Skip to comments.Who Authorized FBI Surveillance of Gen. Petraeus?
Posted on 11/10/2012 10:51:39 AM PST by Perdogg
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Mission TWO: Write a book
I see no evidence that she was motivated to write the book for any but the most honorable of reasons. The problem began when she and her subject found each other irresistible.
But the conspiracy didn't start until Chicago got on the case after the NSA looked at a flagged email containing the phrase "under the desk", realized what was going on and called in the FBI to investigate further. Due to the high rank of the culprit, they kicked it up to the White House, where Val and Zero and the rest of the gang realized they had an irresistible club over Petraeus, which they could use at their leisure.
This had all been going for months, it appears. It also appears her husband found out early on and probably forced her to end the affair, which only resulted in more emails from the addicted Petraeus.
This is so obvious it STINKS, folks. Too bad most Americans are too stupid to realize what's going on here.
Nonsense. Some times an affair is just an affair. CIA personnel are not supposed to carry on affairs because it may subject them to blackmail from the enemy. In this case, the the enemy sits in the Oval Office.
“FBI monitors government emails.”
The FBI is not allowed to monitor CIA communications - they are considered private to that agency. Can’t have FBI guys running around with CIA information. Who let them do that? Holder isn’t high enough to authorize anything pertaining to the CIA. Think only the president could authorize that.
The CIA said yesterday only they do investigation of CIA applicants and employees - the FBI does not, is not allowed to.
I believe it was March 2009 when 0bama said "More than 90% of guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States". EVERYONE knew this wasn't true. 0bama said it because he had a plan to MAKE it come true and 'Fast & Furious' was that plan and it was underway when he said it, we just didn't know about it yet. The plot to impose HARSH gun restrictions on FFL dealers was underway. If going after the gun OWNERS is too difficult, you go after the gun SELLERS and that's, in part, what 'Fast & Furious' was all about; an inroads at stripping Americans of their guns. The 0bama '90%' quote is the same 'narrative for the plot' as 'protest over a video'..
We STILL do not know if 0bama ordered F&F or not, and 0bama HAS NEVER ADDRESSED THE NATION ABOUT IT.
After the Benghazi attack, notice how 0bama was hellbent on blaming the video and an American (real or fabricated) exercising his right to free speech, INSTEAD OF THE TERRORISTS. There two reasons he did this: 1) Censorship of free speech in America, and 2) Establish an inroads to Sharia Law where criticism of the Prophet Mohammed is prohibited. At the U.N., 0bama said "THE FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO those who slander the Prophet Mohammed".. WTF!!!! THIS IS OUR PRESIDENT ESPOUSING SHARIA LAW!!! This fits perfectly into the theory that you 'never let a crisis go to waste' where Benghazi became a campaign to shut down free speech and establish a precedent for the imposition of Sharia Law in the United States. Note that the filmmaker was IMMEDIATELY arrested. Note that his sentencing trial was held 2 DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION TO PROTECT OBAMA by delaying America's outrage at his UNJUST sentence; ONE YEAR IN JAIL FOR PROBATION VIOLATION. A bit HARSH, isn't it? He was made an EXAMPLE of what happens when you slander the Prophet Mohammed!!!!!!
We STILL do not know 0bama's role during the Benghazi attack, and 0bama HAS NEVER ADDRESSED THE NATION ABOUT IT. We got a 'situation room' photo of the OBL raid. We got a Situation room photo of Hurrican Sandy. We NEVER got a situation room photo of Benghazi!!
I respectfully disagree with you. STILL.
By the way, given this affair can you think of a better name for a book than “ALL IN”??? Talk about sticking the knife in, eh?
I had a top secret clearance a long time ago....
Because of the work I did, the FBI visited my neighbors and family about once every three to four months asking questions about me and my familiy.....
I was also restricted on what countries I could visit...
The basic question is pretty much pointless and a non-issue at any level. Gen. Davy and his girlfriend are public employees using publicly owned com gear. EVERYBODY in military/security related services knows their communications can be spot checked or even shook down for appropriate use of both the equipment and type of traffic. Security people can rifle thru your desk on a spot check sometimes done once a year during a scheduled shutdown, usually for “maintenance”. It’s all a good reason to keep porn off your office computer.
Then again, how STUPID can Petraeus be to put ANYTHING even remotely incriminating in an email? The man is brilliant but like so many before him, and many to follow, fell victim to temptations of the flesh.
It's just poker terminology. It's been repurposed more than once.
What I've seen suggests it was an automated NSA email filter. The phrase "under the desk" flagged one of the emails for possible scrutiny as evidence of financial corruption. When a human analyst looked, it was obvious what was really going on. And, only at that point, probably after the WH was informed, was the FBI called in to investigate.
Most of this is old news-—Gen Davy and the Babe met clear back in 2006 when he was speaking at Hahvahd. They were both West Point grads. The extra-curricular fraternization took half a decade. That’s hardly anything Obamuzzies guys could have started but might very well have helped finish. And remember there is a lot of footage on how tight these two were getting while she was “inbed” in Afghanyland.
Were there any consequences when it was revealed that Slick’s CIA Director, Deutch, took his laptop home and it was used there by his teenage son?
This is unfortunate, I worked for Petraeus in Baghdad during 07/08. He was a straight shooter who inspired those around him. This situation will likely haunt him the rest of his days.
Was Petraeus using a government computer or his personal computer? Our government computers were under surveillance at all times for anything not work-related, and that was a few years ago. I’m sure it’s more sophisticated today.
Hillary of course it is her MO... she needs to testify and take the 5th with perp walk added
Not just them.
Right now, some kid is posting something politically incorrect. 20 years from now, he'll be running for congress from the "wrong" party.
The geek crossword puzzleteers from No Such Agency, with a few clicks, will be able to pull up every text, tweet, E-mail and blog post he's ever made and give it to the "right" party, deep-sixing him at the optimal moment.
Welcome to the brave new world, folks.
The WSJ and other articles say the email exchanges between Petraeus and Broadwell was through his private Gmail account. But still stupid as I presume the government monitors the private email accounts and home computers of people with high security clearances, in fact I have reason to believe that is true.
He was one of the guys Slick pardoned on his way out the door 20 January 2001. My recollection was, there was an investigation, but it wasn't going anywhere as long as Clinton was President and Janet Reno was AG. So, the pardon was just to make sure it wouldn't take on new life in the new administration.
Do you think the journalists in this country just abjectly abandoned their profession for ideology OR do you think raw FBI data files on the heads of these news organizations has been used against them to never, never criticize obama in the news media? If they would blackmail the CIA director, what is to blackmail the head of ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, Time, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.
The Government/Media/Finance behemoth is locked together in an unholy mess where anyone who strays from what “They” want can be ruined in a minute via this type of crap.
I feel sorry for normal people who think 3 months of food and a few cans of ammo will get them through this. If it ever collapses, it will be Hell on earth.
Your thinking is like mine. Even if the regime could be
replaced by conservatives tomorrow,I have a feeling that
many,many wheels have been set in motion to dismantle
America. That was their number one goal. Imagine all those
czars working all day,every day. Not vetted. Wonder what they have access to? Who knows.
I think the best move for conservatives at this time (not
politicians,we the people) is to close ranks. Migrate to the
reddest county that you can, stop all financial support of
big media, spend your money in red areas,red businesses etc.
Live simply and enjoy life.Constant anger,frustration and fighting all the time is too debilitating. JMHO.
I think I’m heading to the Florida Panhandle. Any advice from my Florida freepers??
I have read up on all of those people, and believe me, I realize that you are not trying to be funny.
It is not a comedy. It is a horror story.
“...who authorized FBI monitoring...”
Now, who do you think?
Shortly before this, when our esteemed chump in chief tried to blame his Benghazi failure on the CIA...
Can ya say “retaliation”?
Bahaha! If this whole thing didn’t stink to high heavens that would really be funny!
I say hillary shes good for something like this
Consider the old Carnivore system, along with Echelon. All electronic communications throughout the world are monitored, by the US in conjunction with other governments in a manner to technically avoid each individual countries legal requirements. Prior administrations may have tried to keep things as legal as possible - this one has no compunction to take advantage of opportunities. Other articles suggest the FBI was aware for months and were unhappy with the inaction by Obama and his top staff. I honestly think they just saw this as an opportunity - they had a card they could play when needed to keep DP in line. Sounds like they played it Tuesday, they are trying to keep him from testifying. He’s calling their bluff - resigned and openly admitted his failings. Let us pray he testifies truthfully and exposes the corruption. Hopefully the investigation will also find who knew what, when, about the affair - and if it can be shown Obama sat on it for political gain, at least some of the sheeple may wake up and support action.
BTW, Ron Kessler said he knew about it in early October. (That’s a “patriot” for you...)
Come on down! But we need good conservative voters down state. Plenty of R’s around here in NW Fla.
You may have touched upon something.
Who monitors the head of the CIA?
Congressional Oversight Committee perhaps or the White House, but the White House security is less rigorous than the CIA.
There is a different gamesmanship ongoing here.
There isn’t a secure chain of command with commensurate OPSEC. Instead it’s an intel maneuver warfare. Observe how Obama bounces all over the playing field. It’s obvious that he is a liar, but he continually isn’t held accountable.
If enemies of the US are concerned about those who might oppose them, and they occupy the Administration from within, how would they defend their position?
They would mold the center of gravity of reporting into conventional mechanisms in a chain of command, then monitor the reporting system. They placed Petraeus in the post after they had tooled up to monitor him. They let any intel which might implicate the traitors flow naturally to the security of the senior intel position, while they monitored the info flow.
By removing Petraeus, they are moving either to substitute another target into the position or they have adequate confidence of control to place their own in the position. They are maneuvering to overcome all systems of checks and balances for absolute power.
Obama isn't the stupid dunce that he appears to be. He's inherently lazy - or rather, wholly disinterested - when it comes to productive and *honest* work, but he sure as hell is motivated to destroy anyone or anything that is fundamentally good, decent, uplifting, honorable, righteous, and just.
He's as cold, calculating, and morally reprehensible as the most heinous serial killer. His targets are Americans and American institutions, traditions, laws, and freedoms. He holds the same hate for Jews and Israel. Evil to the core, this One is.
And same goes for his followers. They had four years to observe the gang rape of America. They either willfully chose to turn a blind eye, or they knowingly approved and participated. No excuse for the lovers of deception, defilement, and death. Repulsed by Truth and feasting upon lies, they marked themselves when they marked their ballots.
Remember what this Destroyer wrote on the One World Tower beam on [Red] Flag day?
We = Amalek/Gog and his hordes of locust destroyer demons. He and his vengeful minions came back stronger, to desolate the land and her people.
Private as in personal, as in not his CIA/government email account/government computer and as in his personal computer and or personal smart phone/personal Gmail account.
I always presume that all electronic communications at work, even with my private employer are never, ever private; hence from my work computer I never send personal emails, never give my work email to family or friends (or if I do, I tell them to never email me at work except in an emergency which is irrelevant since they can call or text me on my cell phone or call my work number). From work I never surf any sites that even might be considered the least bit controversial, never post comments on any websites, etc. And at my work, many sites are automatically blocked including but not limited to Facebook, Twitter, Stumble, LinkedIn, YouTube and just about every web based email provider.
And I also never assume that my personal electronic communications are guaranteed to be 100% private either and that is true no matter what email provider you use, not just limited to Gmail, which I use and like a lot.
But that would be especially true of someone with a high level security clearance and their close family and friends and girl freinds. Even if the NSA or FBI snooped my email, theyd find mostly junk mail, retail offers and coupons, reminder notices of bills due, emails from family and friends harmless chatty stuff like: heres some pictures of the kids trick or treating. If they snooped my text messages, theyd find stuff like: R U up for a movie 2 night? Im running late, s/b there in 20, Happy Birthday! As I dont hold a security clearance or work for a government contractor that does, I dont think the NSA/FBI/CIA has much interest in my emails or text messages unless I do something that would put me under suspicion or associate with someone on their watch list or have a personal relationship with someone with a SC.
In the early 2000s I dated a guy, a naval commander who was attached to the NSA. I dont know of course exactly what he did, nor did I want to, nor would he ever say, but I do know he was attached to, a commander of a unit named Information Warfare and presumably had a pretty high SC. And I presumed that at least after our second date, that I was being checked out and by checked out, I mean by the NSA. One tip off was when after a romantic evening out, he casually worked into the conversation, so what was your mothers maiden name, and were you born. So I said, If it helps, Ill gladly give you my SSN to make it easier for your employer to run a background check on me. He blushed and looked away and mumbled something to the effect of, they most likely already have that. You bet your bottom dollar that I presumed I was investigated and that during the entire time I dated him and probably for some time after we broke up, that my personal email account and text messages, etc., might have been subject to some random looks. And under the circumstances, I cant say I had a problem with that.
Did Israel Honey Trap David Petraeus?
November 9th, 2012 | Author: Patriot
With the breaking news on General Petraeus (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/cia-chief-petraeus-resigns-reportedly-over-affair-201305343politics.html) you might be interested in taking a look at the Mondoweiss.net link (at the following New Statesman article) which broke the story about email exchanges with David Petraeus which US mainstream media ignored as well (as also mentioned on Press TV via http://tinyurl.com/proisraelbiasedmedia & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEtASJOjDU8).
IN A NUTSHELL, there it is. And, they don't care who knows it anymore, as the MSM's have their backs.
Lies, and Lies to cover Lies. Remember it was said of Slick Willie, he lies even when he don't have to. Hillary as well. "When a lie is said often enough, people believe it". Axelrod and the gang know this....so Stall with the lies, their base understands lies, it's just who they are.
Anyone recognize a: "Nicolae Carpathia", any of this?
Gen. Petaerus was HAD. I do not for one minute believe he would be used the way he was. jmo
So, the maker of that VIDEO brought the film director to jail - for a parole violation. R-I-G-H-T.......the guy is still in jail until 3 days after election, IIRC.
Will this BIOGRAPHY, authorized or not, bust Petraeus down to PFC?
Reminds me of Admiral Ham being removed from active duty.
Where is Ham, anyway.
I'm hoping there is a good witness relocation program for him and his family.
Do we know, for sure, that the emails came from Petraeus? Could this be planted evidence? Was his compute hacked? Were his files corrupted?
Maybe he fell out during the hearing because it was finally hitting him hard that he was so easily played, and that his military career was headed for the dumpster.
I believe she said the book was co-written.
Was her co-author her 'handler', whether she knew it or not?
“Do we know, for sure, that the emails came from Petraeus?”
Can you think of ONE person with the exemplary reputation and career Petraeus enjoyed who would go public after 37 years of marriage and 2 kids with an announcement about an extramarital affair??? On the world stage, no less?
Oh, he was played but good. But, then again, he let it happen. He knew better. The flesh is mighty weak in the strongest among us.
At the very latest, this is when Petraeus, should have looked up a new biographer.
I think Obama KNEW when he hired Patre-ASS that he was COMPRIMISED and EASILY MANIPULATED and BLACKMAILED!!
Patra-ASS came out for GAYS in the MILITARY!!!! NO ONE DECENT DEOS THAT!!
Wanting OPEN GAYS in the military was HIS DOING!!
MOST men do NOT have their FIRST AFFAIR at 60!!!
As one freeper said...’The “p” in “DEMOCRAT” is for PATRIOTISM!!! BEST line I’ve ever heard!!
No need to yell, Ann.
A person can be brilliant in his or her profession, and a total dolt in his or her personal list. Happens all the time. In fact, more often than not, truly brilliant people (academically) are pitifully lacking in social skills.
Are you arguing that the “surge” Petraeus devised was not successful? Or that earning four stars and a Ph.D. from Princeton are not marks of a brilliant person?
I don’t know that anyone is arguing that having an affair (or more) is brilliant. It’s stupid. It’s immoral, and it has now cost him everything that matters in this life.
Eddie.....The surge wa successful maybe for a moment....Iraq is in shambles!!<P.All this crap about him being brilliant is HOOEY....he is a DEMOCRAT, they are CLEVER, not INTELLIGENT.....and they AREN”T GOOD PEOPLE!!! period.
I agree. I am now just wondering how compromised.
I wonder if we will ever know the truth and how much damage this man has done.
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