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Levin: Krauthammer, GOP Pundits Embarrassing Themselves On Immigration (audio)
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 8, 2012 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on 11/08/2012 7:42:15 PM PST by i88schwartz

Mark Levin responds to calls from conservative commentators, like Charles Krauthammer, to grant amnesty to illegal immigration in order to entice Hispanics to vote Republican. Levin explains why this won't work and what a slippery slope amnesty would be. (Mark Levin Show, November 8, 2012)

MARK LEVIN: You know, I've always known this, but I'm coming to the conclusion yet again that Republican leaders are really stupid people. And I'm coming to the conclusion that are an awful lot of stupid people posing as commentators on cable TV. I mean, where do these people come from?

Now, this immigration issue. How did this become the big issue after the election? It had nothing to do with the Republican loss.

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LEVIN: I want to talk to Charles Krauthammer, who I like very much. I want to talk to all these GOP talking heads all over TV, some of whom are my friends, most of whom clearly are not. And all the rest of the Republicans who are falling into the race pandering and race politics stuff and sound stupid, and look stupid, and are embarrassing themselves. And are going to destroy the Republican party or what's left of it.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; charleskrauthammer; marklevin
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To: cripplecreek
RE :”

If you really think you cant get some of these peoples vote or at least turn them off to Dems then complaining that O will win will end this country is just wasted bandwidth. Its not even serious.

They will make it impossible to EVER win the WH with sheer numbers.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 8:18:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: cripplecreek

No-no I must disagree, Moderates &, “Undecideds” are both narcicissitic attention whores who the media with their so called focus groups spent the entire campaign courting. There they were after every debate raising their hands for the cameras like ancient Roman Senators while the media (on both sides) acted like America gave a damn! Fox and CNN please do not foist these uncommitted assholes on the electorate again. No one cares about folks who can’t make a damn decision in any other aspect of life, but every four years you wheel these uncommited-losers out like their votes matter more than any other American. I’ve had it with them! Tell them to read a position paper and make up their minds like every other American. Off camera!


22 posted on 11/08/2012 8:19:27 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: snarkytart
RE :”It’s a huge divide that cannot be mended unless Republicans start standing for big government.
Then whats the point. The stupid party should have been fighting these bastard left wingers on all this amnesty in the first place before it changed our American western society for good. TOO LATE!

I know all of that and it started ~30 years ago but we have to try to survive NOW or all this whining and hand wringing about O being elected is just a waste of bandwidth. Its not even serious.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 8:22:27 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: i88schwartz

Laura had a couple of Hispanic leaders on the BOR show who absolutely agreed with Levin’s point. They were adamant that Hispanics want to become solid middleclass ordinary Americans, that’s why they come here, legally and otherwise. Pandering on the immigration issue will not gain their votes and in fact will drive them away.

What the hell is Kraut thinking? This is Democrat-logic...dividing people into categories and offering “stuff” to them in exchange for their votes.

Our way is to explain the benefits of liberty, the opportunities provided only by capitalism, and the values that made America the place everyone wants to come to.

THAT is what the Republicans need to do. They know it and to some extent even believe it - they just don’t DO it very well. Go watch some Reagan video - he didn’t pander to anyone but he painted the vision of greatness for everyone.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:22:50 PM PST by bigbob
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To: sickoflibs
The economy completely tanking under O would give an huge opening.

I'll be surprised is the country doesn't end up in a depression over the next few years.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:24:46 PM PST by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: i88schwartz

Aww fer cry sakes all I heard during this election cycle was I’ll vote for Donald Duck bla bla bla..Well 2 million stayed home...Let’s face it

;Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that barrel with.. He failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s energy policies...The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. Including rampant corruption. Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his ?

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Senate campaign played games and his material
never warned voters that if Obama gets re-elected as well as senate the chances of repealing Obama care ...AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED OR HAS CREATED A SHORTAGE IN THE ENERGY SUPPLY WHICH DOUBLED THE COST IN EVERYTHING SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE BY DESIGN IGNORING A BASIC BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE..

Both of their campaigns were looking at the polling and instead of investigating the reasoning and gearing the campaigns towards correcting their findings or a least investigating them . Dismissed them.

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:25:14 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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To: Schatze
RE :”The economy completely tanking under O would give an huge opening.
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I'll be surprised is the country doesn't end up in a depression over the next few years.”

Well we got 4 years, if it happens after that its too late.

We need something like that to neutralize Bush 8 year blame,.

27 posted on 11/08/2012 8:29:24 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: tobyhill

“The election was the result of one thing, freebies and Romney didn’t offer enough to these people.”

He was able to offer Romneycare to MA


28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:36:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: skeeter; snarkytart; ari-freedom; cripplecreek
RE :”Limbaugh nailed this today - finally.
Hispanics are no different than the other democrat constituents - they don't care about immigration or amnesty, they want the taxpayer to fund their stuff.”

Correction : most Hispanics vote for free stuff. Not all.
And this is not news or very insightful. It is obvious. That is why amnesty is a loser

Did the man who is ALWAYS RIGHT explain this :
Rush: Ignore It Limbaugh Says, Swing State Polls Are Bogus!( FNC Greta video Sept 26, 2012)

I cant listen to someone who is So consistently wrong. He pulled this SAME 'we are winning' crap in 2006 and 2008. Nothing useful coming from there.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:46 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: sickoflibs
Latinos or Hispanics are natural constituents for the Dems. They have a 50% out of wedlock birthrate and the highest school dropout rate of any group. Immigrants in general are big users of welfare. 57% of immigrant headed households with children are on at least one major welfare program.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:45 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar; skeeter; snarkytart; ari-freedom; cripplecreek
RE :”Latinos or Hispanics are natural constituents for the Dems. They have a 50% out of wedlock birthrate and the highest school dropout rate of any group. Immigrants in general are big users of welfare. 57% of immigrant headed households with children are on at least one major welfare program. “

Look. I know all this, you act like I agreed with amnesty.
Maybe you are just frustrated and you have no one else to lecture with this stuff I post myself.

Hispanics are reproducing far faster than whites and taking over the swing states.

Whining is not winning and if you are just going to surrender this country then stop the fatalistic talk about O types because it is not serious. If those who preach 'we are dead 'turn you on then there is no pointing acting like you are warning about anything.

The reason why Rush has to pull this 'we are dead' stuff is because he kept telling listeners that Romney was beating Obama and it was obviously nonsense.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 8:57:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: Deagle

The future of American democracy will be 8 wolves and 3 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. The 4th and 5th sheep will be in the mountains, cleaning their weapons.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:23 PM PST by CT
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To: i88schwartz

if you think that is funny then go look at dumbass freepers on the Puerto Rico wants statehood threads

i swear the stupid here have taken over


33 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:49 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: kabar

thank you

completely lost on the fools parade we endure here


34 posted on 11/08/2012 9:01:43 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: kabar; skeeter; snarkytart; ari-freedom; cripplecreek
Today Brett Baur Grapeline did a ranking of polls by correctness and Rasmussen and Gallup were the most WRONG using a 2004 voter turnout model. Shopping for a poll that tells you what you want to believe always backfires.

Rush: Ignore It Limbaugh Says, Swing State Polls Are Bogus! (video posted 9/26/2012 )

You cant win a race when you throw away your compass and run in the wrong direction telling yourself you are ahead.

35 posted on 11/08/2012 9:04:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: i88schwartz

Would that all Jews were Mark Levin

it might be a different country given their media and cultural clout

he has carried the water past 48 hours like no one else...like me his heart ain’t good and he breaths bad...I know the feeling.....the steady congestion and and inhalers and all that junk...

.but you gotta keep the flame alive and he is doing it

Rush has been ok...so-so

Rush always has an ear to keeping access

Levin is a treasure...*

as long as we don;t get into the 1860s....I love him

I have all his books

damn...the same jackasses who forced Romney on us now blame us for their folly

are we gonna put up with it?

many here are no better...suicide...they refuse to see what did us in cause they are scared to be called racist

the same fear that let it happen to begin with the past 40 years

our ancestors were not so soft nor under any illusion about allowing our country to be overrun by third world rot culture


36 posted on 11/08/2012 9:09:14 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: kabar; skeeter; snarkytart; ari-freedom; cripplecreek; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
Keep following the blind. He will lead you to the promised land:

Rush: Everything But Polls Say Romney Landslide (Monday, 05 Nov 2012)

As with 2006 and 2008.

38 posted on 11/08/2012 9:27:31 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: CT

Ah, a Wolverine fan I’d guess...heh.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 9:28:30 PM PST by Deagle (quo)
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To: sickoflibs
Hispanics are reproducing far faster than whites and taking over the swing states.

Yes they have a higher birthrate, but they are not taking over the swing states. And exactly how do you count an Hispanic? Is there a one drop rule? 54% of Hispanics self-describe themselves as white.

In 2008 there was little evidence that immigration policy was an influential factor in Hispanics’/Latinos’ choice between the two candidates once basic party predispositions are taken into account. The size of the Latino voting population should be kept in perspective alongside other subsets of the electorate. An estimated 11.8 million voters were of Latino ancestry, compared with 17 million African Americans, 19.7 million veterans, 23.6 million young people, 45 million conservatives, and 34 million born-again white Christians.

The truth is that immigrants vote two to one for Dems. And that includes Asians and other minorities. We have 40 million foreign born in this country. One in 8 resdients of this country is foreign born, the highest it has been in 90 years. 87% of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who enter annually are minorities as defined by the USG. We are importing Dem voters by the millions. In the decade ending 2010, we had the largest number of immigrants in history--13.9 million. Immigration drives 80% of our population growth.

The 1965 Immigration Act changed the demographics of this country forever. But there is no reason that we should accept the current 1.2 million legal immigrants a year as a given. We can control the number of legal immigrants and should try to reduce the number. We can link it to jobs. Right now there is no correlation between our immigration numbers and job requirements.

The Rep leadership is controlled by the Chamber of Commerce, which supports amnesty and increased guest worker programs. It depresses American wages. Immigration is killing this country economically and electorally. We need a merit based system like they have in Canada and Australia.

The immigration issue is a very big issue in Europe. It has prompted Cameron, Sarkozy (when he was President), and Merkel to proclaim that multiculturalism is dead. Foreign workers are not units of labor. They bring their own culture and costs. Assimilation is becoming less and less possible due to the sheer numbers. By 2050 one in five residents of this country will be foreign born.

40 posted on 11/08/2012 9:50:56 PM PST by kabar
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