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CA: 'Yes' Votes Prevail on Proposition 30 ( numbers on all of the propositions & a Map)
westhollywood.patch.com ^ | November 7, 2012 | Karen Jordan

Posted on 11/08/2012 10:23:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Votes supporting a ballot measure to fund education backed by Gov. Jerry Brown outpolled "no" votes, with 100 percent of precincts reporting. Refresh this page for the latest updates.

(Excerpt) Read more at westhollywood.patch.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2012; election2012; jerrybrown

1 posted on 11/08/2012 10:23:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
Candidate Party Votes Percent
Barack Obama Dem 5,581,991 59.1%
Mitt Romney Rep 3,645,262 38.6%
Other --- 220,755 2.3%

2 posted on 11/08/2012 10:28:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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The map of how the counties voted for the President slot and the numbers will be shown by clicking on the Presendental word at the web site just under the solid black banner...on the far left.
3 posted on 11/08/2012 10:33:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The unions/democrats own the coastal parts of California.
4 posted on 11/08/2012 10:35:25 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not to worry. This is only a tax on the wealthy. Of course before
they can tax you they must convince you that the rich have been
soaked.......stay tuned.

BTW out of each CA state tax dollar 40 cents goes to K-12.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 10:36:13 AM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mark my words. The rest of us will be bailing them out before the next election.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 10:37:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Moonbeam will send each of you a thank you note.... I am sure....

My county voted for Romney.

And so did Riverside county....all of those rich people out there in Palm Springs.

7 posted on 11/08/2012 10:42:01 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Smart Idea...tax the people who have more than ample enough resources to pack up and leave the state on a moments notice...

Something tells me that you will soon be able to get a mansion dirt cheap in California...

8 posted on 11/08/2012 10:44:40 AM PST by apillar
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To: oldbrowser
At he website...is a very nice interactive map....can see just how each county voted ...was just checking it out on the presential vote.

Over all image is shaded blue or red based on the counties vote.

There is very little red along the coast.....and not much blue for the interior counties.

9 posted on 11/08/2012 10:45:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: apillar
Something tells me that you will soon be able to get a mansion dirt cheap in California

lol...If so, I'll be the first in line to buy. I'll take mine with a view to the islands thanks!

10 posted on 11/08/2012 10:47:36 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; tubebender; bd476; Brad's Gramma; Yaelle; ...

fyi


11 posted on 11/08/2012 10:49:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_30,_Sales_and_Income_Tax_Increase_%282012%29

The income tax hikes are retroactive to this year. So they have to pay the increased rate on the coming tax returns.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 10:52:34 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Whatever they projected it will bring in, is probably way off. It will probably actually bring in half of whatever number they used.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 10:54:25 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The feds have no money to bail with. Feds are gong under too. Pressure Boehner, et al, to NOT raise debt limit again!!


14 posted on 11/08/2012 10:55:45 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ltc8k6

Figures were based on top 3% of wage earners as of 2009.
I will venture to guess that prop 30 will affect no more than 1% by next year. People in this tax bracket have options.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 11:03:18 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Sivad

My grand daughters who live in San Clemente are in overcrowded classrooms with many kids with special needs and poor English language skills.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 11:03:54 AM PST by surrey
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To: oldbrowser
The unions/democrats own the coastal parts of California.

BTW, that goes the same for nearly 85 percent of the country.

What's also interesting, this is where much of the big wealth is.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 11:05:16 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fraud is everywhere.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 11:11:08 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dragnet2
What's also interesting, this is where much of the big wealth is.

Exactly. while most of us other taxpayers live inland.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 11:13:02 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: surrey

The Capistrano Unified School District had a grades 9-12 dropout rate of 1% in 2008. The national grades 9-12 dropout rate in 2007 was 4.4%.

In the Capistrano Unified School District, 9% of students have an IEP (Individualized Education Program). An IEP is a written plan for students eligible for special needs services.

The Capistrano Unified School District serves 15% English Language Learners (ELL). ELL students are in the process of acquiring and learning English Language skills.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 11:14:20 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: oldbrowser

Prop 30 takes more tax from those earning over a quarter million per year...This would affect more who live on the coastal plain than inland.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 11:26:16 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

..........and increases the sales tax.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 11:27:46 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Sivad
Well that is not true. Along with the tax for high earners was an increase to the sales tax which hits everyone. In fact where I live we also had on the ballot an increase to my county sales tax which passed too so I have the state increase and the county. I am going to limit my purchases if I can but those people who think it is just high earners they are mistaken and will be taxed more as well.
23 posted on 11/08/2012 11:28:58 AM PST by funfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If I recall, the Disney purchase of LucasFilm was supposedly completed this year instead of next year to avoid some possible tax issues. Is this type of sale considered income for state tax purposes (or is it a capital gain)? How about all those Facebook investors? Is that covered too?


24 posted on 11/08/2012 11:33:27 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: sanjuanbob

Doesn’t the retroactive part mean that the tax hit will be huge this time? People probably didn’t adjust for it.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 11:46:05 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

It’s retroactive to January 1 2012...


26 posted on 11/08/2012 11:47:17 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
I am sure the Dems have a plan for that....I think there was another provision aimed at corporations....

My complaint is the sales tax increase that hits every one....I think that makes it 10.5 %...if I am not mistaken.

27 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:43 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: morphing libertarian

To be honest 1/4 cent up sales tax does not bother us too much, as we only purchase what is necessary anyway, and are able to get around it occasionally anyway.

BTW, my heating and cooling bills are extremely low due to the Mediterranean style weather.


28 posted on 11/08/2012 11:48:45 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Jim Robinson
Have we got a thread ....discussing the pros and cons of doing that?....

Might be a way to get something out of the Democrats that is useful.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:41 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: dragnet2

Just a little increase; just like the frog in the pot set to boil. This is not the first sales tax increase. You have to starve the addiction in sacramento and let the pols cut spending.

When gas prices go up, sacramento will have a windfall and they will provide more public services counter to having people show individual responsibility.

The system is cyclical just like the bribery inherent in public unions campaign contributions to those with whom the negotiate their contracts.

We will not be able to do this in our lifetime. When people cote higher taxes to get more beanies, we are doomed.

Cal is bankrupt and continues on the same course. We cannot pay enough taxes o do what the dems want to do.

We are paying 12-16 billion a year in services to illegals and making it easier all the time for them to be here.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:02 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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Cal is bankrupt and continues on the same course

Got news for ya, the entire country is bankrupt and broke..Thanks to corrupt government at all levels, coast to coast.

In fact, the U.S. is in the hole about 16 trillion, that's trillion with a T, as opposed to a few billion in CA.

To put things in brutal prospective, it take 100 billion to make just 1 trillion....lol

The U.S. Government better invest in nuclear powered printing presses, and the old ones are smoking and burning through the floors.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 12:32:18 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: funfan

Sorry to make you have to nit pik.

However, the income tax portion of prop 30 was advertised as
a good old taxing of the rich. Heard Moonbeam on the radio
myself


32 posted on 11/08/2012 12:57:30 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: surrey

Sorry about your grandkids situation but 40% of the state
tax going to education should be enough. Top heavy at the
administrative level and overloaded with dubious programs,
the kids in the classroom are paying the price.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 1:09:12 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Sivad

Oh, I agree with you. It seems no amount of money is ever enough for these people.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 1:12:52 PM PST by surrey
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To: Sivad
True. When Moonbeam went to a high school to push his prop he said the rich would only have to pay 3% that's not so bad and the kids said yeah! But what he failed to mention was that the 3% is on top of the 10% state tax they already paid. Jerry Brown sucks along with the rest of the commie pols here.
35 posted on 11/08/2012 1:30:36 PM PST by funfan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This link is great. I have added it to my don’t do business with blue states to help people decide if they want to business with California companies.


Unless you want America to be like CalifornicatingU land, the rest of America needs to separate the blue state pos’s from your money.

Start a boycott, buycott or avoidcott with the Blue States.

Don’t buy a product made or raised in a blue state unless you have proof its owners are not left wingers.

Don’t vacation in, or have conventions or business meetings in, Democrat blue states. Start with Nevada until the casino bosses get rid of Reid and send him home to have more time with his family.

Don’t visit CalifornicatorU land. Don’t go to Follywood movies and stay away from our products except those produced or raised by conservatives.

How do you determine if the California business is probably ok? Go to this interactive map and checkout the county the business is in. If the business, farm, ranch is in a red county, they might be ok.:

http://westhollywood.patch.com/articles/california-state-propositions-election-results-2012?utm_campaign=Outbrain+Story+Box&utm_source=traffic.outbrain.com&utm_medium=internal_outb

Avoid NY City like it has the plague. It has the terminal Bloomberg mental illness.

The Blue Staters hate you, your religion, your belief system, and your priorities in life, like your family members and friends. Let the Blue Staters try to live without your $’s.

Let the blue states sink on their own!

Save your charity $’s for red state people when disasters hits their area.

http://boston.com/news/special/politics/2012/general/us-president-election-results-2012.html


36 posted on 11/08/2012 1:37:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: morphing libertarian
Cal is bankrupt and continues on the same course

Got news for ya, the entire country is bankrupt and broke..Thanks to corrupt government at all levels, coast to coast.

In fact, the U.S. is in the hole about 16 trillion, that's trillion with a T, as opposed to a few billion in CA.

And my error here: To put things in brutal prospective, it takes 1000 billion to make just 1 trillion

....lol

The U.S. Government better invest in nuclear powered printing presses, as the old ones are smoking and burning through the floors.

37 posted on 11/08/2012 1:40:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Why aren’t the greenies also complaining about how many trees this will kill?


38 posted on 11/08/2012 1:42:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Because most leftist are brainwashed, mentally ill, shortsighted, hypocrites, want America to suffer or they are just plain stupid lumberheads...


39 posted on 11/08/2012 2:02:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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