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Where Did the Voters Go? Nowhere.
commentary magazine ^ | 11-8-12 | Jon Podhoretz

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:35 PM PST by cdchik123

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1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:25:37 PM PST by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123

Rush talked about this a lot today when Podhoertz has a point here. OH provisionals dont get counted for 10 days. Not very cutting edge Rush :(


2 posted on 11/08/2012 7:28:07 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: cdchik123

What about the electronic votes that were switched mid-stream from Romney to 0bama?


3 posted on 11/08/2012 7:30:31 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: cdchik123

This is true. The totals will be updating for weeks. Romney’s at 58.13 million right now.McCain ended up with 59.95 million.

It is Obama’s votes that disappeared. probably around 5 million of them.

Mandate?! Give me a f**kin break!


4 posted on 11/08/2012 7:33:23 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: cdchik123
Perhaps evangelical voters quietly refusing to cast a ballot for a Mormon?

No, conservatives refusing to vote for another big government liberal masquerading as a Republican.

5 posted on 11/08/2012 7:35:12 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: cdchik123

The question, Where are the missing votes? is the wrong question. It should be, Where are the missing votes?


6 posted on 11/08/2012 7:36:48 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: cdchik123

Paultards and Nootards.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 7:38:40 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (St.Peter:"Upon this rock, I will build my church" 0:"If you've got a church, you didn't build that!")
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To: cdchik123

It’s not about how people voted, it’s ALL about how the votes are counted........


8 posted on 11/08/2012 7:40:54 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: cdchik123

If this is true, then an explanation is needed as to how Romney turned out his base, won the independents, yet still lost; managing to do so as Obama saw millions of losses from 2008. Party I.D. doesn’t account for it. There aren’t enough Democrats to do that. I’m thinking Republicans stayed home until somebody comes up with a better explanation. It’s not like McCain really got out the vote either.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 7:41:15 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: cdchik123
As I said:

"To: cripplecreek It's still a race to the bottom for these two. No reason why somebody who'd dump Obama would turn around and vote for Rombama. I see an historic low in voter turnout this November. 17 posted on May 26, 2012 8:25:28 AM EDT by muawiyah" or

" To: rogue yam You are one of those who rejected the idea that we could discuss the campaign using facts and figures. Something about that just gives the Democrats ideas or something. You'll have to do better than that. In the meantime, if Republicans do as well as they did in the last two Presidential races we are short 10 million votes of beating Obama. He's plush. Not only that, the people on his team who are disappointed in him say they won't vote for him, but they're not saying they'll vote for a Republican. That is very serious. What's going on here is the GOP-e has known for four years that our Presidential vote totals have been declining and that Obama broke all records. If he does as well, we lose. He has to lose 15% of his last vote total to get down in the territory where Republican votes are located. The only way to overcome that is to have a really bright, sparkling, charismatic candidate who attracts people. Just "thinking hard" at a problem isn't going to elicit a positive response out of the crowd who voted for Obama the first time. Again, with a 15% loss in votes Obama still beats our guy. If you really cared about winning the election you'd come up with something. BTW, the shadow of the Spring non-Primary in Virginia continues. We had exceeding light turnout yesterday and there were 5 contested House seats and a Senate seat at stake. Ordinarily you'd get folks out ~ this time they got what seems to be the same old same old. Keep that up and this Fall Republicans will lose everything in Virginia. Tell your little buddy over there who works for Bolling on these matters that it is dangerous to discourage voting. People will make it a habit! 44 posted on 06/13/2012 6:49:38 PM PDT by muawiyah " OR

This is an old issue that was suppressed for the sake of FREEPER comity during the body of the formal campaign ~ lest I somehow hurt Romney more than several other disasters had already done.

Failure to encourage Republicans to vote lost Virginia for him ~ he did that! Someone's going to remind me Bob McDonnell and Bill Bolling did that, but it was Romney. He had but to say "Hey, open up the Virginia primary to everybody or I"m not going there either' and that'd been it. Even make him a popular guy!

Failure to get more people registered who were willing to vote Republican hurt everywhere. We were short on voter registration drives.

Finally, Obama lost 9 million votes he'd had before! He literally fell on his sword to give this election to Romney ~ and still Romney didn't do as well as McCain ~ which wasn't the first time Romney didn't poll as well as McCain.

10 posted on 11/08/2012 7:44:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cdchik123
"I don't have to vote. Everything will be OK."
11 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:17 PM PST by Morris70
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To: LouAvul

Both...

Romney’s Mormonism was definitely a strike against him. I certainly considered it a negative. His liberalism was several more strikes. I didn’t stay home though. I wanted my third party vote counted as the dissatisfaction with the two candidates that it was.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:27 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: cdchik123
The viewership of those watching the election returns seems to reflect a similar number:

13 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:36 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: LouAvul; All

“No, conservatives refusing to vote for another big government liberal masquerading as a Republican.”

No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldn’t support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn. Also, as you say, Romney was never remotely a conservative.

BTW - I now have to live with the shame that I caved my principle at the last minute and voted for Romney. I am ashamed I did so.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 7:50:06 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: DannyTN

US Constitution, Article VI: “... no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”


15 posted on 11/08/2012 7:52:27 PM PST by dorothy ( "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sola Veritas

“No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldn’t support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn. “

Well, now they can pay for Sandra Fluke’s abortions.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 7:54:56 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: LouAvul
No, conservatives refusing to vote for another big government liberal masquerading as a Republican.

Did your hissy fit result in the election outcome you wanted?

17 posted on 11/08/2012 7:56:52 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: cdchik123
The Republicans better forget getting the evangelical Christian Catholic vote. Cannot vote for a Baptist - too strict, Cannot vote for a Catholic - don't agree with their teaching, Cannot vote for a Mormon - they are a cult, Cannot vote for mainline Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian candidate - too liberal in their thinking, will vote for a Muslim because the liberal news media say that is acceptable.
18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:02:07 PM PST by YukonGreen
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To: dorothy

That clause allowed non-Quakers to run for federal office in Pennsylvania. It’s not a prohibition on private individuals making such decisions.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:08:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ari-freedom

Fluke’s a dude.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 8:08:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: DannyTN

Obutthead thanks you for voting your “principles”.....well done...


21 posted on 11/08/2012 8:09:24 PM PST by matginzac
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To: ez

the results do not add up in many races like Mia LOVE AND then states like VA,FL,OH, WI , PA

what we have is an election which has results and not making sense, precints which are 100% voted but al went for obama etc.

The GOP needs to stop this crap and stop this being called and to hell with the lefts attack dogs called the media , this country is at stake and these results are not adding up i certain states//

After all the Chicago machine had 4 years for this


22 posted on 11/08/2012 8:10:11 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: YukonGreen

How’s about them Evangelical Jews? Are they OK To vote for, or not! /s


23 posted on 11/08/2012 8:10:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sola Veritas

Don’t worry, you’ll get over it. I felt the same way 12 years ago when I voted for GWB instead of my real choice, Pat Buchanan.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:12:10 PM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting.)
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To: cdchik123
I just spent several hours doing a spreadsheet analysis by reported vote totals and estimated % of votes in.

Romney received approximately 1.5 MILLION MORE votes than McCain.

Even adjusting for growth in the voting age population, Romney got 2.5% more votes than McCain.

Nice to see Podhoretz break the tide of idiocy from the Right on this.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:12:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: cdchik123

There a great article on Drudge on the dems use of subtle marketing techniques to sway voters. I hate to say it but it was brilliant. (professionally speaking)

I am depressed that the republicans, who I thought are much smarter than the dems, got “schooled” in electioneering.

The idea that you can sway demographics by appealing to something totally unrelated to the important issues republicans were pounding on is very interesting.... but makes sense when you think that most people don’t give two hoots about politics.

It also doesn’t make any sense that Obama would win given his record.... so the dems did only thing they could. Say bad things about the opponent and influence their base with things that the republicans would ignore.

The example of giving away cell phones, or Obama having dinner with Clooney seems like nonsense to us thinking people, but are important decision points that influence whole demographics of sheeple. Stupid sounding but a brilliant translation or marketing skills and data into retail politics.

And if you extrapolate this means that elections will never again be about issues but be about influencing people via their likes and dislikes - or other emotional signals.

Right or left will have no meaning anymore - it’ll be just red or blue.

It was better when only 20% of us voted.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:12:45 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: dorothy

“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers. And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” - John Jay


27 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:39 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: cdchik123
website: Link to article
28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:20:10 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: Theodore R.; Sola Veritas

I voted for Buchanan and still feel good about it. I did vote for Dubya for his second term and I’ve recovered from that. I continue to want my Dole vote back.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 8:24:26 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks cdchik123.
As I write, Mitt Romney has 57.4 million votes. John McCain ended up with 59.9 million. It's a little noticed fact that in two weeks following every presidential election, votes continue to be reported...by the millions. As I recall, Barack Obama got something like four million more votes in the weeks after election day, while John McCain got two or three million. It's likely that by Thanksgiving, the final vote tally will show Romney very close to or even slightly exceeding McCain’s total. So there are probably no missing voters.

30 posted on 11/08/2012 8:26:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dorothy

That’s about ballot access for candidates, not a rule binding voters. Voting is a First Amendment right. You can express your approval or disapproval of a candidate for any reason at all, be it policy, religion, or which way he parts his hair. You just can’t keep him off the ballot based on his religion.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 8:29:10 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: cdcdawg

VOTE FRAUD got 0 in

That would explain 99 to 100% in some Philadelphia precincts.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:31:28 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: mike_9958

“I am depressed that the republicans, who I thought are much smarter than the dems, got “schooled” in electioneering.”

Dems have the media, Hollywood and the techies. Romney was a throwback from a 50’s TV show. He wasn’t going to get it.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: ari-freedom

The GOP is the “Stupid Party”, no political savvy whatsoever.

Look at the primary season......too many candidates, too many debates providing fodder for late night comedians. Having insignificant states deciding the nominee, even before the largest pro-Republican state, Texas, even got a voice.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 8:44:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sola Veritas

“No, it was also conservative evangelicals that wouldn’t support a cult devotee that would use the Oval Office to preach Mormonisn.”

You have quite a flair for the dramatic. And a very creative imagination.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:46 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("You're doing a whale of a job, Christie!")
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To: ari-freedom

“Dems have the media, Hollywood and the techies. Romney was a throwback from a 50’s TV show. He wasn’t going to get it.”

I wouldn’t go back that far... I think Romney did a 2008 election and Obama’s guys did a 2012.

I don’t give any credit to Obama - he really was a “prop”

The dems did have the media and hollywood and techies which they used with skill. The reps should have been able to counter.... I don’t blame Romney - his message was great, and he out did Obama everywhere. Obama’s guys won the election by marketing Obama to folks that don’t do politics.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:39 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: ari-freedom

>>Well, now they can pay for Sandra Fluke’s abortions.<<

That’s exactly what I keep thinking. They voted their “principles,” and the result will be exactly what you said.

Not to mention the Supreme Court justices who will allow who-knows-what assaults on religious liberty.

I seriously don’t get their logic. And I AM an evangelical, who believes God’s judgment is going to be on our nation in part because we allowed this disgrace to be in office 4 more years.


37 posted on 11/08/2012 8:50:26 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("You're doing a whale of a job, Christie!")
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To: ez

Thank God. I thought I might have to kill a few thousand Romney hating Freepers for withholding votes and costing us the election


38 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:57 PM PST by chiller (Sky is the limit with max T-Partiers in the House and Senate to stifle the RINOs)
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To: Morris70

“I won’t vote for a member of a cult, no way, mister!”


39 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ez

Speaking of Rush, you just inspired my new tagline:


40 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:12 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
And I AM an evangelical, who believes God’s judgment is going to be on our nation in part because we allowed this disgrace to be in office 4 more years

I think you've got it backwards. The fact that Obama got 4 more years is part of the judgement we are under as a nation. There's a lot of crap headed our way in his second term.

41 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:13 PM PST by Disambiguator (Choose wisely.)
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To: Revolting cat!
“I won’t vote for a member of a cult, no way, mister!”

So, you would rather a socialist, communist, muslim win???

42 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:20 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Disambiguator

“The fact that Obama got 4 more years is part of the judgement we are under as a nation.”

I agree with you wholeheartedly, and have said as much to my friends lately. I do believe we are under God’s judgement.


43 posted on 11/08/2012 9:01:54 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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To: jda

>>So, you would rather a socialist, communist, muslim win??? <<

That’s exactly what they want. Otherwise they would have tried to stop it.

But, you have to understand, they are more “principled” “conservative” and “smarter” than the rest of us.

You can tell it in the way they like to boast of their principled stand, with an air of superiority.

Absolutely amazing to me.


44 posted on 11/08/2012 9:04:49 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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To: cdchik123

Consider the population increase. Actually Romney got more votes than McCain. It’s just that the population grew too.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 9:06:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Strategerist

Great research.


46 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:47 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jda

Don’t ask me. Note and understand the quote marks.


47 posted on 11/08/2012 9:12:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
they are more “principled” “conservative” and “smarter” than the rest of us.

I'm reminded of a saying I once heard: So heavenly bound that they are of no earthly good.

God's people have a responsibility to be salt and light. Even though selecting from the lesser of two evils is never a good choice, it's better than absolving ourselves of any responsibility to make a difference.

48 posted on 11/08/2012 9:14:45 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: cdchik123

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_CAMPAIGN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-11-08-20-54-56

This tells us that Narcissus was truly in fear of losing his grip on the nation.

I think the conservatives need to spend the next 4 years fighting for Voter ID laws in every state. Or start doing voter fraud just like the Democraps.


49 posted on 11/08/2012 9:17:15 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: jda

Amen.


50 posted on 11/08/2012 9:20:45 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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