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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:25 PM PST by tsowellfan
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Milton Friedman had the message and it's one we need to spread!
2 posted on 11/09/2012 4:06:10 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated

While I will not moderate my values, I question whether clearly articulating them will help. I have talked to more than a few "takers" recently. They do not want things articulated, they want things given to them. While we articulate, they take, and continue to vote for the one who promises to give them the most. My gut feeling is, this will continue till the whole system comes crashing down, but hey, what do I know, I am just a working stiff.

3 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:58 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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I don't think the problem is that people naively misunderstand conservative positions. They misrepresent them to rationalize taking up a feel-good package that offers free stuff to the poor, and absolves the well-to-do of any guilt for their own hypocritical lifestyles. It's a little optimistic to think that this voting trend has been one big mistake, and people just didn't know what the other side was offering. People aren't dumb as much as they are immoral. In the Soviet Union, people knew the system was horrible, but no one was willing to give up their privileges, first--so they all miserably carried on until there was nothing left. That said, on the personal responsibility front, it would be nice to start chipping away at the Marxism being taught in the public schools and universities. Articulating positions over there would go a long way in trickling down some sense to the rest of society.
6 posted on 11/09/2012 4:32:11 PM PST by GlaucusRising
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Running a fake conservative was doomed from the start.

Look for more of the same in 2016.

Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, etc.

Republicanism is compromised, ruined and failed. Corrupted.

Conservatism is alive and well, just not in the GOP.

Principles are not principles if you put party ahead of them.

Moderation is compromise. Compromising principles are why we are where we are.

How can a candidate articulate values they do not have?

How can a candidate articulate values their entire careers demonstrate the opposite?

How can a candidate articulate values their party rejects?

Turn out the lights, the party's over.

Conservatism is not just articulated, it is a way of life.

8 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:52 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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"Our Values Do Not Need to Be Moderated, They Need to Be Clearly Articulated"

Our conservative principles not only need to be clearly articulated, but they need to be linked to historical successes, assigned some kind of numerical or monetary value, and most of all be distilled into a simple, effective phrase that will resonate with the average voter. We failed to motivate.

For example, Obama has used: "Yes, we can!" (and its Spanish equivalent), "Hope and Change", "Change We Can Believe In", and this year he used, "Bin Laden is Dead and Detroit is Alive" and "Forward!"

What did we have? "Reform, Prosperity and Peace", "A Cause Greater than Itself", and "Country First" (McCain) and "Believe in America",

Now, if you are trying to compare the two tactics, you'll see immediately that Obama's are far simpler, direct and future looking. Perhaps more importantly, they speak to a group of people. McCain and Romney's slogans are abstract, directionless and time-independent. Can you see why Obama attracted so many people?

We owe it to ourselves to do better.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 5:50:16 PM PST by opticks
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The sad fact is that most politicians have no core beliefs, they are actors playing a role they think gives them the best chance to get elected.

Mitt did a piss-poor job of acting like a Conservative, when he tried to throw red meat at Conservatives (the “47%” quote), it came off as incredibly politically tone deaf.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 5:53:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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The Wimps running the House of Representatives can start by telling Harry Reid that singling out Groups to be punished Because they hate them or are Jealous of them is UnAmerican,and we as Americans wont tolerate that. But I dont expect the Pussy Boner To say that.
They Should be Demanding an explanation to the American People why Americans Died in Benghazi,Including why we are arming Jihadists, that have killed Americans, to depose Assad.
I wont hold my Breath


37 posted on 11/10/2012 5:35:45 AM PST by ballplayer
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