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Barack Obama, at fiscal cliff’s edge, insists wealthy Americans must pay...
http://www.vancouversun.com ^ | November 9, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 11/09/2012 1:17:53 PM PST by CreviceTool

“This was a central question during the election,” Obama said in his first postelection comments on the economy. “The majority of Americans agree with my approach.”

Following up, Obama’s spokesman said later that the president would veto any legislation extending tax cuts for families making $250,000 or more.

The president, speaking in the White House East Room, said he wasn’t wedded to every detail of the plans he outlined during the election, adding, “I’m open to compromise.” But he offered no indication that he was willing to back down.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; sourcetitlenoturl; taxes
First they came for my health care and I did not speak out because I was insured.

Then they came for the higher income earners and small business owners, and I did not speak out because I was NOT in those income brackets.

Then they came for my Social Security benefits and I did not speak out because I hadn't reached age 62.

Then they came for my retirement accounts and savings, and there was no one left to speak out for me.

1 posted on 11/09/2012 1:17:58 PM PST by CreviceTool
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To: CreviceTool

Will all the rich please leave so we can speed up the process and I can sharpen my pitchfork


2 posted on 11/09/2012 1:19:46 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: CreviceTool
I think that rumble I hear off in the distance is the wealthy pulling their money out of American investments and companies, and moving their assets offshore into shell corporations and numbered bank accounts. Very quickly Obama will learn he killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
3 posted on 11/09/2012 1:21:50 PM PST by apillar
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To: CreviceTool

He gave Warren Buffet a medal.

Warren doesn’t pay.

Not even the 15%.

He owes back taxes.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 1:22:46 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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To: CreviceTool

Screw that, let the tax cuts expire and everyone will be seeing who the tax cuts were really benefiting.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 1:22:57 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CreviceTool

Barack, you’re going to eat those words some day. How dare you. Now, all the people who can start businesses and invest to make jobs are going to take their assets and hide, leave, put them away. You are deliberately trying to destroy this nation.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 1:23:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: CreviceTool

A majority of Americans don’t agree with Obama’s approach. He was helped back into office by dead people and fictional characters.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 1:23:55 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: apillar
I think that rumble I hear off in the distance is the wealthy pulling their money out of American investments and companies, and moving their assets offshore into shell corporations and numbered bank accounts. Very quickly Obama will learn he killed the goose that laid the golden egg.

Zactly. Obama Clause fancies himself a chess player but is actually not educated enough for tic, tic, toe.

8 posted on 11/09/2012 1:29:55 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: CreviceTool

I always wanted to be a member of the wealthy class. I guess we all are now.


9 posted on 11/09/2012 1:30:34 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: CreviceTool

Look folks, Obama got a mandate.

I say the wealthy should turn all wealth in excess of $10 million to the federal government.

Liquidate all stocks.

Make corporations an illegal enterprise.

Close up the evil banks. Oh yes, that means all of them.

I would advocate for allowing people to own private property, but that doesn’t really reflect what people voted for. I’m probably wrong.

Let Obama have all wealth. And in the second year, there will be no wealth. There will be no production. There will be no land owners. There will be no evil banks. Wall Street will no longer exist.

In short, we will have a more perfect union. Every person will be poor.

Bliss is attained.

All praise the son of Allah, the grand imam in chief.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 1:31:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 47 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: CreviceTool

Pay for what?


11 posted on 11/09/2012 1:36:58 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: ronnie raygun

I anyone surprised that an Obama victory wouldn’t mean higher taxes and class warfare?

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/vampires-werewolves-and-the-post-election-market-reaction/


12 posted on 11/09/2012 1:42:21 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: CreviceTool

Smart rich people have been preparing for this and will protect their “ass”ets as it were.

Stupid rich people, such as those in Hollywood, will be unprepared. I hope these Obama supporters in Hollywood get stripped of their wealth because, afterall, they did not really build it/earn it and they really don’t need that much money and the liberal bureaucrats know better how to spend our money anyhow. /sarc ???....not really


13 posted on 11/09/2012 1:43:59 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: CreviceTool

By encouraging the Republicans to offer proposals, he is setting them up. Anything they say that is in opposition to his plan will be savaged by his allies in the DBM.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 1:45:29 PM PST by 1raider1
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To: CreviceTool

We live in Ohio and went to NY for fertility treatment.

The nurse said it was her duty to inform us that it is illegal in NY to bring semen in from out of state. To conform with the letter of the law, I would need to wait until we crossed the state line before I “processed” my deposit.

I couldn’t help but wonder if they had “sperm police” in NY state and, if so, what their badges looked like.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 1:50:41 PM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: chrisser

I’m sorry.

I had two threads open and posted this in the wrong one...

Should be here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2957690/posts


16 posted on 11/09/2012 1:52:26 PM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: 1raider1

They need to say they won’t propose anything.
He has to send it down to them, and he owns it, and the consequences.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 1:53:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: apillar

“Very quickly Obama will learn he killed the goose that laid the golden egg.”

Bronco Bama will NEVER learn that lesson, it simply does not fit into the rather rigid world-view he has chosen to embrace.

In his world, wealth is criminal, except, of course, when people of his mind-set are enjoying the benefits of said wealth. The very fact the investors, after being plucked bald before they have opportunity to invest, choose not to invest in the enterprises that are designated as “worthy” in the eyes of the esteemed wise men of the Current Regime, is just further proof they are pirates who must be stripped of any means whatsoever of supporting enterprises that are NOT in the prime interest of the Current Regime. Very circular reasoning, and almost completely devoid of any logic or structure.

Cause and effect have no relationship in this approach to governance. One might as well be trying to reason with a nest of vipers.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 1:57:25 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: CreviceTool

Both sides claim they are willing to compromise. If this is a critical issue, why not split it down the middle - raise the top margin rate by half the increase O wants. Both sides get some of what they wanted, but not all, and neither side gets a disaster.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 2:00:18 PM PST by expat2
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To: CreviceTool

Let’s do it Barack’s way, and make America pay. Give him what he wants.


20 posted on 11/09/2012 2:21:40 PM PST by pallis
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To: expat2

The tax increase will likely happen, but the commensurate budget cuts in social spending will be illusory. Real cuts will only come in defense which Barry Soetero secretly wants anyhow and the political consequences, of which, are more palatable then reductions in social spending. Dependent people are more worried about getting free things and less concerned about protecting this Republic.


21 posted on 11/09/2012 2:22:13 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 1raider1

So true. The GOP should be asking Obama “so what are you going to do?” and then just stand back and let the collapse begin.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 2:29:17 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CreviceTool

I am not willing to walk into the gas chamber of debt and taxation.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 2:29:59 PM PST by gdzla
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To: expat2
You obviously don't understand what the O-man means by compromise. He won, you see, so compromise means conservatives must compromise their core principles and do what the O-man says.

Get it now?

24 posted on 11/09/2012 2:37:02 PM PST by Don Carlos (01/20/2009 - Begin the Obama Interregnum. Will it ever end?)
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To: CreviceTool

No you liar O, the majority of Americans still don’t agree with your approach. Rather, your party ginned up more voter activity. You’d be screaming about how “disproportionate” the GOP vote was if Mitt had prevailed.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 2:40:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 3Fingas

And, the revenue will fall in spite of higher tax RATES which does not equate to more tax REVENUE... kind of like “beatings will continue until morale improves”


26 posted on 11/09/2012 2:42:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 3Fingas

They can cut defense spending all they want. They can even get rid of the military all together. The military was there to protect the United States of America. Unfortunately, it has already fallen from within.


27 posted on 11/09/2012 2:45:52 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: CreviceTool

The less painful for those laying siege is to avoid loss by assualt and,instead, rely on attrition. Starve your enemy to submission by withdrawal of intellectual, material, and spiritual sustenance. Then, your enemy will either support you or retreat to the shadows of doubt and disbelief.

BGood......Ross


28 posted on 11/09/2012 2:51:59 PM PST by RossB
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, higher tax rate != more revenue. More economic activity does increase tax revenue. Simple, but confiscatory demotards never read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and don’t realize or refuse to acknowledge that failing civilizations always increase the tax burden till economic activity lessens. Thereby, inviting further tax increases and further reduced revenues — death spiral.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 2:54:01 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: CreviceTool

Let it burn....


30 posted on 11/09/2012 3:01:51 PM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: CreviceTool

He has never been forced to prove that small businesses that file as an S corporation that just make it into the 250K “profit” area are RICH. OR that all that money is 100% pocketed by only the owner, and not to being plowed back into the business, expanding the business, paying off debt, etc.

In the same token the Republicans FAILED to get this point across and get enough people to understand this fact of life.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 3:03:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: CreviceTool

From what Limbaugh said, wealthy[I do not refer to anyone that supports obama as “American”] individuals overwhelmingly supported obama. The owner of the Pittsburg Steelers still does. So I don’t give a damn what he does to them.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 3:09:46 PM PST by sport
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To: apillar

Of course....that’s the whole point/
HE knows the rich already pay virtually all the taxes.
Certainly the RICH know they pay virtually all the taxes
already.
Obama is always putting it this way ....”a little bit more”,
which is something his followers can easily memorize, and it feels so good in their guileless mouths.
What Obama is cynically after, with that “little bit more” is nothing less than to accelerate the trend that’s been underway for years: a further disinvolvement of American business with the business of America. He can thus point to
that, and say “See! I told you about them!” But I don’t think as you do that he plans on further killing the goose that laid the golden egg.His master plan is to invest American taxpayer money in a myriad of “investments”, some of them ideological (Money to the Muslim Brotherhood),some of them purely economic (funding oil exploration in Brazil, rather than here, for example)-—you see, Obama is using America and its wealth (that means US) for objectives that have nothing clearly to do with the development of a healthy American, homegrown economy. That’s not what he’s about.
He is ever so much closer to fulfilling the role I sensed he was playing from the very beginning: he is the EMISSARY of cultures and economies, and national interests and religious/ideological identities NOT OUR OWN. Hey, all these
“folks” need representation, and they’ve got OBAMA~


33 posted on 11/09/2012 3:13:20 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: expat2

One of the bittersweet benefits when taxes are levied on taxpayers making $250,000 jointly will be the “disproportionate” increase in taxes that will come from the citizens of the Blue states as compared to the Red states.
Of course it will be another issue for ‘EQUALITY”


34 posted on 11/09/2012 3:16:53 PM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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To: Don Carlos

I don’t doubt that that is what he would like, but it is up to the other side to negotiate as effectively as he does. They have plenty of leverage since tax legislation must begin in the House.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 3:33:13 PM PST by expat2
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To: 3Fingas

Too bad the calculus did not exist in Rome’s day, not that they would pay any more attention to it than our dear Big Ears who said even high school math challenges him too much.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 4:04:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: chrisser

NY, a great place to j.o. in?


37 posted on 11/09/2012 4:05:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: expat2

Well, we were all saying we would put heat on Mitt if he strayed.

Triple heat needs to be put on Boehner!!!


38 posted on 11/09/2012 4:06:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Enterprise

So true.. I think Obummer wants to destroy America.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 4:08:42 PM PST by modernline2009
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To: modernline2009

He hates what it was, what it stood for.

Blind liberal. There was a reason the US was called the worst country in the world except for all the others.

He and his are relatively insulated from the disaster it will turn into if he gets his way. He’ll be lionized back in Kenya if worse comes to worst.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 4:12:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: CreviceTool

I propose that the Congress pass a 75% income tax on anyone who directly or indirectly makes their income from the sales of tickets to the American public. This will primarily affect actors, professional athletes, and musicians. (Think Clooney, Pitt, Jay Z, Kanye, etc) The base of obama shouldn’t mind as they support higher taxes anyway.


41 posted on 11/09/2012 4:20:23 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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