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Obama To Wealthy Americans: Read My Lips, I WILL Raise Your Taxes! ["Majority Agree W/My Approach"]
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | November 09, 2012 | TOBY HARNDEN

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:39:31 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: Persevero

Also, it refers to those who come into America and deliberately ignore and destroy our principles. This is “mongrelization”, destroying our ideals, thus, our culture.


51 posted on 11/09/2012 4:46:19 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

“flood America with 3rd world mongrels,”


Mongrels? That is disgusting.

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52 posted on 11/09/2012 4:48:56 PM PST by Mears
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To: yldstrk
how much are you gonna chip in ubama and your little friends too, Taraza Heinz- Kerry, the Kennedys, your rich bundler friends in Chi town, all your buds that have made millions feeding from the public trough, huh?

Oh come on! You forget the other half of Obamanomics - crony capitalism. Friends of "The Won" get special treatment.

53 posted on 11/09/2012 4:52:00 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Wolf: “Hey, what’s that lamb pulling out of his shaggy wool?! YIKES! IT’S A .357!!!
OK, we’ll have a chef’s salad!!!”

There. Fixed it;))


54 posted on 11/09/2012 4:52:12 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Steelfish

Defund him Boehner, you RINO coward.

Or are you happy that he’s holding your head in the toilet?

This is sickening, especially knowing that surrender is virtually certain.


55 posted on 11/09/2012 4:54:00 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Steelfish
Obama To Wealthy Americans: Read My Lips, I WILL Raise Your Taxes! ["Majority Agree W/My Approach"]...On the other hand, the majority returned the hold-the-line-on taxes Republicans to the House, so go pound sand....
56 posted on 11/09/2012 5:00:15 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Steelfish

prepared to hear the definition of wealth change throughout the next 4 years,,for now it’s based on income,,,then it’s homeowners,,then it’s people who have a nest egg/retirement,,,then it’s people who own cars,,and people who own property,,,,,etc

Get ready


57 posted on 11/09/2012 5:11:16 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Steelfish
...inviting them to the White House next week to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff but insisting any compromise will include higher taxes on the rich.

Yet, he'll meet Ahmadinejad with no preconditions.

58 posted on 11/09/2012 5:26:56 PM PST by kanawa
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To: austinaero

You are 100% correct on that. Then combine your list with Napolitano’s list of potential terrorists and ‘the enemy’ will be defined so that it can be isolated and targeted.


59 posted on 11/09/2012 6:04:21 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Mears

What is disgusting is that we allow these people into the country. They live and act like animals. They turn cities into war zones. That’s what I mean by “mongrels.” It’s an unwanted animal. You have a problem with that?


60 posted on 11/09/2012 6:15:18 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Steelfish

Just wait until the punk POTUS decides to start confiscating IRA’s and 401K’s.


61 posted on 11/09/2012 6:20:35 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; GrandJediMasterYoda

Canada is looking like the best option. We’re right next door and long-term economic prospects are good. We’ll take a hit from the US recession but resource exports to Asia should soften the blow. Businesses moving here will have the advantage of our lower corporate tax rates while Obamacare will erase the US advantage on payroll taxes.


62 posted on 11/09/2012 6:22:55 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Squawk 8888
Canada is looking like the best option.

Alberta rocks!

63 posted on 11/09/2012 6:24:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Steelfish

“I won.”


64 posted on 11/09/2012 6:28:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: dfwgator

No question Alberta is the best place place to be and Saskatchewan is also very business-friendly. Ontario’s a mess right now but it looks like the Liberals’ days are numbered.


65 posted on 11/09/2012 6:33:02 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Venturer
When Obama finish’s we will all be screwed.

Maybe. But at this point I'm mad enough to start eating sandpaper just to make sure nobody enjoys it.

66 posted on 11/09/2012 6:37:31 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Steelfish
With one MAJOR contingency, taxing ONLY the rich is entirely justifiable from a historical perspective.

More specifically, noting that Thomas Jefferson was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, Jefferson had noted that, in his time, the federal government was financed entirely by taxes paid by the rich on imported goods.

"The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the General Government are levied (emphasis added). … Our revenues liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings." --Thomas Jefferson to Thaddeus Kosciusko, 1811.

In fact, noting that many of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention were wealthy, George Washington being a Bill Gates of his time, I surmise that the same rich men who drafted the Constitution, were willing to obligate not only themselves, but also their rich friends and other rich Americans to bear the entire burden of paying for the federal government that the delegates were establishing to operate.

The MAJOR exception to the historical information above is the following. As I have posted elsewhere, Justice John Marshall had officially clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues. In other words, Congress can lay taxes only for issues which it can justify under Section 8 of Article I, and minor federal goverment expenses mentioned in the Constitution.

In fact, I'm disturbed that regardless that Justice Roberts referenced Gibbons v. Ogden in the Obamacare opinion, he "overlooked" that Justice John Marshall had clarified in Gibbons that, not only is healthcare a 10th Amendmen protected state power issue, but that Marshall had also clarified in general that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphasis added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So regardless that the federal government was once financed entirely from taxes that the rich paid for imported goods, the Supreme Court had also clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, issues which Congress cannot justify under Section 8 of Article I of the Constitution.

Note that the rich had a big incentive to use their influence to limit federal spending.

Finally, noting that most of the federal taxes that we are now paying are arguably illegal by Justice Marshall's clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes, there's no way that the rich today can uniquely bear the burden of paying for the feds to operate.

67 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:44 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Squawk 8888
Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that Canada has a pretty tight immigration policy. And I don't hear many Canadians talking about amnesty for illegal aliens.
68 posted on 11/09/2012 7:18:03 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: qaz123

No, the problem is spending, not taxes. Why doesn’t anyone ever mention the massive waste and fraud in government programs? Nobody should pay a dime more in taxes until the government gets its house in order. Fat chance.


69 posted on 11/09/2012 8:39:22 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: austinaero
prepared to hear the definition of wealth change throughout the next 4 years,,for now it’s based on income,,,then it’s homeowners,,then it’s people who have a nest egg/retirement,,,then it’s people who own cars,,and people who own property,,,,,etc

Obama is playing the perpetual "envy" game. He really doesn't care if more taxes are actually raised or not as a result of the tax increases... and there never is an end in this game. When this increase doesn't close the deficit, and it won't, he'll prattle on about more "shared sacrifice".

Orwell encapsulated this political belief in this horrifying quote in "1984",

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever."

70 posted on 11/09/2012 8:42:05 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: hirn_man

True, but if you have the capital to start a business you’ll get fast-tracked. Also, a US citizen with professional credentials and a job offer can come in anytime.


71 posted on 11/09/2012 9:04:01 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: LouAvul

“Sorry to anyone offended. “

I’m not actually offended, I just don’t want lurkers to start classifying FR as a racist type site.


72 posted on 11/09/2012 10:29:30 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Steelfish
‘We can't just cut our way to prosperity,’

He's talking about the government - not the Nation. It seems that when I stopped spending wastefully, even with the same amount of money coming in, my net worth began to rise...

73 posted on 11/10/2012 4:26:54 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Persevero

It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with any of/all of these people coming to America and turning it into the same type of sewer they just came from. Sort of what those stinking kalifornians have done to Washington State, Oregon, Montana and Colorado.


74 posted on 11/10/2012 6:46:35 AM PST by LouAvul
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