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1 posted on 11/10/2012 8:09:21 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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Hmmmm. T.A. = A.T. ???


2 posted on 11/10/2012 8:17:50 AM PST by ExxonPatrolUs (The Ameritopian Motto: Gov The Sheeple, Buy The Sheeple, Bore The Sheeple)
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If there are no truths, then all journalists are just propagandists.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:31 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: abb; wagglebee; little jeremiah; AmericanInTokyo; Lazlo in PA; Diamond; Dr. Brian Kopp; ...
This article has major problems, and while it is in a publication covering the Middle East, I'm afraid that it reflects a growing viewpoint among Western reporters who ought to know better. As conservatives, we're used to complaining about the “liberal media” but sometimes a look into the underlying philosophy of what constitutes truth is more important than specific issues.

The problems inherent in this article are made worse because the author's denial of the existence of truth is in the context of a response to Terry Anderson, who spent half a decade as a captive of terrorists because he was trying to tell the truth about events in the war he was covering as a war correspondent.

Let's be clear here. The author isn't just saying reporters need to avoid taking sides in a controversy by presenting both sides’ version of the truth and letting our readers make up their own minds once they have the facts. (That would be entirely appropriate.) He's not just saying truth is often hard to determine — after all, it's often painfully evident that both sides may really believe they're right and neither is deliberately trying to cover up the truth.

What the author is saying is much more serious. After quoting a number of modern philosophers and other commentators who question whether truth exists, he comes to the conclusion that “Good journalism starts with the truth – about the many guidelines the journalist is restricted by. Good journalism starts with being humble – about the fact that there is no such thing as truth. Or as Richard Feynman, the physicist, put it: ‘we never are definitely right, we can only be sure we are wrong.’ Let's start with this. It would be more than enough. Right, Terry?”

This approach to journalism, while claiming to be “humble,” is in fact coming perilously close to saying all news is propaganda because, as the author points out, editors at the Atlanta headquarters of CNN and the Qatar headquarters of al-Jazeera may not want some stories reported.

We all know bad editors and bad publishers exist, and sometimes good editors and good publishers make bad decisions.

To go beyond admitting that obviously true fact and argue that there is no such thing as truth risks turning reporters into propagandists.

I fully grant that truth is sometimes really hard to find. I fully grant we sometimes make serious mistakes in trying to find it. Even beyond that, I fully grant that as reporters, in many (probably most) cases it is our job to present both sides’ versions of the truth, not to take sides on which of those versions is true. Obvious exceptions include things like Nazi death camps, the Soviet gulags, the devastation caused by Mao's Red Guards, or modern horrors like North Korean prisons, where governments are deliberately committing horrible atrocities and often trying to hide their violations of human rights from public view. Any right-thinking moron with half a brain should be able to see that mass murder and torture of people who disagree with their government is wrong — but let's not forget that Stalin was effective in convincing too many Western journalists that he was greatly improving his country during some of the worst years of his terror campaigns, and Hitler and Mao did much the same thing with their own people.

To deny that truth exists at all is to deny the entire purpose of journalism. If we're not in the business of trying to tell the truth, we don't deserve the protections of the First Amendment because we're no better than the corporate or government PR people who we're supposed to be holding accountable for their actions.

4 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:01 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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Journalists shouldn’t be worried about ‘Truth’. They should be worred about ‘Facts’. Give us the facts & we’ll figure out the truth.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 8:22:01 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Journalism isn’t about Truth-—Religion is. Journalism is about FACTS! And they get that wrong or spin it most of the time. There can be true facts.

Pathetic lazy propaganda machines—most so called journalists who refuse to do leg work—why I dumped all newspapers and use people on the internet who have proven to care about the “truth” and admit bias and apologize when they do misquote or make mistakes—as all people will.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 8:34:35 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Is he saying that the only truth is that there is no truth? Seems to be self-contradicting.
9 posted on 11/10/2012 9:08:44 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: darrellmaurina
Just this morning, I heard an interview on NPR, of an NPR news director. This news director admitted, on the air, on NPR, that the vast majority of people in "jounalism" are liberals, and that slants how they report the news. He also said that the country would be better served if there were other points of view in the newsroom, but that conservatives tend not to go into journalism.

Again, this was a liberal NPR news director admitting this, on NPR. It was not some wild-eyed, far-right-wing conspiracy theorist.

Evan Thomas, an editor at Newsweek (soon to be defunct) suggested that liberal bias in the press was worth 5 - 8 percent of the votes in favor of the Democrats.

This is a problem that needs to be addressed.

11 posted on 11/10/2012 9:13:46 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To the deceived truth is fiction and fantasy becomes reality... To the deceived, hell will not be denied and truth will become all too real, and the fear of the numinous will burn in their conscience forever.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 9:51:32 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: darrellmaurina

Democracy is Mob Rule by mobsters...

No democracy has ever been democratic..
Democracy was, is and will continue to be a LIE..
It is a scam by socialists..

Socialists make problems by givernment action then send the givernment to fix the problems they created..

Because democracy is a lie..


Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism.
The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx


17 posted on 11/10/2012 11:05:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: darrellmaurina

Is it true....that there is no such thing as truth?


18 posted on 11/10/2012 11:09:26 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: darrellmaurina

Democracy simply means that if I can get enough people to side with me I can screw over everyone else with impunity, until they get enough people to side with them and screw me over.


27 posted on 11/10/2012 11:41:42 PM PST by aruanan
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