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E-Mails From Biographer to a Third Party Led to Petraeus
NYT ^ | 11-10-2012 | SCOTT SHANE and ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 11/10/2012 3:17:48 PM PST by thouworm

The F.B.I. investigation that led to the resignation of David H. Petraeus as C.I.A. director on Friday began with a complaint several months ago about “harassing” e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to an unidentified third person, a government official briefed on the case said Saturday....

The person who complained about harassing messages from Ms. Broadwell, according to the official, was not a family member or a government official. One Congressional official who was briefed on the matter on Friday said senior intelligence officials had explained that the F.B.I. investigation “started with two women.”

...A senior intelligence official said Saturday that Mr. Clapper had learned of Mr. Petraeus’s situation only when the F.B.I. notified him about 5 p.m. on Tuesday. That night and the next day, the official said, the two men discussed the situation, and Mr. Clapper told Mr. Petraeus “that he thought the right thing to do would be to resign,” the intelligence official said.

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KEYWORDS: benghazi; broadwell; broadwellemails; navyseals; petraeusaffair; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi
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1 posted on 11/10/2012 3:17:53 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

2 posted on 11/10/2012 3:19:48 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: thouworm

Doesn’t everyone know that any email that is sent has the potential to be read by anyone in your organization?

Emails are never private.

Sheesh. This guy lead our military and doesn’t know that?


3 posted on 11/10/2012 3:20:53 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: thouworm
This is what the FBI is leaking:

FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption.

4 posted on 11/10/2012 3:24:12 PM PST by oldbrowser (Welcome to U.S.Zimbabwe)
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To: thouworm


5 posted on 11/10/2012 3:24:58 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: thouworm

I thought maybe it was his wife (Holly, a government employee in DC) but evidently not. How many women was he carrying on with? He doesn’t look like a stud muffin, but power and the challenge of (theoretical)unattainability seem to be a major aphrodisiac for many women.

Still, this was all clearly set up as the Obama October Surprise because Bambi & Co. assumed Petraeus was going to be the VP nominee.

However, it didn’t work out that way, so they were able to have this revelation and his resignation postponed till after the election, also hoping that this would keep him from testifying on Benghazi.

Petraeus strikes me as very loyal to whoever is in charge at a given moment, so I don’t think he’s going to do anything that might damage Bambi now. However, I don’t think he’d lie under oath. So he’ll fade into the twilight, which Obama will be only too happy to let him do.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 3:25:15 PM PST by livius
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To: MestaMachine

Ping

Every major story I have seen about this differs widely on the facts. Here is another.

Theory: Could the Obama Adm have been digging up dirt on Petraeus back when he was feared to be Romney’s VP choice, and then when he wasn’t, they held their dirt for a rainy day. The rainy day came on Sept. 11th.

They fear exposure over selling weapons to Al Qaeda more than they do their negligence in allowing 4 American citizens die.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 3:25:38 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Gah! Can you STAND it???? thouworm, how long have we been on petraeus' case?

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


8 posted on 11/10/2012 3:26:02 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: livius

“hoping that this would keep him from testifying on Benghazi.”

Can’t congress subpoena him whether he is holding an office or not?

I’m not sure how leaking this would stop the hearing. They can’t use this as blackmail — he is already out. I wonder if the Obama goons have more on him?


9 posted on 11/10/2012 3:29:14 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Jim Noble

HAH! My first thought!


10 posted on 11/10/2012 3:30:46 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: thouworm

Predictable and what party is it that has the war on women?


11 posted on 11/10/2012 3:30:52 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: MestaMachine

“Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.”

Add me!


12 posted on 11/10/2012 3:31:13 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: MestaMachine

Would also explain why he flat-out lied about the protest & YouTube video.

Will you give some links or a short paragraph or two about your relevant knowledge about Patraeus?

I think most on FR have never seen it....and, I for one, would like to be reminded. You have information and theories that can’t be found with a Google search of Petraeus. We need to be reminded.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 3:32:29 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm; livius
The problem with your scenarios is that Barack Obama seems to be the only one in Washington who had any notion that Romney would select Petraeus as his running mate.

Afghanistan was barely even a subject of conversation in this campaign (that itself should be the topic of some investigative reporting), and with mounting U.S. casualties over there in the last couple of years Petraeus would be seen as a huge liability for anyone who was linked to him.

14 posted on 11/10/2012 3:35:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: garjog
"Can’t congress subpoena him whether he is holding an office or not?"

Yes, they can.....and have already said as much about him.

15 posted on 11/10/2012 3:35:28 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: thouworm

The Lamestream media is in complete cover up mode. Now the WaPo and NYT have identical articles that gives the impression that this all developed 2 weeks ago. That is not what was reported when the story first broke.
Everyone needs to check out the NewsMax article on this from yesterday for an alternate timeline. I think 0zer0 set Petraeus up from day one and the FBI had to know about this affair in real time. According to the article, the FBI suspected the issue in the Spring 2011 when Petraeus was commander in Afghanistan. 0zer0 appointed Petraeus to CIA in April 2011, but he didn’t assume the office until Sep 2011.
The article says the FBI was investigating this for months because Petraeus was sending thousands of emails to her. That had to be in 2011. This means that the FBI had to know what was going on in real time, probably as Petraeus was being vetted for the CIA post, and certainly before he was confirmed, and that is why they couldn’t believe 0zer0 wouldn’t fire this guy, let alone hire the guy.
I don’t see any explanation other than 0zer0 knew about this (or someone high up in the admin did, and didn’t tell anyone... FBI director Mueller had to know, and that means Holder had to know, and probably National Security Director Donolon). That means 0zer0 had to know, and is lying about this when the WH says they first found out about it Wednesday after the election.
I bet 0zer0 knew Petraeus was compromised when he appointed him and counted on this trump card to be used against Petraeus when he needed it, and Benghazi is it. The timeline proves it.
Whether Petraeus has any smoking gun information and will spill it is completely unknown. But for me, I am convinced that 0zer0 knew about the affair and deliberately appointed and retained an obviously compromised CIA director to have something to blackmail him with later. This explains why a compromised CIA director was ok to appoint and retain for over a year, but now a year after the affair, is a liability only because Benghazi is hitting the fan. This confirms everything you need to know about 0zer0.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 3:37:08 PM PST by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Euthanasia Healthcare)
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To: thouworm

Wanna know my pet name for Abraham Lincoln?

I used to call him "Mr. Fuzzy Buddy McFuzzbutt."

Yes I did.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 3:39:26 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: livius

posted 7 before I saw your 6. GMTA, lol.

Michael Morell is going to testify in Petraeus’ place this week. He can obfuscate in all kinds of ways.

And even if they get Petraeus to testify in the future, he can’t reveal classified info, from what I have read. In other words, his testimony will be more limited than it otherwise would have been.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 3:40:14 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, please!


19 posted on 11/10/2012 3:40:47 PM PST by bonfire
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To: thouworm

Folks, the affair was over. In all the US government, including generals and Nat’l Security officials, you really thing Patraeus was the only one worthy of an investigation into his personal life? Think ANY others have affairs, are gay, etc? And it was necessary to confront him right now, not when the affair was active, not when he was nominated?

I do not remember anyone this was done to in my lifetime, and I’m not young.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 3:46:26 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: thouworm

“House asks Clinton to testify on Benghazi, but she declines due to scheduling conflict” http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-asked-clinton-to-testify-on-benghazi-but-she-declines-due-to-scheduling-conflict/article/2513151

Hmmm. I wonder what would happen if one of us ignored a subpena to testify before Congress because of a scheduling conflict?

Sorry. Got a meeting then. See you later.


21 posted on 11/10/2012 3:47:27 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog

The confusion happened when the FBI was instructed to investigate “strange” e-mails.


22 posted on 11/10/2012 3:47:55 PM PST by Gritty-Kitty
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To: livius

Women are attracted to power. Not stud muffins.


23 posted on 11/10/2012 3:48:15 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: thouworm

Long story short:
CIA agent in Iraq trying to square away saddam’s weapons-—
Weapons moving from Iraq to Libya-—
Agent gets info these weapons are moving-—
petraeus figures prominently-—
Agent is murdered outside his hotel in broad daylight-—
Agent’s laptop containing contact names and evidence is stolen-—
petraeus moves up in the ranks. Was a two star-—
Weapons moving from Libya to Syria-—
petraeus figures prominently-—
Four Americans are murdered-—
petraeus lies to Congress-—
petraeus resigns


24 posted on 11/10/2012 3:51:02 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Jim Noble

LOL

No Shiite...


25 posted on 11/10/2012 3:52:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SDShack

“deliberately appointed and retained an obviously compromised CIA director to have something to blackmail him”

Could the blackmail have been why Petraeus so strongly supported ending DADT?


26 posted on 11/10/2012 3:52:50 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Andrei Bulba

“I do not remember anyone this was done to in my lifetime”

I think that military officers have a different standard. They have a code of ethics that forbid extramarital affairs. Isn’t that is a long standing ethic.

Can’t fight with someone who can’t keep a promise to his wife.


27 posted on 11/10/2012 3:57:18 PM PST by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: thouworm

Petraeus is a whore... a dirty whore... he carries political disease...


28 posted on 11/10/2012 3:58:09 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: MestaMachine

add me please


29 posted on 11/10/2012 4:02:44 PM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: bonfire

When is someone going to blackmail BO. He’s got plenty in his hidden past to be used. Maybe Putin is blackmailing him.


30 posted on 11/10/2012 4:02:44 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: thouworm
She reminds me so much of Fluke....

Yes....I blame Bloomer...He couldn't leave....she could...

She belongs in prison.

31 posted on 11/10/2012 4:07:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Head of CIA....having an affair compromises one’s security clearance...I don’t much care about anyone else...Pertaeus has disgraced his country and his uniform...and probably contributed to the murder of all those who died in Benghazi....that makes him dirt.

If he has any sense of shame he will go before congress and testify to EVERYTHING even if it means telling secrets. Otherwise the guy is no better than the Destroyer in Chief at the WH


32 posted on 11/10/2012 4:08:48 PM PST by Nifster
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To: thouworm
Remember, Petreaus replaced the General in Afghanistan who Obama recalled because the General said bad things about Obama. I believe Obama ended his career.

Obama has lotsa patterns.

Why do you think half his team is leaving.....unprecedented.

33 posted on 11/10/2012 4:13:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: garjog

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/06/obama-fires-general-mcchrystal-afghan-top-general-questioned-obamas-leadership-skills/


34 posted on 11/10/2012 4:17:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: thouworm
Idiot Petraues.  Perfect opportunity to get setup and I don't think she helped him fall on his sword, several times, for free.  She got paid from someone.
 
Oh well, time to turn the page:
 
 
"All In" that was the title of the book?  Really?  LOL...Ironic.
 
Personally, I'd hit her but, I'm not married nor the General of a badazz army or the head of the CIA.  If I wuz, beleive me, I'd be high enough without compromising my country or looking like I could be.
 
Career disappation light implodes, Epically.
 
Pull that hair down and shake it babe!!:
 
 
 
 
Changed my mind:
 
 
 

35 posted on 11/10/2012 4:20:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Nifster
having an affair compromises one’s security clearance

Actually, it doesn't, but it's a nice myth.

36 posted on 11/10/2012 4:24:19 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

If one has the affair while maintaining a security clearance it puts you at risk for blackmail. You think you know something about clearances and I can guarantee you it does indeed....just as being an active alcoholic does and having money problems does...


37 posted on 11/10/2012 4:26:49 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Actually, what you think you know about this subject you don’t.


38 posted on 11/10/2012 4:39:18 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: thouworm

He betrayed us, she betrayed him. Sweet!


39 posted on 11/10/2012 4:47:26 PM PST by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: garjog

Eisenhower, as chief of the European theater during WWII had an affair with his woman driver - I think her name was Kay Summersby - and then he went on to serve two terms as president.


40 posted on 11/10/2012 5:02:48 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: thouworm; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Broadwell, Clapper, the jokes are waiting to be written.


41 posted on 11/10/2012 5:05:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t think it had to do with Afghanistan. I don’t recall exactly when Petraeus ceased to be in charge there, but one of the horrible things that nobody talks about is that US troop deaths under Obama were 2.5 times the entire level of troop deaths in the preceeding 8 Bush years, including when Petraeus was in charge.

And almost all of the Obama deaths were not in military actions, but resulted from attacks by native forces that the commanders had been told they had to include and had to trust. And I think Petraeus approved this.

As I said, Petraeus is a basic military man and does whatever he is told to do by whoever is in charge at that moment, whether he likes it or not. But he must no longer be of any use to Obama.


42 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:08 PM PST by livius
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To: Sacajaweau

The other woman was also a major in the army...was she ever on duty while bagging the head guy? How does the UCMJ handle that one?


43 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:15 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: kabumpo
Eisenhower, as chief of the European theater during WWII had an affair with his woman driver - I think her name was Kay Summersby - and then he went on to serve two terms as president.

Maybe. Maybe not. There's never been any conclusive evidence of this claim.

44 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: MestaMachine; SDShack; Gritty-Kitty; Alberta's Child; livius; oldbrowser; garjog

Thanks.

This story makes no sense. These basic “facts” can’t all be true.

FOX,NYT,WaPo, Newsmax

FOX:

As of today, Fox is still reporting that “FBI discovered that Broadwell appeared to have access to Gen Petreaus’ personal email account, so FBI agents started monitoring Petraeus’ email, though he was not under investigation.”

NYT:

The F.B.I. investigation...began with a complaint several months ago about “harassing” e-mails sent by Paula Broadwell, Mr. Petraeus’s biographer, to an unidentified third person.

When F.B.I. agents following up on the complaint began to examine Ms. Broadwell’s e-mails, they discovered exchanges between her and Mr. Petraeus that revealed that they were having an affair,

A senior intelligence official said Saturday that Mr. Clapper had learned of Mr. Petraeus’s situation only when the F.B.I. notified him about 5 p.m. on Tuesday [election night].

WAPO:

The collapse of the dazzling career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him...The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender....The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus.

Petraeus allegations became a secret election-night drama for the Obama administration. That evening, the Justice Department informed the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., that their investigation had unearthed compromising information about the CIA director, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

NEWSMAX:

However, an FBI source says the investigation began when American intelligence mistook an email Petraeus had sent to his girlfriend as a reference to corruption. Petraeus was commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan from July 4, 2010 until July 18, 2011.

The investigation began last spring, but the FBI then pored over his emails when he was stationed in Afghanistan.

At some point after Petraeus was sworn in as CIA director on Sept. 6, 2011, the woman broke up with him. However, Petraeus continued to pursue her, sending her thousands of emails over the last several months, raising even more questions about his judgment.
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Rep Peter King asking, “Why was the F.B.I. investigating the C.I.A. and this was involving a compromised computer of the director of the C.I.A., nobody told the president or the White House?”


45 posted on 11/10/2012 5:16:49 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: kabumpo

As I recall there were at least two Republican candidates who ran for the nomination this year that were known to have had affairs and one continued to be a great Speaker of the House.

Of course in those days email mining was not even on the radar.


46 posted on 11/10/2012 5:38:09 PM PST by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: SDShack

You make an interesting point. Let me add:

— FBI + (I presume) non-consensual email collection = FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) investigation (ie electronic monitoring)

— Per NYT article, “The person who complained about harassing messages from Ms. Broadwell, according to the official, was not a family member or a government official.” Who is the person that is neither a gov official nor a family member of presumably a gov official so important that could trigger an FBI investigation; an intelligence source perhaps.

— Is Ms. Broadwell an accredited journalist? If she is, she either gave consent to have her email looked at by the FBI or they did it surreptitiously. If the later and she is an accredited journalist then this required high up approval per EO 12333 and all US Gov Departments’ derivative rules under the EO.

I have many other questions yet like Benghazi I do think they will go answered.

Nothing to see here; move along.

Regards.


47 posted on 11/10/2012 5:38:14 PM PST by Sine_Pari
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To: thouworm

Maybe this second woman wasn’t a romantic rival but a business rival.


48 posted on 11/10/2012 6:42:31 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: thouworm

“Stay away from David or I’ll.........”

That gets FBI attention these days? Maybe, if the second woman was somebody important. Who could it be? Any bets?


49 posted on 11/10/2012 6:46:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: livius
... one of the horrible things that nobody talks about is that US troop deaths under Obama were 2.5 times the entire level of troop deaths in the preceeding 8 Bush years, including when Petraeus was in charge.

You're right -- nobody talks about this. MITT ROMNEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS.

I'm really surprised more people didn't pick up on this and start asking some very blunt questions about what this 2012 election was all about.

50 posted on 11/10/2012 8:38:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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