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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not so sure. As long as a democrat thinks they are getting their share of a zero sum game pie, they will keep voting democrat. They wilil never vote to expand the pie. Does anyone in Detroit look up and say, “We’ve been voting democrat for forty years, and Detroit looks like a burned out war zone. Do you think we should stop doing that?”


4 posted on 11/10/2012 1:50:51 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
As long as a democrat thinks they are getting their share of a zero sum game pie, they will keep voting democrat.

Exactly! Growing the size of the pie makes no sense to them, nor does the saying: "A rising tide lifts all boats". Rather than giving business a break, Obozo wants to punish them. Brilliant, you arrogant dunce! I don't know about everyone else, but in 45 years of work, not one poor person ever hired me. When a lady screams: "Vote for Obama 'cuz he give me a free cell phone", I fear this Republic is toast.

7 posted on 11/10/2012 1:57:00 PM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Most of the people in and around Detroit and Dearborn are too stupid, ignorant, and union-upped to give a damn about what is really going on around them.

They are the ‘gimme/gimme more’ generation of welfare-like parasites who didn’t realize that they were not just biting the hand that feeds them, but actually biting if off.

No hand, no handouts.

When Detroit elected marxists like Mary Ann Mahaffey and Erma Henderson to run their City Council, along with Carl Levin, Jackie Vaughan, etc, they sealed their fate.

And keeping the veteran communist John Conyers in office despite his over 50-year record of supporting the Communist Party USA and the Socialist Workers Party, then later the Workers World Party, shows that the voters up there have no brains. They are now getting what they deserve for betraying their country.


53 posted on 11/10/2012 10:29:06 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Vince Ferrer

I spoke to a recent emmigrant to America. He came from Mumbai and was in his late 50s. He delightedly voted for Obama because Romney (he couldn’t pronounce the name - do you think that influenced his vote a little?) would take away his “social” and “put down his [this guy’s] money”.

In the 3rd World the rich really do control the laws and use them against the poor. It really is a zero sum game. This is the mentality that Democrats appeal to. If crony capitalism and activist judges exist the poor see that and they want a protector. That the protector and the rapist are one and the same they don’t seem to get.

I know we hope to educate people and I always cling to that hope myself, but I don’t think so. Let me share another anecdote with you:

A single woman I know is a high earner (top 5%) very pro-family. To hear her talk you’d think she was at worst a moderate. She voted for Obama, twice despite the fact that she is getting killed by taxes, insurance, etc. She’s not stupid. She’s a successful business person.

The trouble is she’s a social liberal. I don’t mean by policy positions, but by group dynamics. She must fit in. She is materialistic and a rabid gossip. Here’s a taste of her thinking:

FUBU jeans is a black owned company. FUBU - stands for Five Urban Brothers United, but there is a rumor it stands for For Us By Us. Here’s the rumor: Tommy Hilfiger went on Oprah and arrogantly stated that he doesn’t make clothes for black people. In a rage a black entrepreneur responded by founding FUBU, a successful company.

The story isn’t true, yet this woman perpetuates it. She told it to me and my kids and we were incredulous. Even if Tommy H. felt that way what businessman would go public with that kind of talk? We looked it up and found that he really did go on Oprah, but to refute it and that Oprah said, “It never happened” and went on to say that Tommy’s a good person, not racist, etc.

We showed this woman the info, along with all the supporting links. Despite all the evidence, despite his own protestations and the words of Oprah here was her response: “I don’t care. He’s still a jerk.”

That’s what we’re up against. The franchise is too broad. We have democracy and we’re paying for it dearly.


57 posted on 11/11/2012 5:33:36 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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