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Obama heads to Asia while Congress handles the fiscal cliff (priorities)
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Posted on 11/09/2012 9:38:41 AM PST by chessplayer

We have 52 days, according to the New York Post, to avoid the “fiscal cliff” and the consequences of last year’s budget deal. Businesses will prepare layoff notices to deal with the consequences of sequestration. Thanks to the complexity of the negotiations and the number of people involved, the leaders of both parties will have to work full time to get a deal in place and passed before the consequences of Taxmageddon push the country into another full-fledged recession.

Well … make that one party. The leader of the other — the one who just won re-election — will take a tour of Asia first:

President Obama yesterday announced he’s jetting off on a victory lap around Southeast Asia, despite a new government report warning the Jan. 1 fiscal cliff will plunge the US into a recession and drive the unemployment rate up to 9.1 percent.


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 9:38:46 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Well, Socialism in now the law of the land in the US. There is no avoiding the fiscal cliff. Just delays tactics.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/vampires-werewolves-and-the-post-election-market-reaction/


2 posted on 11/09/2012 9:42:46 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57

” the Jan. 1 fiscal cliff will plunge the US into a recession and drive the unemployment rate up to 9.1 percent.”

Good. In order to rebuild the nation, it needs to be destroyed. If you are a business owner, fire the liberals first.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 9:46:12 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: chessplayer

Don’t forget he has NY and NJ’s back.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 9:56:33 AM PST by Parmy
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To: chessplayer

Congress did this to themselves (and US, in spades) as a boost to 0bama’s re-election. They get no sympathy from me.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 10:06:59 AM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: chessplayer

Let it crash. We’ll emerge on the other side a lot better off. No more “Too Big To Fail.”


6 posted on 11/09/2012 10:08:04 AM PST by upchuck (We are not finished yet. But when nobama chooses some more SCOTUS judges, we will be. For ever.)
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To: chessplayer

This just shows his utter lack of executive skill.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 10:21:33 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: chessplayer

And Chrispy creme christy’s nj and douchbergs NY, are sleeping in the streets and eating out of the garbage while FEMA closes its doors because of another storm. Someone wake me up? You voted in incompetancy for 4 more years. For all those who did...........enjoy the consequences


8 posted on 11/09/2012 10:22:25 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: chessplayer

Well, we know that taxes are going to rise after Boehner caved and sold out Republicans . . . . . . . AGAIN!!!!

However, I also think we need to look at recent history - the senate has failed to produce a budget for the past 3 years, so I find it questionable that anyone believes that they will reach an agreement on a budget deal in 52 days.

Whatever happens, America and, particularly, taxpayers, are going to take it in the shorts in a bad way. We know that New Year’s Eve and New Year’s day will be the beginning of the worst period in American history.

Our choices are VERY limited. We can 1) give in (like Boehner) and take it or we can 2) secede. Frankly, I’m pushing for the latter rather than the former.

Liberals thrive off of the taxes they confiscate primarily from the industriousness and work ethic of conservatives. That’s where most of the federal money comes from. If we secede and take our work ethic and money with us, the liberal paradise that zero is building on our backs will soon crumble like the house of cards that it is.

FWIW, I say let it crumble. We can salvage America, the Constitution and liberty by divorcing the left and making our own representative republic in the “flyover” country that is the middle of America.

And, NO liberals will be allowed in!!


9 posted on 11/09/2012 10:30:21 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: chessplayer
Head of a major US bank says recession coming next year. Very bad one. Did not matter who won the Presidency. It is unavoidable. Second hand info though, take with a grain of salt.

My response was, when did the 2008 recession end ?

10 posted on 11/09/2012 10:31:06 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I think the outcome of the election is a direct influence of the economy for next year. Romney was not going to work miracles overnight, but we are in for a much harder landing now.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 10:38:03 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DustyMoment
However, I also think we need to look at recent history - the senate has failed to produce a budget for the past 3 years, so I find it questionable that anyone believes that they will reach an agreement on a budget deal in 52 days.

Obama and Reid need to be forced to the table. We now have a 4 year historical record proving that Reid and Obama cannot make the tough decisions. All Obama wants is to be able to do TV shows appearances in the future.

The only way to force Obama to the table is impeachment proceedings on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, American Citizens on Hit List, Aiding and Abetting Terrorists in Libya/Egypt/Syria and Firing Drone Missiles at Civilians.

12 posted on 11/09/2012 10:38:17 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: DonaldC
My guess is Romney would have been acting just like Boehner has been acting. And the reason is, they have no choice because they wont make the tough decisions. Having the people accept the tough decisions would require honesty from DC. And that has not occurred in many years.
13 posted on 11/09/2012 10:42:13 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: chessplayer

Looks like Obama just gave away where he keeps his freezer money at.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 10:58:25 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: chessplayer

With all the Obama ranting that he killed Osama, I’d not want to be the Pres. traveling to Asia. He’ll be more exposed to all of the AlQaeda Radicals there?


15 posted on 11/09/2012 11:31:42 AM PST by zbogwan2
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To: chessplayer

I love AF-1 and would hate to see it lost, but damn I wish it would go screaming into the Sea of Japan.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 12:49:06 PM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The only way to force Obama to the table is impeachment proceedings on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, American Citizens on Hit List, Aiding and Abetting Terrorists in Libya/Egypt/Syria and Firing Drone Missiles at Civilians.

Not gonna happen. We have a LOT of justifiable causes to impeach the Won, but none of them will prevail because it would end up as a repetition of the Clinton impeachment.

Obama has shredded the Constitution and given the finger to the rule of law. IMO, the only option left is for the red states to secede. Conservatives are the ones who fund the Democrats' largess and, if we seced and take our industriousness and work ethic with us, the Dems will have nothing but squalor and no one to fund their socialist pipe dreams.

17 posted on 11/09/2012 12:54:12 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment
We have a LOT of justifiable causes to impeach the Won, but none of them will prevail because it would end up as a repetition of the Clinton impeachment.

Not exactly. The Clinton impeachment was hijacked by the RINO's when they primarily came after Clinton about lying with respect to Monica Lewinski. The charges I listed are all very serious charges that occurred while conducting his job as president. We do not even need to bother with the birth certificate issue. Very few lefties want a President managing a hit list that includes American citizens. The MSM has been covering up these acts and the only way to break threw that fog is with an impeachment.

18 posted on 11/09/2012 1:32:15 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Might also add that if the House votes to Impeach and the Senate fails to remove him from office, the states that want secession, will then have the moral high ground and also a legal precedent for building the case for secession. (IE - The US Senate has failed in its duties of checking the tyrannical power of the US President).
19 posted on 11/09/2012 1:35:52 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I fear you missed the point. In the Clinton impeachment, we had the same Congressional makeup that we have today - Republican-controlled House and Democrat-controlled Senate.

Even if the House wanted to open the justifiable door of trying to impeach the Won, it would be squelched in the Senate. Just like the Clinton impeachment.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 2:39:39 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment
The situation with the MSM is not the same. They ran cover for Clinton, but what they have done for Obama, is way beyond what they ever did for Clinton. They refused to cover any of Obama's scandals. They worked as cheerleaders for Obama. Just imagine what will happen when numerous people that voted for Obama, have a light bulb click on in their head and they mumble to themselves, if I would have known all that, I would have never voted for Obama.

The main objective is not to remove Obama from office, although that could even be possible depending on what comes out in the investigation, the main objective is to expose what he has done and show Americans how the MSM covered up all his crimes. And it will tie him up and stall his agenda. And actually having the dems in control of the senate, will make the knee jerk reaction from the usual suspects on the left, more muted. They know he will probably survive the Senate vote.

21 posted on 11/09/2012 3:44:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
the main objective is to expose what he has done and show Americans how the MSM covered up all his crimes.

Waste of time and money. Starting on New Year's day, Mr. and Mrs. Obama supporter will begin to get a clue what Obama is up to, the lies he has told and the cover-up by the DBM.

As we know, it will be too late, but I think most will be able to figure it out for themselves. Of course, the diehard leftists will continue to believe Obama's lie that it is Bush's fault of the fault of Republicans in Congress.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 4:23:52 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment
You are forgetting to add something into the equation. The obvious allegations of voter fraud. So not only will they wonder

if I had only know all that I would not have voted for Obama

they will also wonder

if he could have done all that maybe those allegations of voter fraud are also true

Time to start playing hard ball. The rubber is about to meet the road.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:24 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
You are forgetting to add something into the equation.

I'm not forgetting a thing. I have already made my voice heard on the Pa. fraud thread.

But, what I want to know now, is where is the outrage from conservatives?? Why aren't we "madder than hell and not going to take it anymore"?? Rather than sit here at our keyboards venting our spleens and expressing our frustrations, why aren't we in the street getting the left's attention?? That's what they understand.

We know we aren't going to get this country back through the ballot box. If we want it back, we will have to take it and that won't come with a "please" or "thank you", that will come with us taking it back anyway we have to.

24 posted on 11/09/2012 6:16:32 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

So making the case for Impeachment and supporting it, is not fighting back ? Is not getting the lefts attention ? It is now the only way to get their attention. It is the only way to get them to face reality and pull their heads out of LA LA Land where Obama poops skittles.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 9:09:45 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
So making the case for Impeachment and supporting it, is not fighting back ?

No. C'mon, you have to think beyond high school. Trying to impeach zero will be as effective as Dennis Kucinch's monthly bill to impeach Bush. Every month, for 8 years, he submitted a bill to impeach him. Did it make the national news? The local news? Was it printed on a roll of toilet paper? If that didn't get the DBM's attention (other than a casual mention on a slow news day) this will get less. Remember that the DBM provides as much cover for zero as they can.

It is important to undwerstand that the DBM is fighting for relevance in the world. Prior to the development of the Internet, they had total control of the news because we had no other sources we could access to find out what was really going on the world. Today, we can check sources on the Internet that are in other states or other countries. So, they are scrambling to control the news by not reporting the things that will damage their beloved socialists.

Symbolism over substance is a dem strategy. Let's not co-opt it.

26 posted on 11/10/2012 10:59:50 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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