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When A President is a FRAUD, SO ARE THE ELECTION RESULTS
vanity | November 08, 2012 | Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Posted on 11/08/2012 12:14:47 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Stolen birth certificate..
Stolen Social Security number..
Proven FORGED Selective Service card..
SEALED Columbia school records (or perhaps there are NONE?)..

I just step back and think 'big picture' here.. Knowing all the evil things 0bama has done as president, and considering the vast amount of resources and power he has throughout this nation, AND HIS PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF CORRUPTION including ILLEGALLY CHANGING FEDERAL LAWS TO GARNER MORE VOTES, does ANYONE really believe that he would ALLOW an election to function freely and fairly, without his interference, manipulation, suppression, destruction, fabrication, and fraud?

NO!

I'm tired of all the Republican political pundits EXPRESSING SHOCK over this election, the stats and results.. WHAT THE HELL ELSE DID THEY EXPECT, GIVEN OBAMA AND HIS ILK?? THE PUNDITS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE UP AGAINST!

There's only one adage that characterizes this election under 0bama: "GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: election; fraud; obama
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1 posted on 11/08/2012 12:14:54 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Nice rant. But at the end of the day we see there are more Takers than Makers in America. This election just reflected the realities.

Besides... who doesn’t want a free Obama phone?


2 posted on 11/08/2012 12:17:37 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

If there is that much fraud, surely someone could come up with ONE indictment.

Enterprise level fraud would require thousands of complicit minions, and all it takes is for ONE of them to slip up.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 12:18:31 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You should NOT focus on his records we have more than enough to beat Obama at the ballot box...oh wait.... /sarc.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 12:21:12 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

And even IF only a couple of the identity and citizenship and veracity and loyalty issues were correct and true about our mysterious Occupancy in the White House,
why has Congress not filed articles of impeachment?
or, if you are hesitant or don’t like that idea,
why has the mass media avoided (or rather, covered up) 99% of even the most obvious questions or concerns about his residency in our digs there in WashDC?

And why didn’t the R party ask any questions about him in the recent election campaign (or the one in 2008)? The R party leadership is at least complicit in the coverup, if nothing more...

The questions are SO obvious, yet not asked.

Maybe there really is somebody, or something, worth looking into behind that curtain after all, Toto?


5 posted on 11/08/2012 12:22:45 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

We lost because we put up a clone of Obama. The people said let’s keep the liberal we have instead of the liberal we don’t know. It was that simple.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 12:24:44 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Karl Rove actually tweeted yesterday:

Karl Rove ‏@KarlRove Had a really fun night analyzing each state as the votes came in with a great team at @foxnews. http://bit.ly/Xla6M8

This is FUN to them. The absolute destruction of our country. Our lives destroyed. Our misery. It's fun to the Republican elites.

And I was perplexed by Megyn Kelly's weird giddy composure as she was announcing this stuff. Now, I know. They were having fun.

7 posted on 11/08/2012 12:28:12 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

What is as bad ... actually worse, is that the Congress is complicit in this as are many other sworn officials, etc. They’ve all turned their heads and let him get away with this from the get-go. There is only one thing saving Obama’s skin and that IS his skin. No non-minority candidate would have gotten past ‘Go’ with Obama’s record of past associations and lack of records showing his legitimacy. It’s STUNNING if you really look at it and one more reason why I think America is over the cliff ... no one in the current government (House or Senate for starters) with the courage to enforce the rule of law and the Constitution, much less stand up to evil.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 12:30:02 PM PST by MissMagnolia ("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)
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To: Responsibility2nd
its fraud...rigged election that is all.....

but shhh...don't say it too loud....

my only hope is that some pubs get it and start stealing elections themselves....

9 posted on 11/08/2012 12:31:57 PM PST by cherry
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To: DBrow
all it takes is a small cabal to pull it off...own the machines, own the media....

all the tv pundits thought it was a master plan to bomb the Trade Towers...millions of dollars and years and years of planning....

no....it was relatively simple...

10 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

As of yesterday, 11/7/12, I include myself as a member of a group of people henceforth known as the “Counters”.

(sample)

We demand that it be proven beyond reasonable doubt that votes cast for all candidates and state proposals were legitimate and in accordance with all US and state laws.

In addition, all 2012 general election and voting apparatae, forms, processes, etc. be proven certified retroactive to commencement of any and all early, absentee and military voting.

Feel free to add, delete, edit.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:31 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: napscoordinator
we all know where you stand...you supported bammey boy and NOW YOU HAVE HIM....its on you.....so don't dare complain of a single thing the next decade because when it came time for YOU to stand up and do the right thing,...you and other small minded people...you voted instead to keep the dicktator...

May all your dreams come true....

12 posted on 11/08/2012 12:35:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

You are, of course, absolutely correct.

There are simply too many things, objective, empirical things, that pointed to a Romney win for there not to be massive fraud involved.

Even the post-election stats aren’t making any sense. A D+11 election...with 10 million fewer votes for Obama, and a tighter popular vote margin than last time? If it was really D+11, the GOP should have lost the House BIG TIME, worse than in 2006.

Either math has stopped working the way it is supposed to, or else there was widespread electoral fraud in most of the major swing states.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 12:36:17 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; pookie18
obama 2nd chance
14 posted on 11/08/2012 12:36:29 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Anybody making fake election results would have never had Romney under performing McCain, it’s too crazy to believe. And they wouldn’t have had Obama lose 10% of his vote, that sets him up badly in the future. Sorry these results are crazy enough and non-stellar enough to be mostly true. Sure there was some fraud, there’s always some, but the main results are real. A really bad RINO failed to excite his base enough to beat a commie who’d alienated a good chunk of his.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 12:36:41 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: DBrow

This assumes that anyone is going to look.

You know for sure that the Obama administration is not going to investigate itself, and even in swing states with GOP leaders, they’re not going to because they will both be hindered, stonewalled, and bullied by the federal atty general’s office, and also because they don’t want to “rock the boat” and “look petty.”


16 posted on 11/08/2012 12:38:06 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The best Obama exposure site on the net:
The Obama File ...

http://www.theobamafile.com/index_next_personal.html

The United States Library of Congress has selectedTheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collectionof Internet materials
http://theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html


17 posted on 11/08/2012 12:43:44 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: cherry

I think you’d need at least one agent at each polling place. “Owning the machines” would mean owning the people who program them, as each county has their own ballot and would require a unique program. You are still talking about a lot of people involved. The Secretary of State for all the compromised states would need to be involved too.

It is hard to grasp that that many people would vote for Obama, but he was openly promising to give people stuff, and Romney was openly promising to take away stuff. Like Roe V Wade and abortion on demand, and his comment that 47 percent were basically freeloaders. Add in the estimated 3 million Pubies who stayed home, because Romney was another moderate shoved down our throats, and I can see how this happened.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 12:44:59 PM PST by DBrow
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To: discostu

I’m repeating myself out here, but check out Freeper jackmercer. He dead-on called this election out here using science & data last week. Nate Silver called it. RCP called it. It was Ras & Gallup who along with Rove & Morris were messing with the numbers. The lies & fraud were coming from these idiots who we believed.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 12:46:04 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: DBrow
I've wondered that too.. But consider this; The rioting in throughout EGYPT was seeded by OUR gov't and agitated by TEAM OBAMA. It started as a labor dispute. Remember all those SECRET visits to the White House by Andy Stern and code pink's involvement in Egypt? Didn't that strike you as odd? We were told that was a 'DEMOCRACY movement' later labeled 'Arab Spring' but we know better. That was cover for THE LABOR NATIONAL SOCIALIST movement, hardly something our President should condone, or our Forefathers would condone.

You would indeed expect ONE Code Pink member, or at least a retired one to come forward.. Perhaps they are just tools of their masters, unknowing of the REAL endgame of their charade. Union hacks are beholden to their bosses and live in fear of them and are not likely to expose their corruption. Would the Socialist propaganda media report this, anyway?

20 posted on 11/08/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: LongWayHome

Well I think the problem came in that “our” analysts were missing half the story. They got the drop in Obama support right, and most of them even included a sentence similar to “if Romney does at least as well as McCain he’ll win”. What they missed was he wasn’t going to do as well as McCain, which is a tough thing to see coming. As much as I dislike Romney he’s not nearly as big a jerk as McCain and seemed to campaign very well, not to mention just killing it in the debates. It’s a good reminder that debates don’t actually matter, even I forget that sometimes, they’re dog and pony shows mostly watched by the already converted so they can cheer on their guy.


21 posted on 11/08/2012 12:50:27 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: napscoordinator

Romney was not a clone of Obama and any thinking person knows this.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 12:51:06 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: napscoordinator

Romney was not a clone of Obama and any thinking person knows this.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 12:51:31 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The reason the HOUSE races didn’t change much, is because thousands upon thousands of stuffed ballots had only ‘Obama’ checked off and that’s all. It would be too time consuming to manufacture ballots with ALL races checked off, so ‘Obama only’ ballots were quickly produced.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 12:55:44 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: riri

I’ve become more and more disappointed with Megyn. She’s been acting like Fox’s prima donna . Give me Andrea Tarantula (Tantaros) any day.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 12:57:21 PM PST by surrey
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To: discostu

The real numbers were out there, Rove & Morris & the gang of people who were feeding Romney did a terrible job. You have a freeper out here on his computer doing what Nate Silver did & the GOP did ot even know this, or understand it ?


26 posted on 11/08/2012 12:57:54 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

I’m sure the folks on the internals did understand. But no where in the job description of a campaigner do they list “admit defeat before the election”, they’re supposed to insist they’ll win no matter what. As for Morris, well he’s Morris, the more you like what he says the more likely he is to be wrong.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 1:01:35 PM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: DBrow
If there is that much fraud, surely someone could come up with ONE indictment.

By whom? Our justice department is as fraudulent as they come. Plus, who is going to blow the whistle? You've seen how the MSM and GOP-E treats those who questioned Obama's credentials to hold office. It's becoming more aware every day that the ENTIRE Washington establishment is corrupt beyond repair. What do we do? I have no idea. It's very frustrating.

28 posted on 11/08/2012 1:05:11 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OurWPFW/message/6076

Code Pink has been openly engaged in the Middle East for some time now.

I didn’t think Egypt was about the socialist movement, I thought it was a way for us to impose sharia law on several countries.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 1:06:22 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Responsibility2nd

I know a number of people who refuse to take anything but unemployment despite being way below the poverty level since losing their jobs. There is still some honor out there.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 1:07:51 PM PST by Himyar
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Clinton ratcheted up election fraud from a few percent into the millions. There wasn’t much the GOP could do while he was in the White House, because he would simply veto it.

But Bush lost a golden opportunity to push through voter ID laws and prosecute fraud, and shovel all the clinton appointees out of the top layers of government. Regretably, he failed to do any of that during the six years that he could have acted, before he lost congress.

He let clinton off the hook because it was the polite thing to do, and although clinton made a point of putting his own guys in everwhere, he mostly refrained. Obama, naturally, has followed clinton’s lead, and has stuffed the government full of even worse people than even clinton came up with.

There’s not much chance of fixing any of that corruption as long as Obama is running the show. We can only expect it to get worse. I think I remember saying some years ago that Bush had the window of opportunity—but he blew it.

Does anyone imagine that Boner, our only possible source of power in the fed government, will fix it? Or that the GOPe will even consider replacing Boner, unless it’s with someone even worse?


31 posted on 11/08/2012 1:08:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“Why do we expect honest results from dishonest players?”

I don’t, I know that if we win a close election the reality is that we beat them badly. The NYU brennan Justice center attacks anyone and who does anything to try to eliminate election fraud. I read a lot of what they do and their papers opposing Voter ID, one of their papers against Voter ID ended with “ it only makes a difference in close elections anyway.” The left expects to be ceded the close elections. I don’t know if there has ever been an honest or fair in the United States but if so I’m sure it was the last one we will ever have. In the future instead of voting they will probably use a program that extends the polls to the polling place and will mark the ballot for us and print the results and we won’t have to go to the trouble of physically voting and the results will be the same anyway.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 1:11:37 PM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: surrey

She’s a feminist and a blathering sensationalist.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 1:13:06 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The fact that any one would vote for a fraud like him the first time was beyond my belief, now it really shows the intelligence of the American people.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 1:13:54 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Romney was not a clone of Obama and any thinking person knows this.

Let’s see....pro-abortion...check. pro-gay marriage...check. pro-manditory medicine....check. What else is there? Those are my main issues.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 1:15:18 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: equaviator

Count me in big time...


36 posted on 11/08/2012 1:19:23 PM PST by gcraig (Freedom is not free)
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To: DBrow

think the worse sometimes....there really is evil out there even if its easier to believe there is not...


37 posted on 11/08/2012 1:20:19 PM PST by cherry
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To: DBrow

If there is that much fraud, surely someone could come up with ONE indictment.

Enterprise level fraud would require thousands of complicit minions, and all it takes is for ONE of them to slip up.


I believe the Clinton years answers that question fairly good and his escapades and fraud was mild compared to the one we have now.

Also Clinton taught them that it is just a waste of time so they are just hopping that he will be replaced, they meaning if there are any one left who is not being black mailed by the Obama thugs and his higher ups.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 1:22:30 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: DBrow

I don’t trust any system that doesn’t start with a paper hard copy of the ballot marked by the voter and that hard copy is retained and can be eyes on, hands on physically counted if necessary. These all electronic systems can lend them selves to fraud too easily, including the ones that give you a receipt with your marked ballot, everyone would have to hold their receipt and get together to check the machine. I no longer have any faith in the election process in the United States. DOJ holding up Voter ID in our state, now it probably won’t make any difference anyway the’ll probably have the DOJ just appoint our “elected” officials in Mississippi in the future.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 1:23:44 PM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Either math has stopped working the way it is supposed to, or else there was widespread electoral fraud in most of the major swing states.

Exactly.

And on the news last night the Obama campaign somewhat confirmed it.

They said that their strategy was not to expand the blue areas on the electoral map but to squeeze more votes out of them by "finding" more Obama voters in them ---- right ... finding more voters or creating them???

We need a breakdown by precinct in those areas where there were inordinate vote totals.

40 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:26 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

One would have expected a little more chaos or randomness in the results. Instead, the Dems came in just a little over the wire in a lot of erstwhile toss-up states. The ones with historical big margins either way, they left alone. This looks a little TOO picture perfect.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 1:33:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (cat dog, cat dog, alone in the world is a little cat dog)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Either math has stopped working the way it is supposed to, or else there was widespread electoral fraud in most of the major swing states.


I read an article last night that made sense to me, it said that Romney received less votes by far than MC Cain got last election.

I don,t have any way to verify it.

They were counting on the MC Cain voters to vote for Romney, my take is that these uh what shall i say, God fearing people are more comfortable with queer marriage than they would be with a man having more than one wife.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 1:34:52 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: gcraig; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Here is where to go to REPORT FRAUD , by state etc. They have been accepting such reports for a long time. Very easy to read web site about it all.

Also read all about what is going on to commit VOTE FRAUD.
Group been working on it for a long time, and reading its stuff I was expecting a loss, DESPITE what my lying eyes saw to the contrary !

———————> www.blackboxvoting.ORG

They say their biggest work is AFTER the elections to try to find all the FRAUD.

Colorado rushed thru a late new law that prohibits releasing ANY results from the election at all - for 45 DAYS!

Here is something from an article on that site:

-SNIP-

The media called the election in Tennessee just 11 minutes after the polls closed and by the way, exit polls had already been cancelled in Tennessee because, it was explained, everyone already knew who the winner was going to be so why bother with the expense. Even the voting machines, opaque and controlled by whatever their programmers put into them, had not yet issued results printouts. Is this the new, NEW method for pretending at democracy?


43 posted on 11/08/2012 1:35:44 PM PST by PraiseTheLord
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To: riri

Agreed. These are no longer our colleagues from across the isle. These are friends, and enemies bent on the destruction of our way of life.
These enemies are crafty and have defeated the Supremes and are converting our economic system from capitalism to a european socialist system.

They must be resisted by all legal means.

Anyone who embraces the enemy for personal gain (Christie) must be scorned.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 1:39:00 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: napscoordinator
He had pro-life positions and stated marriage is between a man and a woman. It is grossly unfair to claim there is no difference between Romney and Obama.

America is the loser here and the markets are already showing it.

Let's assume there is no difference between Obama and Romney (which I won't agree), still what would the the down side to at least giving Romney a chance at it. It certainly wouldn't be any worse. I have no clue who you voted for but why wouldn't you vote for Romney?

45 posted on 11/08/2012 1:40:56 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: duffee

The Senate win of Al Franken involved finding a box of paper ballots in a car, I believe.


46 posted on 11/08/2012 1:47:36 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
"Is voter fraud being committed in Ohio?"

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/26/is-voter-fraud-being-committed-in-ohio/

"Non-citizens registered to vote in Lawrence, but officials shrug"

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/20001618/2012/11/05/non-citizens-registered-to-vote-in-lawrence-but-officials-shrug

47 posted on 11/08/2012 1:53:22 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
The large urban centers are deciding the vote. I talked to friend who lives in inner city Detroit and he was shocked at the chaotic behavior of anything and everything goes by the pollsters. They even had instructions in each booth on who to vote for. It is difficult to fight a fair fight against Santa Clause but image all the fraud that is going on in these black urban areas that is going unchecked. The advantage is insurmountable.
48 posted on 11/08/2012 1:54:22 PM PST by pterional
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To: DBrow

The paper ballots I’m referring to are locked in the machine that they are inserted in that counts them. our ballots are marked by the person voting and tabulated and secured by the machine. It’s what we use in our county, ballots that did not come out of the machine would not be counted. I doubt any system could be developed that eventually couldn’t be circumvented but I certainly don’t trust any electronic system where a hard copy is never produced and some of those are in use in my state but not my county.


49 posted on 11/08/2012 2:00:43 PM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The problem here is that the GOP has had control of the House for 4 years and refused to look at it. The GOP now shares equally in the conspiracy.

So GOP arguments that I should have voted against Obama because of alleged fraud now falls flat. You can’t ignore the problem and then expect me to vote for your candidate because the problem still exists.


50 posted on 11/08/2012 2:03:38 PM PST by DannyTN
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