Skip to comments.Here it comes–a carbon tax
Posted on 11/08/2012 10:12:36 AM PST by chessplayer
Obama May Levy Carbon Tax to Cut the U.S. Deficit, HSBC Says
Without the House?
When do we meet in Boston to start the rebellion? It only seems fitting to begin the fight where are ancestors did.
Harry Reid is going to use the 2009 Carbon Tax Bill that was passed. How the hell can you use legislation from the archives?
Here comes funding of a World Government.
He will cap every fireplace chimney in America, what will Santa Claus do then?
talk about trying to create wealth out of thin air
All this will do is start a whole new faux useless unproductive industry of obama bundlers and enviro libs getting rich by selling other people the right to live, eat, stay warm, and work ... enviro-feudalism
I believe this “carbon exchange” is planned to be headquartered in Chicago
So he is going to try and do this through EO and the EPA? Won’t it have to be called something besides a tax?...a fee?
Forget that fat old white cracker Santa Claus. Barak is the new Santa Claus, and he don’t need no dirty chimney.
Harry Reid is a one man wrecking crew when it comes to constitutional government. Benedict Arnold-Marx Reid.
Dear Lord, How in the world will I be able to keep the curse words at a minimum for the next four years? Please help me.
Takes money from the rich and gives it to the richer, while the rest of us suffer when what is left of the free market adjusts by raising prices on everything.
The House is led by Boehner. Need we say any more. Boehner is setting up the GOP to roll over on everything. He hasn’t got the guts to face down Reid or Obama.
A courageous House speaker would pass spending bills one by one and dare the Senate to kill them. A separate bill for Defence. A separate bill for Healthcare. A separate bill for social security. Etc., etc. A line item veto in reverse. Start with the departments that are most important to Republicans and tell Obama and Reid that the next spending bill won’t be debated in the House until the first one is passed and signed into law.
also heard from little Robert Reicht that a middle income tax will come and come soon...obama will do nothing less..so get ready Middle Class...
so guess I need to get rid of TV...nothing new on...
“When do we meet in Boston to start the rebellion? It only seems fitting to begin the fight where are ancestors did.”
Given that the Bostonites have elected Fauxa-haunted-us, and also kept Dead Ted in office for years, seems we’d first have to destroy that den of idiots in order to save them.
I have no respect any longer for New England.
Carbon tax, International Arms Treaty, global internet tax...
How exactly would the President convince the House to vote for such a tax?
“A courageous House speaker would pass spending bills one by one and dare the Senate to kill them. A separate bill for Defence. A separate bill for Healthcare. A separate bill for social security. Etc., etc. A line item veto in reverse. Start with the departments that are most important to Republicans and tell Obama and Reid that the next spending bill wont be debated in the House until the first one is passed and signed into law.”
Perfect! Love it! Won’t happen, unfortunately.
It’s so easy to despise the central socialist obama regime!
DOWN WITH OBAMA! DOWN WITH COMMUNIZING THE USA!
See earlier post about the 2009 Carbon bill. They’d use an already existing piece of legislation and would interpret the ability to levy taxes from it.
Completely banana republic, which is what a majority of voters indicated they want this past Tuesday.
It beats me why the HR has not shut down this administration already just by withdrawing funding since they have to approve such funding.
So what if the Dems try to blame HR for shutting down the government, they do it all the time NOW.
..... if there are any House "staffers" watching FR, trot over to Boehnr's office and tell him to just say NO to any funding for the Exec branch save for what is absolutely necessary to keep people alive.
BTW...if there are any Freepers out there who can explain to me what precludes the HR from withdrawing funds from ANY branch of Govt...I would like to hear it....esp since there hasn't been an official budget for almost 4 years.
And every good would be more expensive!
Yes, maybe the media would blame the rich oil companies, and Obama would end up giving away money to “the poor” to help them with the costs.
But I do think the public would begin to catch on. Maybe hopelessly naive given Tuesday's results. In any event, the runaway spending will end, one way or another. Probably in an ugly way, but it will end.
If Congress does pass a bill, I’ll bet John Roberts finds a way to legitimize it. If you want to blame one person for Obama’s reelection, blame him. I hope he’s happy that he singlehandedly dismantled our republic. However, Obama will probably just do it with executive fiat, the way he’s done so many other times, or get the unelected EPA to issue an “order”.
Yes. but, you don't need to be that courageous to do this, it is logical and within their practical power. Start parsing out legislation and fixing one department/issue budget at a time, and pass lots of it. Set the agenda Republican House because if you just stand there and play defense you will get booted out in 2 years.
It won't be easy. But we have to be eternally vigilant.
The House is led by Boehner. ............etc.....He hasnt got the guts to face down Reid or Obama.
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Is the vote for Speaker open or closed?
Does one need 50+% or just enough to win?
Thought I had heard once before that they have to be ‘careful’ because the Speaker could be of the other party?
Anyway, maybe if the sitting Congressmen were put on notice - either get rid of this jerk or lose your own seat...
It is about time the the VOTERS flexed their muscles, some of these clowns get into office and FORGET they represent US, not themselves or special interests.
Does it apply to the CO2 coming out of Chris Matthews’ mouth? If so the deficit should be gone by next Christmas.
The 2009 Carbon Tax Bill is a House passed piece of legislation. It was passed in 2009.
Correcting my comment above, what would happen is Reid would put it up for a vote in the Senate, where it would pass. This is why he’s going to restrict the use of the filibuster. Once passed it would be signed by Obama.
Scary stuff. How many bills failed in the 2007 to 2011 Dem controlled House that could be ressurected and passed in this manner???
If it is "existing" legislation, why is not an Act?
I find no evidence of it yet.
and you watch- Fox news WILL NOT hardly even mention the FACT that it’s a tax o nthe middle class nor will they confront hte president and ask him why he is levying this crippling tax on the middle class-
It was proposed as an alternative to an actual direct carbon tax.
I can find no other proposed act that specifies a direct carbon tax.
Carbon Tax? I guess I’ll have to do the crossword puzzles in ink instead of pencil.
That's how they forced OBAMACARE on us.
I'm no expert, but it's my understanding from way back in my high school civics days that a bill that hasn't been passed by both houses of congress dies at the end of that congressional term and would have to be started from scratch. So therefore, any carbon bill passed by the house in 2009 would have died after when that congress ended and the next congress took over in 2011.
It is my belief that carbon trading is the reason O was pushed into the White House. It is a trillion dollar scam of the millenium. Between carbon tax, and carbon permits, and carbon credits, you have a means of total control and a fire-hose stream of money.
With that much power and that much money on the line, they will keep coming back until they get it. Any pretext is good enough.
HSBC? What do they know except how to commit fraud?
Guess I can buy some land with trees and get paid not to cut them down.
There’s another name for it: theft.
Obama can’t “levy” squat. Taxes have to come from Congress.
They’ll just pass a law saying the House vote is only a guideline and not mandatory to pass a new law. It will got to the Supreme Court and they’ll agree.
The trees were already being planted to replenish stocks that were cut down for wood. They were also sold for their carbon offset value. If they were sold multiple times it would be no surprise.
The whole program only makes sense in lala land.