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Via Email from a friend | 11/9/2012 | Roger

Posted on 11/09/2012 8:20:56 AM PST by DH

We have lost.....

The most productive people, the small business owners, the entrepreneurs and the honest wage earners of America are so demoralized right now I am not sure we will recover as a country. We have lost the most important election of our lifetime and did so after giving our best effort, spent the most money ever and working the hardest we have ever worked. The very people that America needs the most to generate a real recovery now have the least motivation to do so and worse, lack the confidence necessary to even justify the effort.

We opposed a foe that was so obviously incompetent, corrupt and inept in leadership we really expected a landslide victory and a redeeming mandate to return the nation to conservative values. Instead what we got was a harsh slap in the face by an America public telling us it is not like us and it does not any longer believe in what we believe in. As a country we are hopelessly divided by a malignant polarization approaching that similar to the time around the civil war. Our side will not march in the streets, never the less the rebellion, protests and resistance will be just as determined but more subtle. The American can do spirit, our optimism, our traditional dependence on our own ingenuity is now mere kindling on the advancing flame of an insidious yet steadily advancing socialism.

Those of us who create real jobs, invest our capital, our fortunes and take the risks to build America, feel betrayed. The fundamentals of honest effort and hard work rendering the rewards associated with capitalism seem now like a cruel joke. We are now a targeted enemy not to be governed but coerced into submission by a lazy, corrupt, vindictive, arrogant government that is out for revenge, redistribution and to add a final insult, one we find too morally bankrupt to lead. The usual safe guards for a democracy found in a vibrant independent press have lost any semblance of objectivity and instead have joined a side. What used to be principled Independent reporters have morphed into dishonest pundits spewing a disgusting relentless partisan bile that neither informs nor educates. They are shallowly manipulated by the political marketers to the point their words lack meaning. The "fourth branch" of government has become nothing more than an empty cathode ray irradiating a mind numbed audience like a repetitive Beaves n' Butthead rerun.

We have elected a President who not only feels we did not work for what we have but feels we do not deserve either. Had it gone the other way, Obama supporters would have torched America. Instead they will now legitimately consume it by gnawing at the soft underbelly of what was once her prosperity. Our Judeo-Christian culture now having as much meaning as a 3 minute Youtube video. It is however as the Bible had forewarned, ours is a world turning over where good is bad, and bad is good. God help us all. He is our last refuge.

Roger


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
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I just received this as a forwarded email from a good conservative and patriotic friend.

What it tells is the withering of the social state of our nation.

1 posted on 11/09/2012 8:21:00 AM PST by DH
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To: DH
We are so screwed.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 8:22:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Yes we are screwed.

People seem to have forgotten all of the success we had in the 2010 elections.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 8:26:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DH

If you are operating at a loss, stumbling under ever more fees, permits and taxes, don’t see any hope, maybe it is time to stop pulling the wagon for the looters and go Galt.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 8:27:53 AM PST by Truth29
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To: DH

It was stolen in some states and given away in some others.

It was given away in some states by those good strong conservatives and Christian evangelicals who could not be sullied with voting for someone who was not their perfect candidate. So they gave us Obama again.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 8:28:12 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: driftdiver

yes.. we lost... but we owe it to Abe Lincoln, George Washington, to our boys who died fighting for us, to keep fighting.

we don’t have the right to give up. we must endure and continue.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 8:29:45 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: DH

tIME FOR THE NUCLEAR OPTION:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html


7 posted on 11/09/2012 8:30:39 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: DH

Good post


8 posted on 11/09/2012 8:31:16 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: DH

All is not lost. We have the House, enough Senate seats to prevent super majority, 30 Republican Governors and over half conservative population. We’ve hardly lost just need to regroup on our battles.

#1 to me is to lose Boehner as Speaker and get someone in there who still wants to fight Obamacare.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 8:34:48 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: DH
“He stepped to the window and pointed to the skyscrapers of the city. He said that we had to extinguish the lights of the world, and when we would see the lights of New York go out, we would know that our job was done.” John Galt.... ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
10 posted on 11/09/2012 8:36:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: All

11 posted on 11/09/2012 8:36:54 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (The left has been at war with us...we have not been at war with them.)
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To: DH

The decadent and demented have crowned the barbarian Obama. The pigs have won. If you have the unfortunate reality of actually knowing actual Obama voters, never trust them, and have only the most superficial relationship possible. These lowlifes are have ruined a once great country.


12 posted on 11/09/2012 8:37:06 AM PST by allendale
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To: DH
Geeeze. Talk about defeatist!

The left had someone to vote FOR. He promised every left wing interest group something for nothing. All the scrounges came running for their goodie.

Romney had a very liberal past. No one trusted him. An equal number of Republicans came out to vote as the parasites, but they just had a few more.

The problem is the Republican in the beltway always think a "moderate" is the way to win an elections, and they're always wrong. The working people, those who slave to pay for the entire Washington empire as well as the entire democrat base have no one to vote FOR. What difference, to them, does it make to vote? No one speaks on their behalf. They'll still get up in the morning and pay, pay, pay. Nothing would change for the slaves no matter who won.

If the Republicans want to take this country back, they're going to have to start freeing the tax slaves. There are millions and millions of us out here just waiting for a Moses(R) to come along.

13 posted on 11/09/2012 8:37:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DH
Is your firend named Hudson?

14 posted on 11/09/2012 8:37:33 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DH

"It doesn't matter. One way or another... For one reason or another, we' re all gone. It's all gone..."

15 posted on 11/09/2012 8:37:56 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: concerned about politics

16 posted on 11/09/2012 8:38:00 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: DH

“Together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.”

– The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien

I have joined the long defeat
that falling set in motion
and all my strength and energy
are raindrops in the ocean

so conditioned for the win
to share in victor’s stories
but in the place of ambition’s din
I have heard of other glories

and I pray for an idea
and a way i cannot see
it’s too heavy to carry
and impossible to leave

I can’t just fight when I think I’ll win
that’s the end of all belief
and nothing has provoked it more
than a possible defeat

we walk a while we sit and rest
we lay it on the altar
I won’t pretend to know what’s next
but what I have I’ve offered

and I pray for a vision
and a way I cannot see
it’s too heavy to carry
and impossible to leave


17 posted on 11/09/2012 8:38:36 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: All

Hooverville will be nothing compared to OBAMAVILE...

‘The Mass Firings Begin’

Obama was “fired up” and so were the voters, and so now, the mass firings begin. Here’s a collection of today’s headlines. Please say a prayer for the families who will be suffering. Had Romney won, many of these companies would now be hiring.

Teco Coal officials announce layoffs

Momentive Inc plans temporary layoffs for 150

Wilkes-Barre officials to announce mandatory layoffs

600 layoffs at Groupon

More layoffs announced at Aniston Weapons Incinerator

Murray Energy confirms 150 layoffs at 3 subsidiaries

130 laid off in Minnesota dairy plant closure

Stanford brake plant to lay off 75

Turbocare, Oce to lay off more than 220 workers

ATI plans to lay off 172 workers in North Richland Hills

SpaceX claims its first victims as Rocketdyne lays off 100

Providence Journal lays off 23 full-time employees

CVPH lays off 17

New Energy lays off 40 employees

102 Utah miners laid off because of ‘war on coal’, company says

US Cellular drops Chicago, cuts 640 jobs

Career Education to cut 900 jobs, close 23 campuses

Vestas to cut 3,000 more jobs

First Energy to cut 400 jobs by 2016

Mine owner blames Obama for layoffs (54 fired last night)

Canceled program costs 115 jobs at Ohio air base

AMD trims Austin workforce - 400 jobs slashed

100 workers lose jobs as Caterpillar closes plant in Minnesota

Exide to lay off 150 workers

TE Connectivity to close Guilford plant, lay off 620

More Layoffs for Major Wind Company (3,000 jobs cut)

Cigna to lay off 1,300 workers worldwide

Ameridose to lay off hundreds of workers

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/the_mass_firings_begin.html#ixzz2BkCDPhg0


18 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:19 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (The left has been at war with us...we have not been at war with them.)
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Actually, I am starting to view this as a good thing. A Romney presidency wouldn’t have been our “salvation”; indeed, it would’ve only been a long string of disappointments, I am afraid.

No, as I have believed for some time now, and only feel more confident about now, this is a battle of the states. Arkansas has both of its state houses now controlled by the GOP—this is a first since Reconstruction. Other red states are very red, and their governorships and legislatures are hunkering down for a fight. I don’t see this as a fold-up shop and go home kind of defeat; instead, it is a moment where Americans will start putting energy and focus in their LOCAL level of government and fight against Washington from that perspective.

There is still a lot of fight left.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:32 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: SC_Pete

You are dreaming. Dreams are OK but unrealistic dreams simply set you up for disappointment.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 8:44:14 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: All

21 posted on 11/09/2012 8:44:45 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (The left has been at war with us...we have not been at war with them.)
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To: DH

Wow!
Mirrors my thoughts to a “T”.
The democratic entitlement society has spoken.
Any thoughts of a GOP 2014/2016 return to power is an exercise in futility.
Thanks for the post.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 8:47:07 AM PST by mcmuffin ("236 Years- Only In America")
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To: DH
Yup!...Things sure have changed in America when someone who doesn't respect it gets re-elected...
23 posted on 11/09/2012 8:53:13 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: DH

Chin up...use this time to prepare your home and family.
Zero is going to ride this behemoth over the cliff and take his ugly, childish, dependent, useful idiots with him.
We will survive and we will fix it.
We are the Americans...not them.
America is an idea and they can’t touch that. They can trash it on the outside, but they can’t touch the best part—we have it.
Boortz was talking to Herman Cain this morning, Herman related a thought from a columnist that said “suffering is the best teacher”.
Be prepared, be willing to accept the discomfort and then watch the mob control squads neutralize the little commie crappers.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 8:54:01 AM PST by two23
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To: DH

We all better stop complaining and get back to work. Trevonda and Treyqwon need new Nikes.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 8:56:26 AM PST by The Toll
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To: mcmuffin
Any thoughts of a GOP 2014/2016 return to power is an exercise in futility.

Not really. Oboma can't keep blaming Bush for all his own failures anymore, and things are not looking good for the next 4 years (and going Galt would make sure of it). The cards are all his now. Brace yourself for all fiscal hell to break loose.
Now that the democrats have run out of everyone elses money, how are they going to pay off their base? I doubt other nations are going to keep loaning us money so the the democrat base can just keep eating. They've got their own people to feed.

The democrats need money. They need a LOT of money, and people are pulling back. Working people have decided they're not going to support the scrounges and self serving politicians any more. When the slaves rebel - the masters starve.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 8:57:28 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DH

This handwringing is nonsense. Presidential elections are always won on superficial reasons, not on the issues. The exit polls showed most people disagreed with Obama on most issues, especially economic ones. He won on foreign policy, probably because the killing of Bin Laden is a huge story everyone knows. But Obama just had more charisma than Romney and connected emotionally to people better than Romney.

If you want to lament at how voters are ignorant and democracy doesn’t really work, that’s fine. It’s the least worst system of government we have, not a perfect system. But the idea that conservative values have been newly rejected is nonsense. That being said, some conservative values were rejected long ago and remain so. People don’t believe in a flat tax and do want to tax wealthier people more.

Obama succeeded MUCH, MUCH bigger in 2008 and we still got 2010. This was a very narrow victory. 2014 is therefore looking REALLY good right now. Especially since the minority voters who know nothing about politics but worship Obama because he’s a minority leader don’t show up when he’s not on the ballot.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 9:04:21 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: DH

What a choice. Being torched by the takers or being consumed (I.e freebies) by them.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 9:06:24 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: DH

I would tell friend Roger ... just like on Sept. 11, 2001, we still had cows to milk on the farm.

We have to keep going.

I’m planning to pray for revival, because that’s what will really turn this country around. What we are seeing are symptoms of a far more serious problem, turning away from God.

So, OK, bunkie, let’s just keep on keepin’ on. Remember evil overreaches. Let’s pray and keep working.

Off my soap box now.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:04 AM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: SC_Pete

Only one problem with the proposal in the article: the amendment does not place a maximum limit on the excise tax or sales tax created. It would not do us any good if this were done and the Congress established the tax at 20 or 30 percent would it?

Otherwise it looks pretty good.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:54 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: JediJones

that, and incumbents usually win.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 9:07:58 AM PST by two23
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To: dirtymac

“It was given away in some states by those good strong conservatives and Christian evangelicals who could not be sullied with voting for someone who was not their perfect candidate. So they gave us Obama again.”

Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 9:09:04 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: DH
Americas will never see the willingness to open small businesses. Trust is gone. And we have to realize that Americans let us down.

Reverend Wright had it wrong. He should have said G damn Democrats.

33 posted on 11/09/2012 9:11:50 AM PST by Logical me
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To: concerned about politics
The problem is the Republican in the beltway always think a "moderate" is the way to win an elections, and they're always wrong.

It's more than that. The beltway Republicans ARE moderates/liberals themselves, and are willing to risk losing elections to advance their causes. When they say we need to be moderate/liberal to win, they're lying and just trying to push their own moderate/liberal agenda for personal reasons, not to win. The Republican elites are as much of an enemy to our cause as the Democrats.

Agreed on the "tax slaves" issue. It's amazing how many people do not notice or care how much tax they pay, especially income tax. They are numb to it. We need a taxpayer revolt in this country. It shouldn't be that hard to engineer with the right messaging.

34 posted on 11/09/2012 9:12:01 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: two23
that, and incumbents usually win.

True. It's remarkable how LITTLE things have changed. Just like Reagan and Bush II, Obama lost the first debate as an incumbent, was on the ropes and then rebounded. Likewise Mondale and Kerry lost on the charisma factor (as Gore, Dukakis, Dole, Bush Sr. against Clinton, etc. did). Romney had a little bit more likability, so the election was pretty close.

35 posted on 11/09/2012 9:16:42 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: dirtymac

It always amazes me, the nerve of some of the posters on this forum to cast aspersions upon people they don’t know the first thing about...

I didn’t vote for Romney, and I’m a Christian Evangelical. I did NOT however, refuse to vote for him “because he was not perfect” or any of the other petty and childish reasons that you people with no apparent moral foundation want to project onto others. All that, beside living in a solidly red state, where voting my conscience could have no impact on the electoral vote.

I did not vote for Romney because he NEVER presented himself as a Conservative leader who would adhere to Constitutional principles. He could have committed to the idea of a government of limited scope and power, or committed to supporting traditional marriage, or committed to the sanctity of life for the unborn; or we could have chosen a candidate who would.

Instead, OUR SIDE ran the etch-a-sketch candidate. And your solution would be to change the minds of millions of conservative voters, millions of social conservatives, millions of Christians through coersion, rather than run a nominee that can EARN their vote?

That’s what it is, too: Coersion. Vote for what you’re given, because you’re not allowed any other options.

We’re talking about ONE MAN failing to stand up for what millions would die to defend, and you blame that failure on those millions, yet spare the man any criticism.

If the Republican party (or any party) ever wants my money, my support, or my vote again, they’ll have to run a candidate that represents my interests. Mitt Romney was not that guy, and I’m not the one who stopped him from being that guy.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:03 AM PST by Hugh the Scot (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: concerned about politics

The GOP elites are now repeating ALL the same reasons that they used to justify nominating Romney in the first place! That we need to be more moderate, inclusive, not run on social issues, etc. It’s ridiculous. The primary voters just got done following their advice right off a cliff. How stupid do they think we are?


37 posted on 11/09/2012 9:20:03 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: DH

No, we haven’t lost, a civil war is coming, then we will see who looses, there is no more money left, they are only delaying the inevitable: war, first there was flood, now comes the fire! Our politicians no longer fear God nor their constituents, He is angry, first He came with a dove, now, He will carry an Ax!


38 posted on 11/09/2012 9:22:37 AM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: JediJones
The GOP elites are now repeating ALL the same reasons that they used to justify nominating Romney in the first place! That we need to be more moderate, inclusive, not run on social issues, etc. It’s ridiculous.

That's why people don't vote. They either get a democrat, or they get a democrat in sheep's clothing. There's no one there to represent them.

39 posted on 11/09/2012 9:33:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: DH
Let the thieving useless mongrel bastards eat each other . . .


             

40 posted on 11/09/2012 9:38:13 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Hugh the Scot

Because of you, and 3-5 million other “principled” people who either didn’t vote of voted for Gary Johnson, you got Obama.

Romney wasn’t my first choice either, but at least we would have a person who loved the USA and would have neutered ObamaCare and gotten the tax code in line. I doubt if President Romney would have bowed to the Saudi King, either.

Your “maverick” nature got you Hussain and Reid. Enjoy.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 9:45:06 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: DH
God help us all. He is our last refuge.

He should have been everyone's first refuge.

Psalm 46: 1-3
God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way,
though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea,
though its waters roar and foam,
though the mountains tremble at its swelling.

42 posted on 11/09/2012 9:47:34 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: IslamE

Nice theory.... the gulag and decline will take decades like in Europe. you will be dead long before and your chains will not wear well till your death.

Look a Detriot.... took decades to kill it...Europe is still goin... hell even Russia is still going... You are a dolt to think this is going away anytime soon via a war or the wrath of God. Haaa keep thinking that as you watch your freedoms and money go away. The political class won on Tues, Republican and Demoncrat. The political elites won.. hard working tax payers offically lost. No party gives a rip. I have more distain today for Republicans than demoncrats.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 9:54:59 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: wac3rd

No. Because of ROMNEY you got Obama.

Romney, and the GOP turned their backs on 3.5 million principled people.

Your liberal nature got you Hussain and Reid. Enjoy.


44 posted on 11/09/2012 10:16:36 AM PST by Hugh the Scot (Walter, I love you, but sooner or later you're going to have to face the fact that you're a moron.)
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To: Persevero

“Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.”

That may be true but fewer voted


45 posted on 11/09/2012 10:18:40 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: Persevero

“Absolutely not fair, evangelicals of every “group” voted higher for Romney than anyone, 79%.”

That may be true but fewer voted. And why would 21% vote for Obama???????? Who are these people?????


46 posted on 11/09/2012 10:20:03 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: dirtymac

Some of them were my mother and my uncle. Old retired people who were convinced that Romney and the GOP were going to take away their Social Security benefits by the MSM.

We let the Democrats define the race, and our candidate did all he could to prevent any distinction between the two. That’s how you lose 21% of the Evangelicals.

Ignorance is preferable to error and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
—Thomas Jefferson


47 posted on 11/09/2012 10:34:11 AM PST by Hugh the Scot
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To: Hugh the Scot

We can stend the next few years discussing how Mitt Romney did not meet the criteria. I did not like George Bush and certainly did not like McCain (loved Sarah Palin though weak on experience); but I voted for them. Your attitude is my way or not at all. Mitt won the primary. I did not like it but he won. No one else won. So the lelection is him, who we don’t like or Obama. Clear choice. Staying home doomed us all.

What you have shown is that the conservative wing of the Republican party cannot be trusted to support the party decisions. Why then would the Republicans do anything for conservatives.

The Democratic party consists of several diverse groups that have no central theme. Gays, Unions, monrities, trial lawyers, etc. They know that if they do not support the party even when it goes against there best interest in the short run, then they will be out in the long run. Where would the minorities be if they did not support the party on gay marriage and open immigration; both going against their core beliefs and best interests.

So yes I am casting aspersions on those conservative who did not vote. . . Temper tantrums do not work well for young children and in politics. It is going to be pretty hard to have a political party when everyone has to be placated or they will not participate.

The main idea in democracy is that everyone has a vote, a selection/decision made, and WE ALL ACCEPT IT.


48 posted on 11/09/2012 10:39:43 AM PST by dirtymac
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To: Sequoyah101

It’s actually being discussed. We have 30 governors and 30 state legislatures. There is no alternative and soon most states will be blue. Let’s have it all out in the open.

Jackson Hole? Boise? Oklahoma City? A lot of nice RED STATE LOCATIONS.

check this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Barnett

and here’s the strategy [click on download]:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1284371

Considering our only option is capitulation, I say we convene a convention. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.


49 posted on 11/09/2012 10:47:45 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Hugh the Scot

Guess those Temple Garments didn’t work out. Ditto for the White Horse Prophecy.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by polkajello
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