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Rep. Trey Gowdy: Either Petraeus Will Testify Voluntarily Over Benghazi or We Will Subpoena Him
The Blaze ^ | 11/10/2012 | Madeleine Morgensten

Posted on 11/10/2012 11:24:29 AM PST by Former Fetus

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) on Friday vowed to subpoena outgoing CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus if he won’t testify voluntarily about the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi, Libya.

Gowdy said that while he regretted the “personal ramifications” of Petraeus’ sudden resignation over an extramarital affair, it would not stop Congress from hearing from him about the assault on the consulate that left four Americans dead.

“The fact that he’s resigned and had an affair has nothing to do with whether or not he’s gonna be subpoenaed to Congress,” Gowdy said on Fox News’ “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.” “I hope we don’t have to subpoena a four-star general and the former CIA director, I hope he would come voluntarily, but if he won’t he will be subpoenaed and none of what has happened today is a defense to a subpoena.”

The CIA has come under sharp scrutiny in the wake of the Benghazi attacks. Petraeus had been slated to testify Thursday at closed congressional hearings before the House and Senate intelligence committees, but acting CIA Director Michael Morell is now expected to take his place.

“There’s no way we can get to the bot of Benghazi without David Petraeus,” Gowdy said. “While he might not be around next week because he’s got personal matters, the week after that and the week after that, this excuse will run stale.”

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1 posted on 11/10/2012 11:24:39 AM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

Doesn’t matter if they subpoena him or not. If the CIA doesn’t clear Petraeus’s testimony, it’ll be a whole lot of “I can’t comment on that question/statement.”


2 posted on 11/10/2012 11:28:20 AM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Former Fetus

I’d like to know if his statements back in September blaming the video were coerced by the 0bama regime.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 11:29:35 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: Renderofveils

LOL!

Exactly. His entire testimony will be nothing but, “I’m afraid I can’t comment on that particular issue. However, I did see ‘Skyfall’ over the weekend; anyone care to talk about that?”

You’re exactly right. He’s now a civilian, a former CIA employee, and anything he can say has to be cleared by the Agency first.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 11:36:03 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Former Fetus

have him testify on the threat that We The People of the US will have him castrated if he refuses to do so. Hey if they (Us Government) want Sharia Law than lets give them the equivalent Sharia Law or sometimes better kown as Old Testament Law. Let’s utilize on politicians and government imbeciles as the guinea pigs. see how it works on the few and the proud idiots that cannot abide by the Rule of Law.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 11:36:41 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Wouldn’t a grant of immunity cover that ?


6 posted on 11/10/2012 11:39:26 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Former Fetus

I don’t know about Trey Gowdy’s job performance record for your state but, from afar, I sure like the guy. I could listen to him talk all day long... hopefully his talk comes with bare knuckle action.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 11:40:23 AM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Renderofveils

So, on a side note, who do you think ends up running the Farm? The current temp director, or does Obama make a new pick?

And who will that new pick be?

I’ll go with.......HIllary Clinton!!

Place yer bets, boys and girls!!


8 posted on 11/10/2012 11:41:15 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Former Fetus

Doesn’t his resignation allow him to say more, not less? Aren’t the restrictions off of him?


9 posted on 11/10/2012 11:41:59 AM PST by madison10 (This kind come out only with fasting and prayer ~~ Jesus)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“You’re exactly right. He’s now a civilian, a former CIA employee, and anything he can say has to be cleared by the Agency first.”

As well as, “On the advice of my attorney I respectfully decline to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me.”


10 posted on 11/10/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Lt. Col. Ralph Peters On Petraeus: “Timing Is Just Too Perfect”

LT. COL. RALPH PETERS: The timing is just too perfect for the Obama administration. Just as the administration claimed it was purely coincidence that our Benghazi consulate was attacked on the anniversary of September 11th. Now it’s purely coincidence that this affair — extra-marital affair — surfaces right after the election, not before, but right after, but before the intelligence chiefs go to Capitol Hill to get grilled. As an old intelligence analyst, Neil, the way I read this — I could be totally wrong, this is my interpretation — is that the administration was unhappy with Petraeus not playing ball 100% on their party-line story. I think it’s getting cold feet about testifying under oath on their party-line story. And I suspect that these tough Chicago guys knew about this affair for a while, held it in their back pocket until they needed to play the card.

I don’t like conspiracy theories, I may be totally wrong, but the timing of this, again, right after the election and right before Petraeus is supposed to get grilled on Capitol Hill, it’s really smells.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/09/lt_col_ralph_peters_on_petraeus_timing_is_just_too_perfect.html


11 posted on 11/10/2012 11:44:49 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("God only knows it's not what we would choose to do." - Lyric from Us and Them - Pink Floyd)
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To: madison10

That’s what I’m thinking. Somebody was holding his affair over his head and he broke clean. He now has the ability to say whatever he wants. This is a closed door interrogation.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 11:45:56 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Stormdog

Not so fast. He can be called back to active duty as a 4 star general and ordered to testify. He is “not just a civilian” as a retired 4 star. I bet he wants to testify.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 11:46:11 AM PST by affan76
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That’s a hell of a good question, I must admit.

Is it even possible to give a CIA agent immunity (current or former)?

My gut tells me this ends up with the CIA basically telling any Congressional investigative committee to go f*** itself and the proceed to stonewalling. End of story.

There is an alternative....closed-door, off-the-record hearings, with the testimony classified as “National Security” and all those involved forbidden to publicly disclose the results under penalty of law. That’s actually a distinct possibility.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 11:48:41 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Renderofveils

They could have him testify in private and then redact his testimony.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 11:51:06 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Unbelievable / Believable!)
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To: affan76

“Not so fast. He can be called back to active duty as a 4 star general and ordered to testify. He is “not just a civilian” as a retired 4 star. I bet he wants to testify.”

I hope that you are right. But, WHO calls him back? Do you think that Obunghole would let that happen?

Let me re-phrase that, would Jarrett let that happen?


16 posted on 11/10/2012 11:51:21 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Former Fetus

Petraeus fell on his sword for his CIC. Good luck with getting him to testify against his boss.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 11:52:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Petraeus fell on his sword for his CIC. That's kind of the feeling I get as well. I think if he does testify, it's just gonna be, "Gee, you know, sorry guys, but that's national security. Can't talk it about. Hey....how 'bout them Giants this year, huh? One hell of a team!"
18 posted on 11/10/2012 11:55:50 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don’t think immunity is the issue. The CIA would cite “national security” as an excuse for not allowing him to reveal classified information. That excuse would not work in a closed session, but then we the general public would not learn what happened.


19 posted on 11/10/2012 12:00:56 PM PST by stillonaroll
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think it is clear that the regime waited until after the election and then started the purge. They now have a choice position with which they can reward one of their loyalists. The larger question now is: What will Petraeus say in his testimony? I think they need to have a closed session and ensure he can discuss classified, otherwise he may not be able to say much. That may be what the 0bama regime is counting on.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 12:06:23 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Exactly. His entire testimony will be nothing but, “I’m afraid I can’t comment on that particular issue. However, I did see ‘Skyfall’ over the weekend; anyone care to talk about that?” You’re exactly right. He’s now a civilian, a former CIA employee, and anything he can say has to be cleared by the Agency first.

Congressional Committee...secret session...grant of immunity = he testifies fully or he's held in contempt of Congress.

21 posted on 11/10/2012 12:06:23 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I liked Mr. Gowdy’s visit on Greta the other night. So far he was the only one who’s explicitly stated that Petraeus will testify, voluntarily or not. Many other Republicans who have spoken on the matter use phrases like “He really needs to,” or “We would like him to,” leading me to think they’re eventually going to fold as usual.

Here’s what really bothers me, though, and I’m hoping somebody can reassure me. I don’t think I can think of a flimsier excuse for Petraeus to resign (as Peter King said on Fox this morning, looking back through our history as a nation were Eisenhower, FDR or MacArthur forced to resign for extramarital affairs?), yet that’s exactly what this administration expects us to believe.

As thoroughly corrupt and unfailingly evil as Hillary and He Who Shall Not Be Named and their ilk are, they’re not stupid. It makes me think they know some technicality we don’t that will preclude Petraeus from testifying, and it’s precisely how these disgusting lawyer types weasel out of consequences every time.

Thoughts?


22 posted on 11/10/2012 12:12:23 PM PST by Westchester
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To: Former Fetus

What about Hillary? Has she been invited?


23 posted on 11/10/2012 12:12:27 PM PST by csvset
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To: Former Fetus

Either way works for me.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 12:13:55 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Gator113

I really like Trey Gowdy. He’s tough and doesn’t sound like he will roll over for the Muslim in the WH.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 12:14:20 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

What a lot of people are overlooking here is that this all really comes down to Petraeus, not the CIA or the Obama White House. They can come up with any reason they’d like to keep him from testifying, but if he willingly goes and testifies — most likely under immunity — he can sing like a canary and there isn’t much they can do about it.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 12:15:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Former Fetus
“While he might not be around next week because he’s got personal matters..........""""".....

He will testify. He needs to find safety and protection for his family FIRST, they are in danger. He needs to seek this protection from Congress.

Once his family is secured, and if he lives long enough. He will Testify. JMO

27 posted on 11/10/2012 12:17:03 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Gator113
TREY GOWDY..........wow. I can listen to him all day as well, especially in these hearings. What a pit bull. Finally.

Chaffetz as well.

28 posted on 11/10/2012 12:19:50 PM PST by annieokie
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To: KeyLargo

H.R. Halderman..John Erlichman..John Mitchell all tried that once in Watergate. They all went to prison. C.I.A. director or not, you cant lie to congress under oath. Whether from the top or not, this will come out. There are 2 stories here..the attack itself..plus the coverup. There’s an article of Impeachment in somebodies future...”abuse of power”


29 posted on 11/10/2012 12:28:37 PM PST by basalt (r)
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To: Former Fetus

Any chance Trey will challenge Light In The Loafers Graham?


30 posted on 11/10/2012 12:30:30 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Former Fetus
History will record whether he now chooses "honor" over fear of reprisal from the Administration he served at the end of his career.

Hopefully, if he testifies, he will do so with an acute awareness of duty, honor, country, history and eternity as his guides.

31 posted on 11/10/2012 12:31:34 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Former Fetus

The upcoming hearings will be a farce. I can already tell you what’s going
To happen. It will be very similar to a move I watched.
This movie movie was about the Jewish resistance in Poland.
This movement killed some German solders.
The Germans rounded a bunch of them up and threatened to kill one
Of the resistance members if no one stepped forward to take responsibility.
No one stepped forward and the Germans killed one.
The Germans then threatened to kill another one if the did not name the
Person responsible for killing the Germans. When the Germans asked
Again, they all pointed to the dead resistance fighter.

All of the hacks, like Susan Rice, Hillary etc will point to Betrayus as the
Source of the video lies. And since Betrayus is no longer CIA Director,
Ne may not be allowed to dicuss classified information.
A farce is coming. The dumb GOP should have put all of them under oath
Before the elections.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 12:31:55 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: annieokie

Chaffetz, yes... I like him as well. People that can’t stand up and fight, should have never been allowed to enter the ring.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 12:34:04 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Westchester

If you’ve had access to CLASSIFIED material, when you leave the position that gave you access, you are debriefed. The standard verbage generally says something to the effect “ you are not allowed to discuss anything unless specifically permitted to do so”. That is why the committee needs to evaluate the situation and how they approach his testimony. If they don’t do that, then they will likely end up with no answers from him.


34 posted on 11/10/2012 12:41:40 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: annieokie

Love that guy!! He is a hottie too....lol!


35 posted on 11/10/2012 12:49:06 PM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The house can easily remedy that. Tell the CIA, if Betrayus is not allowed
To dicuss classified information, the House will cut funding.
Do I think Bonehead and Cantor have the guts or will? No.

After all, Bonehead and Cantor are to busy now working another
Grand Bargain with Obama to screw us again.


36 posted on 11/10/2012 12:50:36 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
So, on a side note, who do you think ends up running the Farm?

Bill Maher or Rosie O'Donnell.

37 posted on 11/10/2012 12:56:31 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; MestaMachine

ping


38 posted on 11/10/2012 12:58:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: penelopesire
Love that guy!! He is a hottie too....lol!""".........

ROFL hahahahaha.......I'm to old to remember "hottie". rofl

If I weren't so old, I would say, YEAH... Definately a MAN.

39 posted on 11/10/2012 1:07:23 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Starting off slow. Anyone wanting on the Benghazi ping list, please let me know.


40 posted on 11/10/2012 1:19:48 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: penelopesire

lol. Need some Ice water?..lol


41 posted on 11/10/2012 1:31:17 PM PST by annieokie
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To: basalt
I see three scandals here...


42 posted on 11/10/2012 1:36:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: csvset

Chaffetz said last night had had just learned Hillary will be “unavailable” next week.


43 posted on 11/10/2012 1:40:45 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: annieokie

You are pretty close. For me the key to Petraeus testimony is this.

If he turns up dead, then it was known that he was going to spill the beans.
If he lives to testify then nothing worthwhile will come out of it.


44 posted on 11/10/2012 1:42:00 PM PST by waredbird
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To: basalt

Why can’t they put BO and Hillary under oath? Why are they protected?


45 posted on 11/10/2012 2:19:44 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Former Fetus

Love Gowdy. He kicked butt in the hearings.


46 posted on 11/10/2012 2:24:13 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: waredbird
Perfect opportunity to remind Petraeus this......

'It's better to die a hero than live a coward': Father of Navy SEAL who died in Benghazi raid launches blistering attack on Obama....

""Better to die a hero than live a Coward""......

Pay attention General. I feel you are that type of man, your soiled but redeemable. Regain you self respect, duty requires it.

47 posted on 11/10/2012 2:29:06 PM PST by annieokie
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To: waredbird
If he turns up dead, then it was known that he was going to spill the beans.

If he lives to testify then nothing worthwhile will come out of it.""""""".....

Good points: also though: If he lives, someone gave him some good protection.....hoping this is the case. He seems to be the key to unlock this whole debacle.

48 posted on 11/10/2012 2:40:32 PM PST by annieokie
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To: dandiegirl

as of now...its only in the “oversight” committee.As more of this comes out...as more people “flip”..then a “select committee” to investigate will be formed..then the fun will really start..supoenas will fly. From what im seeing, the entire top tier of this administration is involved in this. Get ya popcorn.


49 posted on 11/10/2012 2:51:57 PM PST by basalt (r)
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To: Former Fetus
I have read everything I can find about this - what happened, how it happened, when it happened, if he will testify, if he CAN testify, if he can get immunity, if he needs to have immunity, etc., and we are basically whistling in the wind.

One thing I have penned down. The first person to mention the film, was Petraeus, when he first testified. From that point on, the president and Hillary and UN Rice were stuck on the film.

Trying to predict from here what will happen is useless. The congressmen in House and Senate will hold their hearings and they know what to do with Petraeus as they know the law regarding testifying and will follow that to get Petraeus testimony.

I have to believe that Petraeus is an honorable man who will tell the truth no matter what that means to him or the president or Hillary or Rice or anyone else involved.

Until his testimony is released to the public, I have no opinion what happened in Benghazi to cause the death of our men as I think his testimony is the beginning of the truth that will unlock the rest.

50 posted on 11/10/2012 2:53:46 PM PST by Marcella (“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic)
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