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Campaign Sources: The Romney Campaign was a Consultant Con Job
Red State ^ | November 9, 2012 | Ben Howe

Posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:37 PM PST by upbeat5

If you spend your time watching politics and haven’t been hiding in a deep depression since Tuesday, you’ve probably been hearing a lot about “ORCA.” According to the Washington Post, ORCA “was designed as a first-of-its-kind tool to employ smartphones to mobilize voters, allowing them to microtarget which of their supporters had gone to the polls.”

There is now widespread condemnation of the program as being sloppy and poorly deployed.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: con; consultant; job; orca; romney; romneycampaign
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And the beat goes on and on and on. Makes me sick!
1 posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:46 PM PST by upbeat5
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To: upbeat5

Fact is GOP voters should not have to be contacted to vote PERIOD


2 posted on 11/09/2012 6:24:02 PM PST by uncbob
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To: uncbob

Who in this country didn’t know that Nov. 6th was election day? Many states had early voting as well. This is just a stupid excuse.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 6:26:07 PM PST by Catsrus (WANT)
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To: upbeat5
Pat Caddell -- the Democratic pollster who was a regular on Fox News during this campaign and really thought Romney would win this thing -- was on the radio today, and he was absolutely livid about some of the back-room nonsense that was apparently going on in the GOP campaign.

He said pretty openly that this campaign was little more than an opportunity for GOP "strategists" and "consultants" (he mentioned Karl Rove in particular) to make a lot of money from the hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to the Romney campaign and the RNC during this election cycle.

4 posted on 11/09/2012 6:26:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: upbeat5

“..first-of-its-kind tool..”

At least the beta test was done on an application that wasn’t critical.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 6:28:00 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: upbeat5

Priebus needs to go, this whole debacle is on him.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 6:29:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: upbeat5

“Consult” = “Con” + “Insult”
-Scott Adams


7 posted on 11/09/2012 6:30:57 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Alberta's Child

This I believe. Moderates running the Romney campaign made no real effort to attract Conservatives. ABO was not enough.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 6:31:02 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Alberta's Child
Another source that closely studied the Obama campaigns GOTV efforts as compared to ORCA said bluntly that “the Obama training manuals made ORCA look like drunken monkey slapped together a powerpoint”

Harsh statement. Sad to see them turn on one another.

9 posted on 11/09/2012 6:33:00 PM PST by Orange1998 (Please DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: uncbob

Yeah I would agree, at the end of the day, this still says a lot about the general public. Obama’s job performance should have been enough to elect a random draw from a phone book. I sure didn’t need anyone to tell me to vote.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 6:33:16 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Alberta's Child

I heard him, too. He was livid.


11 posted on 11/09/2012 6:33:36 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RginTN
I can also see why Rove was acting like a crazy man late on Election Night, ranting about the media's call for Obama in Ohio when he insisted Romney could still win. He was watching his career evaporate before his eyes. The Republican Party may be rank amateurs in a lot of respects, but once you are associated with a losing campaign in an election that they really should have won, you're usually persona non grata after that.
12 posted on 11/09/2012 6:39:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: upbeat5

This explains th lack of ads. We all wondered where all the Romney campaign funds were going.


13 posted on 11/09/2012 6:39:28 PM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Alberta's Child

Everyone associated with the GOP for the past 4 years, anyone associated with the Bushes needs to be gone.


14 posted on 11/09/2012 6:40:35 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Alberta's Child

Why don’t these Morons use a Guy like Dick Morris?
He was a clinton campaign advisor...He understands the left’s mind set....and I am impressed with His political
number crunching....He is at least as good as Rove.

and the best part is He Hates the left Now....
someone needs to put him on a “retainer” for 2016....


15 posted on 11/09/2012 6:43:01 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: Orange1998
Harsh statement

Yeah. Well, we had a harsh result.

The only question that matters here is, is this accurate, and if so, how to fix it for next time.

16 posted on 11/09/2012 6:44:22 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: upbeat5

Pure projection. There is no sloppy or poorly deployed about it.

And I don’t care about this “we can’t say the election was stolen because that is what democrats do fricken BS,

This election was stolen fraudulent.

Romney won Bambi lost.

Do we not know the score by now? Do we allow..oh never mind!


17 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:37 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: upbeat5

Pure projection. There is no sloppy or poorly deployed about it.

And I don’t care about this “we can’t say the election was stolen because that is what democrats do fricken BS,

This election was stolen fraudulent.

Romney won Bambi lost.

Do we not know the score by now? Do we allow..oh never mind!


18 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:37 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: upbeat5

Pure projection. There is no sloppy or poorly deployed about it.

And I don’t care about this “we can’t say the election was stolen because that is what democrats do fricken BS,

This election was stolen fraudulent.

Romney won Bambi lost.

Do we not know the score by now? Do we allow..oh never mind!


19 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:37 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: upbeat5

Pure projection. There is no sloppy or poorly deployed about it.

And I don’t care about this “we can’t say the election was stolen because that is what democrats do fricken BS,

This election was stolen fraudulent.

Romney won Bambi lost.

Do we not know the score by now? Do we allow..oh never mind!


20 posted on 11/09/2012 6:45:40 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: upbeat5
No wonder Romney was blindsided. It sounds as though these consultants were intent on riding the gravy train of donations coming in by projecting the rosiest of scenarios. They had no real loyalty or attachment to Romney. This is horrible. Think of all the people who donated whatever they could...and it was squandered in this way?

What's worse, Romney's whole persona was predicated on managerial competence and yet these self-promoting hucksters are given positions of power and authority within the campaign? And worst of all, they were all demonstrably incompetent. I am sick at heart reading these accounts. What a disaster.

21 posted on 11/09/2012 6:46:36 PM PST by hcmama
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To: upbeat5
Why are the complaining about the app when they SHOULD be screaming about the fraud?
22 posted on 11/09/2012 6:50:13 PM PST by MamaTexan (In Propria Persona)
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To: LtKerst

A week before the election, Dick Morris was predicting a Romney landslide. I’m not saying that disqualifies him from ever working in a GOP campaign, but it does make me wonder just how much “talent” a lot of these people really have.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 6:50:16 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

We’ve all been hearing about ORCA for two days now. At least this article names names, making it worthy of consideration I think.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 6:51:36 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: uncbob
I'm with you, GOP voters shouldn't have to be contacted on election day to vote! (I also said this in another thread)

With that being said, I wasn't able to vote until nearly 8:00. I had 6 messages on my iPhone telling me to get out there and vote Romney/Ryan. The first one was a general reminder “today is election day, please vote for Romney/Ryan.” The next few were “get out and vote!” The last few were “you still have time to vote.” So some how I was getting contacted.

25 posted on 11/09/2012 6:55:32 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Alberta's Child
He said pretty openly that this campaign was little more than an opportunity for GOP "strategists" and "consultants"

I wonder how many of those "strategists" and "consultants" are actually Democrats?

26 posted on 11/09/2012 6:58:37 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed!


27 posted on 11/09/2012 7:00:12 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: upbeat5

That’s it!

I am going back to burying dead bodies under my house.


28 posted on 11/09/2012 7:03:20 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Alberta's Child

Dick Morris is wrong so often on his predictions, you can almost take the opposite of whatever he’s predicting to be what will really happen.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 7:05:44 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Alberta's Child

Cadell is a good man.

He’s right about these political animals that dwell on both sides of the aisle yet have no honest loyalty to anyone. You either hire them or be destroyed by them. In many cases they destroy the candidate they’re working for as soon as a better deal comes along.

Actually, that’s one of the things that makes Obama a bit different. His political handlers aren’t the old democrat standards, his have real loyalty, if not to him, to the marxist ideal. It makes them a more dangerous breed.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 7:20:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LtKerst

Do a google search of Dick Morris and Raila Odinga (Obama’s cousin.) Sorry to disagree but this toesucker never gets trust again as far as I am concerned. He ran Odinga’s campaign in Africa, according to news reports and did it with Clinton’s playbook. Leopards don’t change their spots. I won’t lap up polling data from this troll again. Research it for yourself.


31 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:21 PM PST by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: upbeat5

Ain’t that the truth. Can we PLEASE not get fooled by the jacka$$ pundits and conspiracy theorists again? If we do, we will have this conversation EVERY 2 years until we are extinct.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 7:23:21 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Alberta's Child

I hope Rove simply goes away. I am sick of him and the Bushies. Sick of the entire mess. I am ready for a new party. The Conservative Patriot’s Party.


33 posted on 11/09/2012 7:26:43 PM PST by RetiredArmy (November 6, 2012: The day the United States Republic DIED.)
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To: hcmama
It sounds as though these consultants were intent on riding the gravy train of donations coming in by projecting the rosiest of scenarios.

Just a few weeks ago I said Romney needs to lose the yes men and start listening to the conservatives who don't like him much. Its always better to hear honest criticism than happy best case scenarios.

This is like telling the skipper of the Titanic "Tis but an ice cube".
34 posted on 11/09/2012 7:28:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dfwgator

Preibus must go ~


35 posted on 11/09/2012 7:34:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: KansasGirl
Now Obama was giving away cellphones to his supporters, particularly in Ohio, so Romney's staff decided to give away cellphones to their friends?

Now that's symmetry!

36 posted on 11/09/2012 7:36:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Alberta's Child

He pounded the “Demographic is destiny” theme to smithereens, too. Whatever Republican buys into that ought to be driven out to pasture in a hurry. This obviously was the community organizer election. Voting precincts 10,000 to 0 obviously takes the skill of a real palm greaser like Obama. And everybody said his “real world experience” amounted to nothing. Meanwhile, I was looking forward to authentic competence from Romney-Ryan and they turn out to be rank amateurs before they ever get to the gates of the White House.


37 posted on 11/09/2012 7:39:44 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Moonman62

I didn’t receive one Democrat phone call, e-mail or campaign mailing. How did they know to not waste any time or money on me? The Republicans sent me lots of e-mails and brochures. I received lots of Republican phone calls. The Democrats have a pretty good intelligence gathering service. Post office workers?


38 posted on 11/09/2012 7:43:50 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Alberta's Child

Rove first and foremost needs to be banished. He is a con man and a fraud!


39 posted on 11/09/2012 7:49:33 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: RetiredArmy

or AMERICANS AIN’T DEAD YET party


40 posted on 11/09/2012 7:52:28 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Alberta's Child

I heard him in the car. He was on fire. Tearing everyone apart. Great radio. I know he used to be for Carter, but some 2016 hopeful should look into hiring him or at least “consulting” with him..


41 posted on 11/09/2012 8:05:22 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: blueunicorn6

>> The Democrats have a pretty good intelligence gathering service.

Republicans are too busy paying taxes.


42 posted on 11/09/2012 8:10:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Alberta's Child

a lot of that is just wanting to keep morale up on our side. If someone like Morris or Rove comes out and says Romney’s going to lose, that causes a lot of folks to stay home or get demoralized.

The dems do the same thing. Look at 2010 when people like Pelosi and Bill Clinton and flacks like Carville and Begala were talking about the dems would hold the House. they knew what was going to happen, but were playing their part.


43 posted on 11/09/2012 8:10:26 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: blueunicorn6
The Democrats have a pretty good intelligence gathering service. Post office workers?

“When you control the mail you control...information.”
-Newman

44 posted on 11/09/2012 8:10:36 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: muawiyah

Anyone miss Michael Steele yet?

Guy leads the party to its best result in 75 years and is summarily fired


45 posted on 11/09/2012 8:12:38 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Alberta's Child
A week before the election, Dick Morris was predicting a Romney landslide. I’m not saying that disqualifies him from ever working in a GOP campaign, but it does make me wonder just how much “talent” a lot of these people really have.

Given that voters are not soldiers in a military campaign and can't be dragooned into voting, it's essential that they be made to think that their candidate has a chance of winning. If they think disaster is inevitable, they won't take an hour or hours from their daily lives to drive to the polling station, get in line and vote. Negativity can turn a defeat into super-majorities for the other side. Also, who's going to contribute funds to a campaign he thinks is likely to lose - money he could hang on to for things like Christmas presents and steak dinners? Negativity becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.

46 posted on 11/09/2012 8:19:44 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Moonman62

Him or Cliff Clavin.


47 posted on 11/09/2012 8:23:54 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: upbeat5

Sour grapes.....


48 posted on 11/09/2012 8:25:29 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Catsrus
Who in this country didn’t know that Nov. 6th was election day? Many states had early voting as well. This is just a stupid excuse.

What we're up against...

The Dem GOTV is well organized, aggressive and unfettered by the rule book. They know their voters' names, addresses and whether they have voted or not. With early voting, volunteers will call, drive to people's houses and drag them to the polling booth. And if no ID is required, and they have a registered voter who hasn't voted, they'll use a warm body. Our competitor is Chicago Boss Daley quality voter corruption...gone national.

49 posted on 11/09/2012 8:29:14 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (<-------currently working through post-election anger issues.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Karl Rove- the architect of Defeat.
After not supporting Conservative candidates who defeated moderates in the primaries, Karl Rove deserves having his career done in.


50 posted on 11/09/2012 8:30:38 PM PST by RginTN
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