Skip to comments.The Way Forward
Posted on 11/08/2012 6:57:45 PM PST by randitaEdited on 11/08/2012 7:45:02 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
They lose and immediately the chorus begins. Republicans must change or die. A rump party of white America, it must adapt to evolving demographics or forever be the minority.
The only part of this that is even partially true regards Hispanics. They should be a natural Republican constituency: striving immigrant community, religious, Catholic, family-oriented, and socially conservative (on abortion, for example).
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In the end, standing on principle is the winning strategy.
I agree with Krauthammer.
Democrats are committing demographic suicide by aborting their young and glorifying those who can never bear children of their own.
Soon all that will be left is the 47% and when the money runs out, so does that constituency.
“in return for full border enforcement”
laughable. Even if the ‘pubs had won by the same margin the marxist POS did, there would not “full” be enforcement at the border. Too many pro-illegals in the border states.
As much as I respect Krauthammer I can’t agree with this.If non-citizens get to sneak into this country and are then allowed to stay permanently that means that if I manage to sneak into Krauthammer’s house and hide in his basement for a while I eventually get my name placed on his deed as co-owner.And although my current house is solid,comfortable and respectable I’ll wager that it’s not *nearly* as nice as his so I just might give it a try.
I’m done with US politics and will in future try to focus more on that kingdom not of this world of which Our Lord spoke to Pilate. However, I think Krauthammer’s suggestion is a reasonable suggestion for going forward. The amnesty part of the amnesty plus enforcement won’t be welcomed here, of course, but I think if the Republicans are to have any future, they have to try to win a bigger chunk of Latinos. Also agree that in other respects, conservatives should not compromise on conservative principles. That said, I think we’re in civilizational collapse and that it is all pretty much rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Feeling very Eeyorish today.
We’re going to have to talk about crime. Because there will be lots of it when things go down the drain.
“Standing on principle is the winning strategy.”
It’s what is right AND the right strategy. - If pandering to a Hispanic constituency that, like all Democrats, demands “freebies” and “Santa Claus presents”, consists of having to buckle under to their demands for a blind eye to illegal immigration - then they’ve made their bed, let them lie in it. - It’s dishonorable and unfair to all those who have come here for centuries the legal and honest way. Their Santa Daddy Obama is going to eventually run out of other people’s money. Let him have his adoration and then FLUSH!
Romney’s message - Work hard and I will assure you an opportunity to achieve the American dream.
Obama’s message - I’ll make everything fair, give you the American dream and someone else will do the work for it.
Now which one do you think resonates?
“The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.”
- Alexis de Tocqueville:
He could not be more wrong about Hispanics. They want free stuff. Maybe they are socially conservative, but they are driven by the same thing that the rest of the 47% are. They want other people’s money.
Obviously not all, but the majority.
This is fantasy, not reality.
We cannot solve our problems by telling ourselves comforting delusions. We must face facts as they are.
This describes a PART of the hispanic community, but it does NOT describe the majority of the hispanic immigrants who came here over the last couple of decades.
The illegitimacy rate among hispanics is 53%. If most hispanic babies are born to unwed mothers, why on earth do people keep parroting the bit about family values?
And statistics show hispanics taking government assistance at much higher rates than native-born non-hispanics.
We COULD have controlled the border over the last 20 years and only admitted immigrants who would have not looked for government handouts and would have had children within stable families.
We did not. We left the border open, and what we got was the most unskilled and uneducated part of the population south of the border, along with massive infiltration by criminal narcotics cartels.
Since this demographic is strongly supportive of socialistic politicians south of the border, will someone please explain to me how migrating across a river magically changes their political outlook?
A signficant part of the hispanic population ARE conservative, but it is not a majority. We need to appeal to those whom we can and work to control the border and enforce the laws.
No one was more of an illegal amnesty proponent than John McCain; fat lot of good that did. Why should Hispanics go with Republican Marco Rubio when they can have the real deal with the Castro twins?
With one foot on principle and the other on compromise with principle?
I understand the human side of this equation, but you had better sell locking down the border first or you will further split the party you think you're trying to unite.
Their one foot on principle, barely, and the other on compromise with principle is why people shun the party now, even when faced with likely total destruction.
My guess is, those principled voters won't understand your abstraction on something as important as illegal immigration, not unless you are rock solid that the border will be locked down.
Remember, we have history with this issue and did amnesty once before. It was a failure. Those around Reagan claimed he regretted it and would not have made that mistake again if he could do it over.
Frankly, I don’t care what Americans do anymore.
You should study history more. Look into the antics of Wilson and FDR, just to name a couple.
obama said he was going to be as creative as FDR was to solve the problems he faces in his second term.
To be honest? It's amazing we've gotten this far. On the other hand, maybe we're tougher than we think to have survived all that's been thrown at us.
Mostly nonsense. Most of the Hispanics whose families are established and have been in the US for several generations probably fit that description. But the still poor and the recent arrivals are here to improve their standard of living, whether from work or government welfare prorams, or both. That's their number one priority and usually remains so for several generations. They are natural Democrat voters, and the Dims are not at all confused about it as Krauthammer and so many others seem to be.
Go away, Charles. Just. Go. Away.
A Hispanic gal called Rush today and explained to him the 2 different sets of Hispanics. The ones like her who earned her citizenship 30 years ago and share conservative values and then the illegals and their children who want everything for free.
I live in California and have seen it and lived it first hand. The illegals and their American born children do not share and have no respect for our values. We owe them......period.
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