists, and hasn't for about 80 years or more—since the New Deal was legislated into law. The big decision each one of us has to make is--”Am I willing to sacrifice everything I have and hold dear for a non-guaranteed attempt to bring our country back?” That sacrifice will come—it's not just a possibility.

So. Those are the options as I currently see them to change our country. I am not forgetting prayer. This is something we all must do regardless of the choice(s) we make above. Option 1 is obviously the easiest. We don't have to change our lives, or actually do anything different. Just complain and bend over as they continue to come at us. Option 3 is the most difficult. I am not charismatic. I could not persuade people to join me or any cause I support. It must be started and led by people much better at that than I am.


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1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:12:02 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: ShadowAce

Work to make America strong and capable.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 7:13:49 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: ShadowAce

Get some more Tea Party legislators elected in 2014 midterms.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 7:14:36 AM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

work to make yourself and your family strong and capable

consumerism sucks- wean yourself off of it


4 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: ShadowAce

Keep pushing forward and work on the midterms.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:24 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: ShadowAce

Starve the useless Beast that is our government. Take maximum payroll deductions. Then in April file an extension. Then file another extension. Don’t pay them.

Avoid taxes of any kind as much as you can. If millions did this would could really make them hurt within a year.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 7:18:32 AM PST by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Rio; silverleaf; Gene Eric

As expected (I am not denigrating you guys), most people are going to choose option 1. Work from within and try to vote for the people we want.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 7:20:28 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Fight, flight, or surrender.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 7:20:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: ShadowAce

Survival mode, refuse to empower the takers.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:24 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: ShadowAce

#5 - Become personally self-reliant (yourself & your family ... neighbors if they are of the same mind). A huge collapse is coming & only the self-reliant will survive. We’re over the cliff, Obama was re-elected Captain of the Titanic. Romney only would have slowed things down. Take heart, and find your hope and strength in the Lord Jesus Christ because He is coming back sooner than many people are willing to recognize or accept. IF there is time, those who survive the collapse may be able to start rebuilding the country out of the ashes/rubble ....


10 posted on 11/08/2012 7:22:36 AM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: ShadowAce

Elect members of your state legislature hell bent on opposing everything out of DC. Control 2/3rds of them, and the federal government is powerless.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 7:23:01 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ShadowAce

Let Iran go nuclear.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 7:23:37 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: MissMagnolia

Either take over the GOP for real.

Or move to a new party.

This is absurd.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 7:24:40 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: ShadowAce; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
Here is my opinion I been posting, re-edited for your vanity

You see the market reaction to his win?
Wouldnt it make sense for the House to not pass any tax cut extensions or spending cut repeals that Reid can get through the Senate? In other words :no more closed room deals?
Take a hard line but dont brag about it in public, just do it. In public talk about how O is in charge of everything.

Having won the election O is free to work with Boehner to do stuff that his lib base opposes like entitlement reform ..as Clinton did.
If this is the path he takes House Republicans could work to make him look like a bipartision success, as with Clinton. I really think this would be a disaster for this country

The Bush blame excuse ended on Os successful election day as O inherits his own accomplishments and so working with him to make him look successful seems self defeating, unless Boeher gets a really sweet deal. Like something O specifically campaigned against and his base absolutely hates.

And stop the Rs public statements that telegraph their punches, like bragging that they wont do stuff that they are forced to cave on later anyway. This was the behavior of delusional losers.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 7:24:40 AM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: Rio
Nothing more can be done through the ballot box. Every year there will be more and more parasites on the rolls. It's over folks. Think about the elections in Cuba. Funny, Castro always got 95% of the vote. Think about elections in the former Soviet Union. The Premier always got 95% of the vote. Think about the elections in Iraq when Sadam was alive and well. He always got 95% of the vote. See where this is going? Tea Party members will be laughed at by the likes of Boehner or other RINOs in Congress. They are all the permanent criminal class. Nothing more, nothing less.
15 posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:11 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: ShadowAce

the Democrat “base” is bigger than the Republican “base” because of the press. So running to get the “base” to turn out and not attracting anybody who is not a rank and file conservative.......isn’t going to win certain states where there is no conservative base beyond maybe 15% of registered voters......By picking Paul Ryan, Romney took on the baggage of the Republican congress with its 10% approval rating, stopped being an outsider governor, and ran AS Paul Ryan in the general election. He lost some of the more moderate and anti-war/miltary Republicans and the deficit hawks and turned off independents , who didn’t vote at all because he didn’t have a credible plan to reduce the deficit. And when paying a 14% tax rate is an issue and you are running to reduce your tax rate to ZERO, then you stir up the left wing “base” to vote against you.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 7:26:52 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: ShadowAce
Ridiculous. Whatever you're smoking it's clouded your thinking. The GOP is DOA my friend,...and us along with it. What are you going to do? There are NOW more 'takers' than there are 'makers' and it will only get worse. Sky-rocketing birthrates among muslims, hispanics and blacks will overwhelm the welfare system which YOU will PAY for with ever increasing taxes.

How about that new 'Carbon Tax'? How are you going to stop it? Obama can now issue any executive order he wants and there is NO ONE in America who can prevent it.

Guns? If he doesn't attempt to CONFISCATE all guns within the next four years and outlaw their sale as well as the sale of ammunition, I will be very surprised. And he won't need Congress to do it. You think Fast and Furious was just a joke? It had a specific purpose and he will not let it die! Besides, a populace WITHOUT weapons CANNOT overthrow him.

The GOP is dead. They will NEVER ever win a national election again. The mid-term elections will certainly throw the House to the Democrats. Then, he will appoint new Leftist judges to the Supreme Court. He will then control ALL branches of government.

You're all looking at 2016 like everything is going to be normal. I would suggest to you that Obama may well NOT leave office. Forget the Constitution. It too is dead. Emperor Obama! It has a lovely ring to it doesn't it? Give it up. You and the GOP are kaput!

17 posted on 11/08/2012 7:26:56 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ShadowAce

the Democrat “base” is bigger than the Republican “base” because of the press. So running to get the “base” to turn out and not attracting anybody who is not a rank and file conservative.......isn’t going to win certain states where there is no conservative base beyond maybe 15% of registered voters......By picking Paul Ryan, Romney took on the baggage of the Republican congress with its 10% approval rating, stopped being an outsider governor, and ran AS Paul Ryan in the general election. He lost some of the more moderate and anti-war/miltary Republicans and the deficit hawks and turned off independents , who didn’t vote at all because he didn’t have a credible plan to reduce the deficit. And when paying a 14% tax rate is an issue and you are running to reduce your tax rate to ZERO, then you stir up the left wing “base” to vote against you.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 7:27:14 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: TigerClaws

Spend as little as possible and save for the collapse....and make sure you have enough cash at home to last a month or two..lots of red beans and rice..


19 posted on 11/08/2012 7:27:37 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: MissMagnolia
Every cub/boy scout knows ...

Be Prepared.

An entire structure and manual was built on that simple phrase;

Be Prepared.

For what, you might ask

Whatever you can think of, whatever anyone (whom makes sense to you) has said ...

Be Prepared.

Preppers have TONS of useful information.

20 posted on 11/08/2012 7:28:29 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Gene Eric
"Keep pushing forward and work on the midterms...."

By the way, THAT was Barry's SLOGAN! Nice one!

21 posted on 11/08/2012 7:28:44 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ShadowAce

Do we live in a dictatorship? Then why the freakin focus on 2016? What is it in this country that we are so obsessed with the top shelf?

We are right where we were in 2010. Nothing has changed. It’s called 2014 mid-terms. Get the Senate back. Force Zero to have budgets, deny his Supreme Court picks, stop his U.N. treaties cold.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 7:29:23 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: ShadowAce

When they steal elections in broad dalight working from within is kind of pointless. Going Galt doesn’t really help because they are TRYING to bring the US down. It does accelerate the process and that may choke them. Like trying to eat the whole elephant in one bite. That is my adivce. Go Galt. Starve the Beast.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 7:30:16 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ShadowAce
What are our options?

From his comments yesterday, the GOP Weeper of the House appears to have gone with Option #1 ("Bend over and just take it") Maybe Boehner can take it, but not me!

Looking at the nationwide voting map by county
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323894704578105031877259720.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read)
Option #4 ("Secede") seems logical. Apparently the vast majority of the Country has absolutely nothing in common with the people in the few counties that kept the kenyan in power.

Option #3 ("Fire our employees and become one of the takers") that won't even have to be a concious decision, but an enevitable occurence in the 0bama economy.

Option #2 ("Go with the the flow") get on board the cattle cars to the re-education camps set up by der 0berFuhrer Hussein 0bama. I'll pass on that!

24 posted on 11/08/2012 7:31:50 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: Doc Savage
The GOP is DOA my friend,...and us along with it.

That was pretty much my whole point. Did you read what I wrote?

25 posted on 11/08/2012 7:31:50 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Take back the republican party.
Expose RINOs.
Expose media bias and blatant communist journalists. Loudly.
Expose corruption. Both sides of the isle, we can't afford any.
Expose bias in education.

Republicans in the house and senate: RESIST!
You don't have to pander to Dems to "get something done" when that something will hurt the country. Whenever you "reach across the isle" you hand the Dems a victory.
Never mind what the media will say about you, they work for the opposition. Stand your ground. Gridlock is good.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 7:33:57 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Free Vulcan
Get the Senate back.

That worked well this week, didn't it?

Nothing has changed.

And it won't in 2014, either

27 posted on 11/08/2012 7:34:12 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Option #3 looks real. Go Galt. Stop pulling more and more looters in the wagon. File for benefits yourself and get in the wagon. Use Cloward Piven tactics and collapse the system in the hope, perhaps fanciful, that after the chaos something better can be built on the ruins. Alternatively, get out with your assets before Obama stops any exodus.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 7:35:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: ShadowAce

5. Start a new “Illuminati” that is very selective about it’s membership, spans the globe, and is dedicated totally to the self-interest of its membership. When you speak of the nation in which you live you refer to it simply as “my host country”.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 7:35:50 AM PST by The Duke
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To: ShadowAce

the gas chambers have been fired up and we can either fight or slowly be put on the trains to certain death. The media has won the heart and souls of the ignorant.. Until the media is neutralized. The current course of this country will not change. Is it time to do something????... .. pick a MSM outlet and boycott their sponosrs? protest? not sure...But freedom is slowly dying like the proverbial frog in the boiling water..


30 posted on 11/08/2012 7:37:22 AM PST by hippyhater
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To: bmwcyle

I like your first option.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 7:37:52 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Truth29

Dems will soon be looting the Boomer wealth. Look for estate taxes to skyrocket. Gotta spread it around, yknow. Take from the dying white America and prop up the puppet Republic.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 7:38:16 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: silverleaf

ding ding ding!

Work to make your family self-sufficient, at least to some degree, and increase that degree every chance you get.

Leftists hate non-dependent people. It seriously enrages them. I’ve had personal experience with libinlaws that have turned purple because we have more than a few days’ worth of food in our pantry. (They knew I was “dissin’” their “god” by doing so.)


33 posted on 11/08/2012 7:38:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BitWielder1
Gridlock is good.

Not for politicians.

Congress is comprised to two houses, containing 435 people whose sole job is to make laws. The more laws they enact, the more powerful they all become and the more they control.

Since they've pretty much trashed the Constitution, there is no reason for gridlock--especially for the career politician. It is their version of climbing the corporate ladder.

34 posted on 11/08/2012 7:38:57 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I think Republicans have missed the boat on a few things. The Democrats have mastered the divide and conquer strategy of promising free stuff to various groups. The Republicans only have the non-resonating message of a great country for all through capitalism and a strong defense.

Take the Democrat’s strategy away from them.

Here we have a single white woman. The Democrats promise her “free” contraception and “free” abortions. She is overjoyed. If/When she wants these things the Democrats will provide them to her. The Republicans, however, immediately get stuck in the mud by arguing the morality of her choices. Instead, the Republicans should demonstrate that the money she retains from their policies will enable her to buy all the contraceptions she wants, have 12 abortions a day and have plenty left over to donate to some breast cancer awareness charity AND put a down payment on a new car.

Here we have a black gentleman. The Democrats promise a new Bamaphome and food stamps — as long as they don’t work and vote for Democrats. The Republicans should demonstrate that they can afford a new iPhone, iPad, big screen TV and a big new house in the suburbs (not to mention a new car) if only they DO get a job. Okay, this one may be a tougher sell but they have a choice between forever being stuck in inner city slums and the possibilty of having quite a bit more.

Here you have a young college student. Demonstrate that Democrats want to give giant loans for a crappy education that will forever keep them in debt. Republicans have a vision where they could afford college on their own, get a good job, be debt free and buy all the marijuana they can smoke in Colorado.

The Republican policy is the same in each case but it plays to the different “American Dreams” each group has through free market capitalism and limited government.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 7:41:47 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: ShadowAce

You are forgetting the Almighty. HE ALWAYS GIVES YOU AT LEAST ONE RIGHT PATH. You are frustrated and sad, so you just couldn’t think of one. All of your options are somewhat bad. Secession could lead to a lot of deaths. It might be a right way but at what cost?

So far, I’ve only thought of one potential way.

Change our party. Whatever it is called, it should focus on freedom for all, under the constitution. We would need to educate everyone about the constitution, and how we have gotten away from it. Our platform will include Freedom of Lifestyle as well. People can live according to whatever, their religion, cult, guru, whim. As long as it doesn’t directly hurt someone or interfere with their freedom, anything goes. Let them marry goats if they wish. The one social issue we have is that we are pro protecting life — of the elderly, the infirm, the unborn. We focus instead on a free economy, minimal taxation, small govt, only defense stays big to protect our freedom. We cut the groupthink the dems are into, and declare that all human beings are one: no more government or public declarations of groups, creeds, or races.

I think if played right, this could work. We need to think like the founders, and add their brilliance to our current world.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:14 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: ShadowAce

“A conservative is a liberal who got mugged the night before”

That quote is where we are at right now - not enough people think they have been mugged and too many are having a ball mugging society.

We need to go to our strongholds, stop walking the ‘streets’ and let the mugging hoards attack each other - I don’t know of any other way to wake up these liberals.

Once mugged, we will be there to pick them up and explain that they just got mugged...and what needs to be done to not be a victim to the muggers again.

The streets need to be fully bloodied to take them back.

Right now the Republican party is a lack-luster ‘Neighborhood Watch’ to the government muggers and their gang - heck, most of them are ‘fencing’ the muggers goods.

Starve the Beast
Take it Back


37 posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:53 AM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: ShadowAce

Unless you want America to be like CalifornicatingU land, the rest of America needs to separate the blue state pos’s from your money.

Start a boycott, buycott or avoidcott with the Blue States.

Don’t buy a product made or raised in a blue state unless you have proof its owners are not left wingers.

Don’t vacation in, or have conventions or business meetings in, Democrat blue states. Start with Nevada until the casino bosses get rid of Reid and send him home to have more time with his family.

Don’t visit CalifornicatorU land. Don’t go to Follywood movies and stay away from our products except those produced or raised by conservatives.

Avoid NY City like it has the plague. It has the terminal Bloomberg mental illness.

The Blue Staters hate you, your religion, your belief system, and your priorities in life, like your family members and friends. Let the Blue Staters try to live without your $’s.

Let the blue states sink on their own!

Save your charity $’s for red state people when disasters hits their area.

http://boston.com/news/special/politics/2012/general/us-president-election-results-2012.html


38 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: ShadowAce

Shut down Hollywood.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 7:47:44 AM PST by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: ShadowAce

Take back the Tea Party from the groups that hijacked it (Freedom Works etc.)
go back to the grassroots that it was and not the money making machine that it is.


40 posted on 11/08/2012 7:48:44 AM PST by nandrew
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To: ShadowAce

The libs arrived where they are by fighting a long war (over 100 years). I suggest that we begin a long war to take the country back for our children and grandchildren, even though we may not see the benefits. Some things we can do:

1. Use our laws against the libs - minimize your taxes legally, unleash a firestorm of lawsuits against libs (make them spend money to defend), avoid unnecessary compliance with onerous laws and regulations.
2. Kill liberal political careers at the local level - there is no such thing as a good local Democrat politician. Today’s Democrat school board member is a future Nancy Pelosi.
3. Dig into educational institutions, culture and the arts, local and state political and government organizations.
4. Never, never, never give up.
5. Take out Dem’s everywhere we can, replace them with conservatives.
6. Ridicule liberals and liberalism at every opportunity. Make it un-cool to be liberal in your corner of the world.
7. Pray without ceasing.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 7:51:56 AM PST by TheConservativeBanker
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To: bmwcyle
Today I have decided to fight. I am beginning by firing my broker, draftsman, gardener, and housekeeper. I started with nothing, and I can do it all myself again. Next time I contract for services, it will be with people who did note vote for Obama and socialism to “get revenge” against me. I thought they were my friends and business associates. I just got educated.

And, BTW, no more black, brown, or gay people in my life. Apparently our friendship only went one way; they, according to their leader, want revenge, so I can no longer entrust anything of mine to them.

They sold my country for a cellphone and the chance to get even with me. For what? Employing them? Pitiful.

42 posted on 11/08/2012 7:52:51 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: ShadowAce

Bullcrap. You’re running on emotion fueled garbage because you want things to be as you want them. Sometimes you don’t get what you want when you want.

Let me lay it out for you sparky - Obama got lucky. They threw crap at the wall to see what stuck. And they cheated, and they barely won. There was no genius or grand strategy. People were stupid enough to buy it.

We owned 2010, we can own 2014. That reality flies in the face of your hysteria. Give up on the third party crap, I don’t know what the effing obsession you libertarians have with that, but you’ve had a third party for years and you can’t get over 5%. You think if you take control you’re gonna win elections, and frankly it isn’t going to happen.


43 posted on 11/08/2012 7:53:55 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: ShadowAce

I’m giving up on politics for a while. When the moochers, takers and lazy who want a free ride on someone else’s dime can out vote we honest American citizens, we are sunk.

It will take national economic collapse due to over spending, run away benefits and individual irresponsibility to wake up our masses. Even then we are likely to get tyranny and dictatorship, instead of a constitutional republic which defers to God’s kind rules.

Meanwhile, try to live out of the government’s evil eye, take care of yourself and those you love by staying healthy by good practices and do honest work to put bread on your table. Get a marketable skill such as plumbing, electrician, engine repair, construction, farming, or health aide rather than office work. Do side jobs for cash or barter so government can’t rob you.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 7:57:33 AM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: CCGuy
Then in April file an extension.

They still want your money by April 15. I think the extension just means you can delay sending in the paperwork.
45 posted on 11/08/2012 7:58:40 AM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Hojczyk
Spend as little as possible and save for the collapse....and make sure you have enough cash at home to last a month or two..lots of red beans and rice..

Money will only be useful for fire starter.
46 posted on 11/08/2012 8:00:26 AM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: ShadowAce

I just posted this on another thread:

There is the theory that you give him whatever he wants. And you make a HUGE deal of out it, with the caveat that he owns it.

What will that do? It will ruin the market and the economy in about six months. It will not destroy the country.

Within a short time, the outcry will come and the democrats will never win another election.

The alternative is to fight tooth and nail, and in the end the result will be the same for the economy—but the folks who are “resisting” will be blamed.

Sometimes in hand to hand, you allow the opponents momentum to carry them through to the ground. And then you take the base of your palm and shove your opponents nose through his brain.

I know this is hard to imagine...but the option to “do nothing” is ALWAYS one you should consider.


To add to this theory/option: The basis of this is that we know doing this would result in significant danger to the economy. But it would also show these folks for what they are.

I am not ADVOCATING this beyond tossing it out for discussion. I do not think many around here would see the logic in it, and it would be distasteful. But we obviously haven’t crashed hard enough yet to show how stupid Obama’s ideas are. Perhaps turning the people against the government in massive ways is the best way to win.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 8:00:33 AM PST by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: BitWielder1
Take back the republican party.

Let's see....we've been saying that for how long, now?

Expose RINO's, media bias, corruption and bias in education??

Impossible with a compliant GOPe and MSM.

FoxNews/Bretibart/Blaze, etc ALL have tried exposing Benghazigate and ALL of the lies/corruption of this regime and it doesn't seem to be having an effect on elections.

48 posted on 11/08/2012 8:01:47 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: ShadowAce
Get as far away from big cities as you can.

Pay as few taxes as you can get away with. Drive to a lower tax state a few times a year and stock up. Buy used when you can.

Starve the beast and be prepared to protect what you have when the coming collapse hits.

49 posted on 11/08/2012 8:02:46 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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