Posted on 11/10/2012 4:14:47 AM PST by Kaslin
Yes but don’t see the dems walking that path again.
Invite the GOP to the party and let them hold the bag is more likely. All the reason to sit out their policy discussions.
We need to become what they accuse us of and force their hand, even if it requires physical force. Unless that happens, we will continue until even the most stalwart among us succumbs - heck, you might make an argument that we have succumbed because ineffectual words seems to be all we have to offer anymore. Their PC propaganda work over the last 50 years or so has paid off - they have emasculated us.
“And despite the huge poll numbers against obamacare that were consistent over multiple months, the jerk still got re-elected.’
And that was one of the problems with having Romney as a candidate, you could not exploit Obamacare as it would be turned back on Romney. The issue was quietly neutralized.
“Until the morality of the Nation is tirned 180 degrees from the direction it is now headed, there is not a damn thing that can be done.”
Until you can somehow change the way these people conceive their voting info, things won’t change. I’m talking about the failure of the MSM. Its the biggest threat to democracy we have.
We do not have a free fair press.
Well, what’s even more encouraging IMO is that 75% of the country apparently doesn’t support unrestricted abortion-on-demand. And I think the GOP could capitalize on that element pretty well.
Where the GOP gets into hot water is when a Progressive asks a candidate, “so you would not support abortion even in the case of rape or incest…?” If the candidate walks into that trap and says no, that’s the point they’ve rendered themselves a target for having a stance out of sync with 80% of the population.
Precisely right. About a year ago, I started reading lots of books about socialism and communism. I have no doubt whatsoever we are seeing the fruits of their labors. I’m afraid it may take a 70 or 80 year cycle, just like in the old USSR, before the thorough degradation and corruption of this evil system becomes unbearable and it is thrown on the ash heap of history. Unfortunately, the Russians, Poles, Eastern Europeans, et al could always look to the “shining city on the hill” for a model to aspire to. To whom will the US aspire when it is a thoroughly totalitarian state in 40 years?
I remember in high school I thought that the world had no way to throw back the forces of tyranny and communism that were spreading over the world. Reagan proved me wrong and I became very optimistic about freedom when he was elected and the ensuing 20 years. But now I feel like I’m thrown right back to where I was in high school — dark, unstoppable forces are at work and overpowering us without any way out.
Exposing the fact that Dems support unrestricted abortion could be useful. Also measures like banning public funding for abortion would be palatable IMO.
But beyond that GOP needs to stay away from looking like it’s trying to impose moral dictates upon society that a majority of individuals don’t want.
We’ll need the support of folks like you to support the elimination of public funding for abortion and the elimination of Obamacare.
Because right now, your strategy of stabbing the prolife conservatives is really not working out well for you. Look, we’re the ones who are opposed to Obamacare - you gain nothing by attacking us.
You need to drop the pro-abort mindset that standing up for unborn children is a bad thing.
I wonder why Romney went soft in the general election? He had no problem bashing conservatives during the primary season. Two opposite answer would be: (1) He wanted to win, (2) He didn’t want to win.
A form of (1), He wanted to win but did a lousy job of it, is the answer most given. The sad thing is that Ted Kennedy defeated him in Massachusetts years ago painting him as an uncaring corporate raider. You’d think he had already seen that movie.
So, (2), in some form or fashion, becomes a viable option.
Electoral votes per CD district doesn't offend me, considering Manhattan, Miami, Cook County and LA country give the Dems a 220 EV head start. Insane.
I also agree that if R's vote "present" for 6 months, Dems will be destroyed in 2014. OK, let's try their way for a short spell. They'll blame us for failure, anyway, even if we oppose Dems
Leadership change for sure. Someone must be able to explain that top earners are already paying all the taxes. We must communicate growth = more taxpayers = more revenues as in 2004 thru 2006.
I don't see how to convince anyone to reduce government. A crash may be the only way.
Primary system sucks. Trashing winner-take-all should help.
Debates administered by MSM is suicide.
I’m not pro-abortion by any means, I’m only pointing out that hardline stances of “abortion should not be allowed even in extreme cases”, are a political liability that turnoff the majority (80%) of Americans. It will, and has, cost elections.
So why do you support abortion in the case of rape and incest?
This article assumes there was not massive voter fraud. 1-nominate a conservative 2- nominate a conservative he can make an assclowns out of the media. 3-nominate a conservative who is a true reformer.
Good Luck on that.
Otherwise, other than gutting Big Gov..I personally think the only way to get the American slackers back on track is to require EVERYONE who is not working to be part of a workfare program. At the very least you must sit at a workfare facility for 8 hrs a day in order to get your WEEKLY check that you must pick up at workfare facility.
That doesn’t include seniors on SS/Medicare.
Because the alternatives were even worse. In January 2012 we had no great choices. There's no reason to believe that the only two viable conservative candidates that survived Iowa and New Hampshire, Gingrich and Santorum, would have done any better than Romney and many reasons to believe they would have done worse.
Romney was and is better looking than Gingrich. This is the kind of thing that drives serious political activists all across the political landscape crazy, and it matters far more than ideas. Gingrich is too troll-like to be president, Christie is too fat, Ron Paul is too goofy and Dennis Kucinich is too short. That's true even before you start looking at their ideas.
Santorum was OK as far as appearance, but his mannerisms were awkward and dorky. Admittedly Romney suffered from this dorky problem as well, but he had other advantages over Santorum.
When two candidates who are well matched in superficial factors go head to head issues become important, and on the issues Santorum's focus and strong stands on social issues were wrong for this campaign. On defense Santorum was too much of a hawk and on spending he was too liberal. Santorum's best issue was his firm opposition to Obamacare, but that wasn't enough.
As for Gingrich, he had more problems than his appearance. While he was probably the most intelligent candidate running, and the best debater, his personal life was a train wreck. The religious conservative voters he absolutely needed to win were unimpressed by his series of marriages ending in adultery. In his personal life Romney the Massachusetts liberal was far more conservative than Gingrich the southern conservative.
But the collapse of Cain and the failure of Gingrich point to something worse than their personal flaws. With personal morality declining across the board we may be approaching the point where there are almost no viable candidates who haven't cheated on their wives, two timed on their girlfriends, paid for abortions, or dragged their wives to swinger's clubs (we can thank Ryan's hijinks in that department for Senator Obama's rise).
Of course it would be possible to adopt a more European attitude towards these things, which would give us more candidates to choose from.
This presents any conservative voter with an uncomfortable choice. Do you stand against the moral decline by rejecting any candidate who is less than pure or do you support the person who can win even if they're a scoundrel?
But back to Romney's candidacy. As badly as Romney did it could have been worse. We'd be in a weaker position today if Santorum had been nominated and lost in a landslide. Based on his weakness in the primaries that would have been the outcome.
Gingrich might have done better than Santorum, but could he have done better than the well funded, moderate, taller, better looking Mitt Romney?
Doubtful.
Politics. I support candidates who make an exception for rape and incest for the same reason I support candidates who are in favor of Social Security. To call for what I'd like, the immediate elimination of all entitlements, is political suicide. Just like calling for a complete ban on abortion would be. So I compromise.
Ok, another question.
Since the majority of the population supports socialism - would you vote for the socialist candidate as a nominee in the hopes of winning the election?
1. No more than 3 candidates, a committee will decide who those 3 are.
2. No more debates...it’s stupid to have Republicans debating each other providing fodder for the other side, win on your own merits, and not tearing down your opponents, everyone has to be united when all is said and done.
3. First primary is Texas, we guarantee 38 Electoral Votes, so we should have the biggest say in who the nominee is.....the last place finisher drops out, so it’s a two-man race from there on.
“Because the alternatives were even worse. In January 2012 we had no great choices. There’s no reason to believe that the only two viable conservative candidates that survived Iowa and New Hampshire, Gingrich and Santorum, would have done any better than Romney and many reasons to believe they would have done worse.”
Again, if someone had come to you in February and told you that Romney would get fewer votes than John McCain - would you have believed him?
The analysis you are basing this assumption on - was 100 percent false. We were told that Romney was electable. All the FReepers hollering that Romney would be a disaster - they were right.
So, I have to take that as evidence that what they saw in Romney way back then - that they were right and the folks telling us that Romney was electable were wrong.
As for Newt - Santorum kicked his ass in the primaries. ‘Nuff said.
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