Skip to comments.EDITORIAL: Florida’s tainted vote
Posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:39 PM PST by jazusamo
Election shenanigans surface in Allen Wests congressional race
Florida just cant seem to count votes properly. After the embarrassing hanging chad debacle of the 2000 presidential election, similar games are now being played in the contest between Republican Rep. Allen West and Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy over the 18th Congressional District seat. Mr. Murphy claims 160,328 votes to Mr. Wests 157,872, but the GOP is questioning the integrity of the vote count, particularly in St. Lucie County.
On election night, Mr. West had maintained a district-wide lead of nearly 2,000 votes until the St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections inexplicably recounted thousands of early ballots, resulting in an awfully convenient 4,400-vote shift in favor of the challenger. Observers on the scene charged incompetence, intimidation and possible fraud on the part of local election officials. Mr. West has asked a judge to impound the ballots and order a recount to set things straight.
Lawyers for the West campaign have been overseeing the process at the Riviera Beach vote tabulation center, and they told The Washington Times that theyre concerned about what they have been seeing. Temporary workers are helping the local staff oversee the count of absentee ballots, those damaged by voting machines and ballots in which the three pages have become separated. They are making new ballots to replace the damaged ones, and are required to mark them with the same votes. Florida law allows observers to be present during this process, however, election officials are effectively denying poll watchers an opportunity to keep tabs on whats going on.
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Believe me I hear you, surely Holder will get right on this! /sarc
Judge just told him to quit whining, it was all legal.
We are doomed if not one person in the US has standing to challenge an election.
Remember B1 Bomber Bob.
The House refused to fight for him, and they like West even less, the fraud will stand.
Judge refused to impound the votes or the machines, so whatever they did will remain secret.
>> I personally think there is no such think as an open, free, honest election in this country anymore. It is GONE.
There may never have been such a time especially when only the Leftwing media dispensed info to the public.
Well what we need to do is
-Eliminate diebold voting machines
-Have ex military be GOP poll watchers
-Have poll watchers wired with cams
-Keep a tally of warm bodies that enter and make sure this lines up with votes cast
-Pass laws that assist in verifying accurate absentee voting (i.e. some of this states with ballot stuffing have Republican majorities in house chambers and/or gov)
What needs to happen
-With any illegal activity, somebody talks or overextends
-Get some solid proof for 2012
I really think the 2010 Reid/Angle was a test run where union thugs adjusted true results. Secrets need to come out.
Only an election system with humans, looking each other in the eye and with representatives of each party, residents of the districts they monitor, doing the counting. These precinct workers establish the now entirely absent audit trail we used to have. They open the ballot box in each others presence after the polls close, count the ballots in each other’s presence, with the unquestioned freedom to challenge any ballot being counted. After each ballot is counted it is deposited into a secure box which is sent to secure storage, never to be opened unless a court challange requires a recount.
That is how voting in the US used be, when our voting system had the integrity to allow us to trust that elections actually represented the will of the people.
Today there is absolutely no way to claim we know how people voted. Pundits are kept busy explaining the meaning of data which have no provable connection with those people whose opinions it purports to represent.
Is it clear why our system is a fraud? In a room are forty people who are each willing to contribute #10,000 to an education pool for an endowed environmental chair. There are four colleges competing. The donors write their preferred beneficiary on secret ballots which they hand to an official of one of the schools, whose task is to count and report the result. He works alone in his office. The ballots contain no identifying information. For what reason, other than presumed integrity, would his report be trusted?
Assume that instead of an endowed chair, the decision of the counting authority would determine whether he would be employed and his family have guaranteed health care and generous pension, about twice the salary and pension of those workers in the private sector, what might one assume about his/or integrity? If our system was not modified to permit cheating, it may as well have been. The result is the same. There are so many disconnections with the source of the data, a voter's choice, that the data can have no trustworthy meaning. This writer has spent years looking for faults in data path integrity in scientific instruments. Our voting system fails right at the front end, and, depending upon the state and precinct, at network connections, in every unmonitored room, and, of course, even in the pre-vote registration process. We do not live in a representative republic. We still have local police who maintain some respect for our laws, but our federal government has not been duly elected. To pretend that such is the case is becoming a sure path to tyranny, as the left intentionally destroys our economic system.
I was wondering that myself, please make it so.
These people don't even care how it looks anymore, blatant fraud and they laugh? 147% and they get by with this?
Romney PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE. Reconsider you concession, don't be another NIXON and give up.
Colorado, Pennsylvania et al
yep, the whole election was a sham
we live in a 3rd world country
I don't think West will give this up, at least I hope he doesn't. He has faced the enemy in Afghanistan, he certainly has enough grit to take these thugs on.
10 counties in Colorado had more than 100% turnout I hear
Since the 2000 election I've believed it was a huge mistake to abandon the punch card voting system. It was simple, inexpensive and provided a permanent record for a recount if necessary. Put a Dem and Repub in a precinct to keep an eye open for what goes on.
The fiasco put forth by the 2000 recount was totally uncalled for, the people who put on that pathetic show should never be allowed anywheres near a voting precinct again except to vote.
We have now reached the point where it's near impossible to assure an honest election.
this election was stolen big time.
Is there a FReeper who can deny this now?
And also ...
8) Remove all early voting, countrywide.
9) Use the purple finger voter marking technique.
I think a lot of the votes were cast by nobody, USB card maybe all in the digital ether.
Who counts the vote is what matters
Simply means..that if We the People are to be disenfranchised .....
Direct disenfranchisement refers to actions that explicitly prevent people from voting or having their votes counted, as opposed to indirect techniques, which attempt to prevent peoples votes from having an impact on political outcomes (e.g., gerrymandering, ballot box stuffing, stripping elected officials of their powers).
And by not challenging it, fighting it..and getting in their faces about it...we grant permission for it to continue....and even worse...increase the probability of needing to resort to the cartridge box for resolution.
We have no further obligation to pay taxes. And we are the only ones paying them!!