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Romney lost by playing defense, Santorum says

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:51:17 PM PST by Arthurio

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To: Arthurio; P-Marlowe; wmfights

Was it getting stuff, was it playing defense, was it the media?

As I’ve reflected on this over the past 2 days, my sense is that the agenda, the discussion, the very knowledge that people possess was the issue.

That makes the media weigh in more heavily than anything else in terms of obama’s victory.

On the one hand, a large segment of them have been lulled into a permanent stupor, getting their news from the likes of letterman, snl, the view, and even sitcoms. On the other hand, there are folks who listen to news, but the majority of news outlets are so one-sidedly liberal that they simply don’t hear the message being proposed by the other guy. There is a blackout of opposition information.

It was THAT blackout that made Romney’s decision to play defense such a crucial mistake. After being introduced to the people, not as a demon but as a businessman by his first debate, he should have continued to use the debates and his access to coverage to talk about the information the people weren’t getting. He didn’t. He chose to say repeatedly “I can create jobs.”

The bottom line for the future of the Republican Party is not really demographics. Their future lies in gaining more media access that is free and unhindered. Accomplishing that is possible by total capitulation of conservative principles and becoming liberal lite to the democrats liberal heavy. They might then get a hearing, and that’s being bandied about by such as Brit Hume, Bill Crystal, etc.

If that is unacceptable, then Republicans must find just as effective, far-reaching, fast, and entertaining news sources as enjoyed by the Democratic Party. One idea is to take over one of the major networks. Fox + ABC, for example, would considerably level the playing field.

My sense, though, is that such a takeover will not be allowed by those who trade in power and change.

That leaves a period of crisis that will change the fundamental way people think as a possible route for changing the nation. A depression, a lost war, a plague...who knows. But a day of fiscal reckoning is approaching. There is a day when spending more than one’s income + one’s borrowing will come to an abrupt end.

The nation then could try war to take what it wants from other nations, but economic weakness leads to military weakness, so the longer the fiscal insanity continues, the weaker our military will become.

Financial collapse is now an imaginable future.

51 posted on 11/09/2012 5:11:03 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut
Why does the media support him anyway??? What advantage is there to them if he is in power?

The advantage is the adoption of policies they believe in. The media is full of leftists and, I'm sure, even a healthy sprinkling of marxists (NYT would be one example of such an enclave).

They really believe they are morally superior in believing in free sex, socialism, anti-christian philosophies, etc. Therefore, they are eager to join in the effort to promote these things.

Anyway, I wish everyone would stop blaming Romney for this loss.

Agreed. But this will go on for awhile. IMO Romney is to be respected even more for engaging in a process where your own people stab you in the back again and again if you fail in the thankless job of running for office but obviously vast numbers here who will not agree with me on that.

Have a good weekend, FRiend.

52 posted on 11/09/2012 5:11:14 PM PST by what's up
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To: Arthurio

The Massachusetts Hillary, backed by the global financial phony paper makers, lost, and with it the attempt at government installed financial fascism.

Even the youth vote smelled this one out.

53 posted on 11/09/2012 5:11:57 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Steelfish
Talk is so cheap after an election. Woulda coulda shoulda grows on trees. Santorum proved himself to be an inept loser, even worse than Romney, but he has one idea in here that is important: This election was about ideology-- "vision" if you must--but not about demographics, soundbites, all the other rubbish.

I have said many times, the democrat platform has been unchanged since the 1930's and it was unchanged this year: "Vote for us and we will take money from other people and give it to you." As simple as it has always been.

54 posted on 11/09/2012 5:13:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Steelfish
Actually, Santorum lost in the election of 2006, not "the wave election of 2008." But what the hell. If you want to make up history as you go along who am I to stop you.
55 posted on 11/09/2012 5:20:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Arthurio

There are way too many “this is why / what happened” theories out there, with each one certain they’re right.

56 posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:47 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Arthurio
"What Mitt Romney, in my opinion, didn't do was go out and vigorously defend the beliefs that he said he espoused and didn't go on the offense."

Romney couldn't credibly defend beliefs that he didn't really hold. He was betrayed by his own track record, of all things. LOL.

57 posted on 11/09/2012 5:38:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Steelfish

I believe Santorum lost in 2006, not 2008. I thought he came into the Senate in the “Class of 1994” with Newt Gingrich’s House Republicans.

58 posted on 11/09/2012 5:40:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Hugin

Couldn’t agree more. He is simply spouting this to fulfill his ego and stem himself up for Iowa in 2016. I am sure, if we nominated Santorum, he would have had a Todd Akin moment.

59 posted on 11/09/2012 5:55:18 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Gator113
Renowned political expert and incredibly successful politician, Rick Santorum, has spoken. LMAO


60 posted on 11/09/2012 5:57:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: what's up


61 posted on 11/09/2012 6:00:33 PM PST by PrayAndVoteConservesInLibsOut (PRAYING FOR AMERICA EVERY DAY!)
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To: supremedoctrine
The people would have approved. Remember, it was Mitt Romney's aggressiveness that won him that 1st debate. I think Ryan would have probably scored mucho macho points if he "bravo"- slapped that Hyena's grin off of Biden's face. dang, that would have been great t.v. and I think they may have even won the election with that. That's what I would have done if given the chance.
62 posted on 11/09/2012 6:04:53 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: manc

This is insane. I can’t believe we are just going to ignore all the voter fraud evidence and roll over. So, why even have a Republican party anymore? Do give these assclowns pensions and prestige? Close it up, let the Democrats have one party rule. This is what this amounts to anyway.

63 posted on 11/09/2012 6:07:27 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Arthurio

RINO File.

64 posted on 11/09/2012 6:40:41 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Gator113

All that aside we did run a defensive campaign. We ran a moderate that couldn’t even beat McCain, and now you can LYAO.

Personally I am not laughing.

65 posted on 11/09/2012 6:50:28 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot

Perhaps you should pass the basket around and take up a collection of relevance, because that is what Saintorum is looking for. LOL

66 posted on 11/09/2012 7:12:54 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: manc

Plus, talk about losing elections, Rick has a PhD there.

Election was stolen, plain and simple.

67 posted on 11/10/2012 6:07:52 AM PST by Memphis Moe
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To: riri

You and I have the same feelings, why have a party when the other party just keeps cheating and ten our side just rolls over, 2016 will be no different and now I keep hearing we have to reach out to hispanics, .

Give more amnesty more big Govt, maybe we should have got Rubio n the ticket instead of Paul though Paul is a good guy and a good conservative he did not bring anything.

We have more hispanics in top positions tan the left and yet we never promote that so how do we do all this reaching out lke the elitist pundits keep saying?

68 posted on 11/10/2012 8:04:09 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Memphis Moe

St Luci county had a 140% turnout and it went obama.

COL Allen West is doing his recount and finding that this election was stolen plain and simple, Republican votes were not counted and Dems did massive fraud.


69 posted on 11/10/2012 8:10:01 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: blueunicorn6
I think Santorum's exactly right. Romney lost the election in the third debate when he refused to go after Obama on Benghazi and played it safe instead.

Romney could've put the election away in the third debate and made hurricane sandy a non-event, but chose not to.

Instead, Romney showed voters that there was little to any difference between him and Obama on foreign affairs. That gave voters no reason to vote Obama out and Romney in. In short, Romney cost Romney the election.

I will also say, I type the above with a very heavy heart. Romney wasn't my first (or second) choice in the Republican Primaries, but I do believe in my heart of hearts he would've been a MUCH better President than Obama, and Romney's economic policies were the right cure for what ails America.

Those who stayed home out of 'principal' should be ashamed of themselves. Look what hell you wrought on the country by doing so, you sorry-assed SOB's.

70 posted on 11/10/2012 8:14:52 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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