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Record 70.4 Million Enrolled in Medicaid in 2011: 1 Out of Every 5 Americans
CNS News ^ | November 9, 2012 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/09/2012 12:39:41 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

(CNSNews.com) – A record 70.4 million people were enrolled in the Medicaid health care program for the poor in fiscal year 2011, according to government figures provided to CNSNews.com.

That figure equals about 22 percent of the population, which means there was one person on Medicaid for every 5 Americans in 2011.

The record number of Medicaid enrollees in 2011 – the earliest year for which figures are available – is a count of all persons enrolled in Medicaid for any part of that year, providing the fullest and most accurate count of the size of the entitlement program. (The federal fiscal year in 2011 ran from Oct. 1, 2010 to Sept. 30, 2011.)

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: medicaid; welfare

1 posted on 11/09/2012 12:39:45 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

For those not so disposed as to be in on the meaning of this, Medicaid is far, far different from Medicare.

Medicare recipients are those Americans that have paid their 1.45% of their wages to their so-called ‘account’ whereas Medicaid recipients are largely welfare losers, illegal Mexicans, and other lowlifes who have likely never worked for a W-2 in their adult lives.

The same people who are likely collecting SSI....supplemental income (NOT SSDI where at least the leeches have worked 40 quarters). SSA administers SSI but the funds don’t come from our famed “lock box” but from the general fund; it is nonetheless administered by SSA. Together, SSI and SSDI amounts for TWENTY FIVE PERCENT of all SSA outlays.

Bottom line, they’re effing leeches, no good for nothing. The fact that there are more now collecting is why Obama won.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 12:48:24 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

You have to be elderly to qualify for Medicare. If you happen to get poor before growing old, you go on Medicaid.

I wouldn’t deem them all leeches.

I think it’s a horror story that we have lowered our import taxes and outsourced our jobs overseas and we have this many poor now. This is a shame that stains the records of several administrations.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 12:54:54 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

RIP AMERICA.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 12:59:09 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DannyTN
If you happen to get poor before growing old, you go on Medicaid.

I wouldn’t deem them all leeches.

Almost everyone who ends up in a nursing home will need Medicaid (unless they die before spending all their money).

5 posted on 11/09/2012 12:59:45 PM PST by gdani
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

CLOWARD PIVEN on STEROIDS!!


6 posted on 11/09/2012 12:59:45 PM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Gaffer

I know of a number of people who worked their entire life, then acquired a catastrophic illness and could not work. They then ran out of insurance money and retirement savings and had to go onto medicaid so they could live in a public nursing home until they died. Someday it may happen to you. Just as with any govt program, there are those in real need and then there are a bunch of others like illegal immigrants who are taking advantage of the system.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 1:01:37 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: DannyTN

EVERYONE I have ever met who is on Medicaid is scamming the system.

Met a driver whose family is on it - he’s basically paid in cash, while his wife has a job. Family therefore is below poverty level

Know several Chinese immigrants who simply do not report they are actually married. Gov’t sees wife+kids, no income. Dad owns the business. They all work there at no salary, so everything is under the radar. They qualify for medicaid.

I could site more stories


8 posted on 11/09/2012 1:12:24 PM PST by PGR88
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Do you have a racial breakdown on this figure?


9 posted on 11/09/2012 1:16:04 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: gdani
That's true, but one of the outrageous things is that here in TN, the state charges nursing homes over $2600/month bed tax. There is no way it costs the state $2600/month per bed to inspect nursing homes. So why is the bed tax so high? Because in most cases, the FEDs were paying for it. They created a massive incentive for States to institute high taxes and run up the cost of Medicare to the end users.

2006 TN bed tax

Medicaid bed taxes and institutional bias

10 posted on 11/09/2012 1:17:49 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
...and run up the cost of Medicare Nursing Homes to the end users.
11 posted on 11/09/2012 1:20:51 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“You ain’t seen nothin’ yet” Barack Hussein Obama II


12 posted on 11/09/2012 1:22:57 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: PGR88
"EVERYONE I have ever met who is on Medicaid is scamming the system."

You need to volunteer more helping the truly needy. Drop in on the local developmentally disabled day care and see if you can help them some way. You'll meet some truly needy people that need that program and aren't just scamming it.

Disclaimer, I don't volunteer like that, myself, though I recognize it would be good to do. But I did have a job where I got exposure to them.

13 posted on 11/09/2012 1:24:35 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
You have to be elderly to qualify for Medicare.

No, you don't. Anybody who has paid in for 40 quarters and becomes disabled and draws s.s.d.i., after 2 years of disability is auto enrolled in medicare parts A & B.

If your income level is low enough you can get medicaid or medicare and medicaid.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 1:26:26 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Gaffer

Actually LOTS of people on Medicaid do work ,although they don’t pay any federal income tax. They have opened the eligibility to the point where lots of low income earners now qualify.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 1:28:09 PM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: gdani
Almost everyone who ends up in a nursing home will need Medicaid (unless they die before spending all their money

Yep, my uncle was in a nursing home for 18 months and after his life savings were exhausted he died.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 1:29:31 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Gaffer
my adult dtr who has dystonia and Aspergers than is a leech...they give her just over $400 a month plus the health care....because she lives with us, she does not get a free phone nor food stamps...

if we kicked her out on the street, she could get much more money and many more benefits....thousands more in fact, because she probably would get housing, food stamps, utilities paid, etc...

Medicaid is used by lots of working parents to cover their young kids....if you have 5 kids and you work for $30,000 a yr, your kids are all on medicaid....

17 posted on 11/09/2012 1:29:46 PM PST by cherry
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To: Gaffer
my adult dtr who has dystonia and Aspergers than is a leech...they give her just over $400 a month plus the health care....because she lives with us, she does not get a free phone nor food stamps...

if we kicked her out on the street, she could get much more money and many more benefits....thousands more in fact, because she probably would get housing, food stamps, utilities paid, etc...

Medicaid is used by lots of working parents to cover their young kids....if you have 5 kids and you work for $30,000 a yr, your kids are all on medicaid....

18 posted on 11/09/2012 1:30:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: Kirkwood

And I know of a number of cases where those people worked to transfer assets before applying for Medicaid to shield their heirs’ inheritance. We got stuck with the bill.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 1:32:39 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: DannyTN

I have no doubt there are truly needy, but such massive Gov’t involvement in medicine is what is creating scarcity anyway.

You are taking the leftist argument - ANY change to the corrupt free-for-all that is taking place now will hurt someone. Can’t have that! So nothing is done.

Wait until we turn into Argentina or Venezuela. There will be plenty of poor to worry about then.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 1:33:57 PM PST by PGR88
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“There’s no such thing as a free lunch. Somebody always has to pay.”

The Democrats know that. Here’s their saying....

“Yeah, there’s no free lunch, but if we stick the taxpayers with the bill, then it don’t cost us a thing.”


21 posted on 11/09/2012 1:39:50 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Gaffer

So what are you going to do about it other than complain? Nothing.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 1:45:58 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Gaffer
And I know of a number of cases where those people worked to transfer assets before applying for Medicaid to shield their heirs’ inheritance. We got stuck with the bill.

Perfectly legal, even if you or I might not like it.

Not much different than stashing money in offshore accounts to avoid federal taxes.

23 posted on 11/09/2012 1:54:20 PM PST by gdani
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If you look back upon your life, and you are truthful with yourself, you will see that your present circumstances were caused by the choices you made. There is the measure of bad luck, but most of that can be compensated for if you made the proper decisions in your life. I cleaned toilets so I could afford university tuition. I decided what kind of quality of life I wanted, and planned and worked for that. What I didn’t plan on, was the number of people who didn’t plan for their future and now can’t have the lifestyle they desire, and they think I should be forced to help them out. The LAW OF EFFECT says that you generally get more of the behavior that is rewarded and less of the behavior that is punished. If we punish the people who work hard and plan by forcing them to give up what they have earned to others who did not successfully plan out their lives, then we will have fewer people working hard and planning out their lives. If we reward people who don’t work hard and plan out their lives with money from those who have worked hard and planned, then we will have more people not working hard and planning their lives. This is why socialism always fails. The rewards and punishments are backwards. We have to follow the LAW.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 1:59:36 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I read that Texas has more people on Medicaid than Iowa, Arkansas, or Mississippi have people.

The numbers are astounding.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 1:59:46 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: DannyTN
And for every one of those I can show you two homeless shelters where they trade stories on how to screw the system.

I've worked with them (the homless and disabled) for the past fifteen years in one shape or form, and I stand by PGR88's assessment.


26 posted on 11/09/2012 3:21:17 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Record 70.4 Million Enrolled in Medicaid in 2011: 1 Out of Every 5 Americans

Parasites who contributed zero ......... 70.4 million
People who contributed for decades. 47.3 million.

Whats wrong with this picture?

27 posted on 11/09/2012 7:34:26 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: DannyTN
You have to be elderly to qualify for Medicare. If you happen to get poor before growing old, you go on Medicaid.

No, moron.

You qualify for Medicare because you're old and paid for it all your life.

You get Medicai because you're neither old, nor ever paid a cent, but learned how to game the system and how to have the working taxpayers support you.

28 posted on 11/09/2012 7:42:37 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Depends on the state:
GA:
You think you are pregnant
You are a child or teenager
You are age 65 or older
You are legally blind
You have a disability
You need nursing home care

As I understand it, one is ineligible from 19 to 65 unless one is blind, disabled or pregnant. In general, Adults 19 to 65 need not apply.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 7:51:57 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: DannyTN
You need to volunteer more helping the truly needy. Drop in on the local developmentally disabled day care and see if you can help them some way. You'll meet some truly needy people that need that program and aren't just scamming it.

That is a minuscule percentage of the total; You know that and I know that.

We know damned well, those are NEVER counted among the leeches and the parasites.

30 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:47 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Check on the explosion in the number of "disabled" persons in the last 4 years and we can go from there.
Flying saucers?

My first hand experience is typical.

I met someone who was close to illiterate, but able-bodied, and unemployed for years now.
His wife is on disability.
He is currently applying for permanent disability.

He and his wife went to a casino a recent weekend. His wife lost $500 and had to phone her sister to send her money to get home. He related he was pissed.

These people are so sure of their right to entitlements, that he had no hesitation in telling me his exciting story. We were strangers two months before.

31 posted on 11/09/2012 8:02:50 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911
Check on the explosion in the number of "disabled" persons in the last 4 years and we can go from there.

You have a point on that one. I didn't factor that one in.

I should have said honest persons between 19-65 need not apply. :)

32 posted on 11/09/2012 8:07:21 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Gaffer

“And I know of a number of cases where those people worked to transfer assets before applying for Medicaid to shield their heirs’ inheritance. “

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I’m elderly. Everyone elderly person I know has done that.

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33 posted on 11/09/2012 8:17:43 PM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

There is a difference between estate planning and Medicaid fraud. Go look it up.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 9:03:02 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: publius911
That is a minuscule percentage of the total; You know that and I know that.

I don't know that. As far as I know, most people on Medicare are truly poor.

35 posted on 11/09/2012 10:10:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ex91B10
"And for every one of those I can show you two homeless shelters where they trade stories on how to screw the system."

Homeless shelters? Well heaven forbid that homeless people qualify for Medicare! /s

36 posted on 11/09/2012 10:15:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: publius911
"1 Out of Every 5 Americans .... Whats wrong with this picture? "

Oh I don't know, maybe 25% unemployment?

Raise the import tariffs back up that our founding fathers had in place and put Americans back to work, working for Americans.

37 posted on 11/09/2012 10:19:39 PM PST by DannyTN
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