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Sandy: Tempers heated among New Yorkers still in the cold
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Posted on 11/10/2012 7:26:54 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: CaptainK
Who gives a sh!t, besides you?????

For the last time, no one who resides on the beaches or any other LI town would describe themselves as living in Hempstead ... the town of, or otherwise ... No One! And they would consider it an insult if I insisted they did.

NO ONE, except maybe you, says, "I live in Valley Stream, in the town of Hempstead". Instead, they say, "I live in Valley Stream, in Nassau County".

When I send out Christmas cards they will be addressed to East Meadow, Atlantic Beach, Rockville Centre, Wantagh, and Inwood. I guess the cards sent to you will be addressed to 'the town of Hempstead'. So be it.

Geeze, I wish there was an 'ignore' button.

141 posted on 11/10/2012 4:27:46 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: NoGrayZone
You're back !   :-)
142 posted on 11/10/2012 4:31:46 PM PST by tomkat
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To: P.O.E.

Diesels are more expensive and are louder but they last longer - just like diesel vehicles.

500 gal tank? You’re golden.
(have any vehicles that run on diesel? that’s a plus too in hindsight of what happened during Sandy at the gas stations)

People forget home heating oil is diesel.... If you heat with oil you have a fuel station at your house for emergencies of the generator and vehicle kind....
(just keep it full)


143 posted on 11/10/2012 4:39:47 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I get it. It’s too hard for you understood the different levels of local government. Would it have been easier for you to understand what I meant if I had listed every town in THE TOWN OF HEMPSTEAD that got a tidal surge

Oceanside/Baldwin/Freeport/Baldwin/Merrick/Bellmore/Wantaugh/Atlantic Beach/Lido Beach/Point Lookout/ Long Beach.

Instead I shorthanded it saying said THE TOWN of HEMPSTEAD because the person I was addressing knows Long Island.

Do you address your cards to Nassau County? Yet every town you named is in Nassau County. And in the Town of Hempstead


144 posted on 11/10/2012 4:40:48 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: libertarian27

Yeah, they look about $1.5K and up, whereas I could get a cheapo gas one for $300 or so. Guess I’ve got some homework to do researching them (and some saving up).

Definitely looks like a worthwhile investment for SHTF scenarios.

Although the noise tends to attract thieves - my folks live by the Jersey shore & had to turn off & hide their generator at night.


145 posted on 11/10/2012 5:30:50 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: elkfersupper

Of course it isn’t. But we’re spending a ton of money and have nothing to show for it (again, not unusual for the feds)


146 posted on 11/10/2012 6:22:38 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Perdogg
Perhaps if FEMA, DHS, the 16 ounce cola limiting Mayor of NYC, the state & local officials in NY and NJ had previously focused their efforts solely on running city and state government infrastructure instead of trying to micromanage private citizens lives? Perhaps if they had done their actual jobs the past few decades especially though in the last four years more help would have been trained and far more prepared to handle the entire situation.

FEMA was getting real bad but under DHS it is a sick joke. Christie and even a judge with half a brain should have ordered the Unions to stand down on closed shop contracts & man up with offered help or simply be replaced. All state and federal labor contracts should have been suspended for duration. By that I mean allowing outside help to come in from other states. That used to be called Mutual Aid one of the backbone agreements in emergency management.

If FEMA can't work through a winter storm it is as useless as Tits on a Boar Hog then. People even in the coldest of weather can be housed in warmth in Tent Cities as a temporary shelter.

Most important lesson is places like coastal NYC need to remove critical infrastructure such as utilities form below water level. Underground is not the same thing as under water. Huge difference. That includes transportation. Have generator back up on all critical systems such as public water treatment and pumping stations. Have key neighborhood shelters with same. Those type shelters should have fuel oil fired boilers for heat. The nursing home I worked in we could go a couple weeks independent off grid operation. Not everything would work but it would keep you alive, warm, and in lights.

Yes individuals should always be prepared as much as possible to live for days on what they have. You are the only person you can count on to respond in an emergency. The best thing to do when a hurricane is coming is leave a couple days in advance. 50 miles inland usually does the trick. Still though the government agencies charged with the specific duty and paid to handle emergencies and emergency management should be more so ready with lots of authority given to local agencies to act. Such things as enviromental laws etc should automatically be suspended for emergency duration. None of those agencies not a one should be unionized.

147 posted on 11/10/2012 6:37:24 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: CaptainK
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who was the hardest hit of all?

You were correct! The people of the Town of Hempstead were the hardest hit of all! So much harder than the people of the Rockaways, as this video clearly shows.

Mea culpa.

148 posted on 11/10/2012 9:17:37 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Dear dingbat

The article was talking about the people of Long Island. I was only asking for a little pity for them.
The people on Long Beach were hit HARD.

I wrote one sentence. I said nothing disparaging or made a comparison about the Rockaways. But for some reason you picked a fight out of the thin air to change the subject.

Queens voted OVERWHELMING for Obama , so following your tortured pretzel logic YOU have no pity for them.


149 posted on 11/11/2012 9:39:29 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
OMG!!! You'd better get in touch with "60 MINUTES"!!!

ASAP!!!

Earlier in this thread you claimed that the Towns of Hempstead suffered the WORSE damage of all.

You have to tell '60 Minutes' right away ...

They had the gall, the audacity ... to think Rockaway was the hardest hit and filmed a segment about the destruction caused by Hurricane Sandy there ... and it will be aired tonight!!!! You must stop them!!!!! You must correct them!!! They should have filmed in Long Beach!!!!

And, since you know it all, maybe you should throw them a civics lesson while you're at it ...

BTW, although the Rockaways are within New York City limits, thus have much lower property taxes, geographically it is part of Long Island ... which voted OVERWHELMING for Obama.

Unfortunately, most in the Republician enclave of Rockaway were unable to vote due to the aftermath from the storm. Both Mike Long, the Chairman of the Conservative Party of New York State and Bob Turner, the Republican who replaced Anthony Weiner, lost their homes in the fires.

150 posted on 11/11/2012 11:02:10 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Everything I said was factually true.

Not so much in your case.


151 posted on 11/11/2012 11:13:12 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
Have some pity for the people in the Town of Hempstead, who are the hardest hit. We are one of the last bastions of Republicans on Long Island. You would almost think it was a conspiracy.

9 posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:32:06 AM by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)

BS


152 posted on 11/11/2012 11:49:06 AM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Exactly true when red in the context of the article.

What was wrong/incorrect/poor reading comprehension on your part, is that I in any way shape or form reference the village of Hempstead as being hard hit. The village being in the middle of the island and not near water, as it were.

I’d draw you a map but you’ve already proved that you can’t read one.


153 posted on 11/11/2012 1:48:34 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
Exactly true when red in the context of the article.


You wrote:
"Have some pity for the people in the Town of Hempstead, who are the hardest hit. We are one of the last bastions of Republicans on Long Island. You would almost think it was a conspiracy."


Neither the village, nor the town, nor any hamlet within the township, suffered the hardest hit from Sandy, which is what you claimed.

It isn't true in red, purple, or any other color . . .

bawahahahahaha

Although I doubt you're interested, here is a wonderful story about the people of the East End who are helping:

South Fork Residents in Aid Effort in Rockaways

154 posted on 11/11/2012 7:36:46 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: tomkat

At work....shhhhh. Lol.


155 posted on 11/12/2012 3:48:02 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

I know can you believe it?


156 posted on 11/12/2012 3:50:02 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: PMAS

We decided to take out the entire neighborhood w/ 4 of our trees.

We knocked off our block first @ 3:30 pm that day. I can’t believe how much flooding I saw...Lindenhurst under water?

I’m just now starting to get a good look at what happened and the damage done.

Do your family members still have their house standing?


157 posted on 11/12/2012 3:53:22 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: machogirl

Exactly. Only the union idiots here care. Glad to know they’re not being turned away anymore.


158 posted on 11/12/2012 3:55:12 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: NoGrayZone

My family members house is ok, just flooding in the cellar, they just lost their boiler - so no power, heat or hot water -power is supposedly going to be turn on today or tomorrow.

Here is a link to pictures of Long Beach:

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/30/heartbreaking-pics-long-beach-ny-torn-apart-by-hurricane-sandy/


159 posted on 11/12/2012 4:01:49 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: NoGrayZone

(ok, won’t tell, promise ;-)


160 posted on 11/12/2012 4:49:43 AM PST by tomkat (a million tiny cuts .. add yours daily .. be creative)
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