Skip to comments.BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida [False assumption? Two card ballot?]
Posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:42 PM PST by Kaslin
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Of course it was, there aren’t that many ignorant voters out there
I read that the UN inspectors were surprised that no photo IDs were required
It’s only been debunked by Freepers opinions as to what happened. No official will talk, no official statement, and the Elections Head when interviewed by NBC affiliate on the 7th, said She had “no idea” why?
I want to read an official statement. This county is different on reporting than the rest I looked at. Other counties, had more pages, yet didn’t report this way.
Plausible explanation, but nothing OFFICIAL. I want OFFICIAL.
because they like watching their critics make fools of themselves and too many are obliging them.
158.85% voter turnout? That’s kind of low by Democrat standards.
That's only because you're not looking hard enough. The County BoE data clearly demonstrates that this explanation is correct - if you look at the number of votes cast in any given race, compared to the number of registered voters, you'll see that the voter turnout is ~70%, not ~140%. Moreover, the State Board of Elections site, which lists turnout for each county, shows that turnout in St. Lucie County was ~70%, not ~140%.
Because it’s still on the official St. Lucie Elections site? With no explanation.
They don’t need to explain it. Don’t expect them to.
I looked. What is your explanation for the Election Director’s statement? Why no explanation from officials after the NBC affiliate’s interview and pointing this poorly done report on the 7th? Why nothing on their County site. It’s not that I haven’t looked hard enough. I’ve looked all over. I saw the numbers. When snowislander posted his/her explanation last night, I posted it on all the threads that I have been on.
Again, what is YOUR explanation as to the Official and no explanation other than Freepers?
this is a plausible explanation, but to ridicule others for looking at an official county report, the Election director’s comment, an NBC affiliate report, and wonder why no “official” comment out of that County office, is not right.
He should sue to have the results thrown out because it is a clear case of ballot box stuffing.
You may be right in that. No Bureaucrat is ever forced to explain themselves.
This woman looks incompetent and needs to go. I’m not getting taxpayers money to head the Elections dept. in St. Lucie County. I’ll bet it pays very well.
ABSOLUTELY!!! Make the vote on the day specified, have ID that is impeccable, English ONLY, and if there must be some accommodation for voters who work or must travel, extend the voting DAY to 24 hours...or longer if there are still people in line waiting to vote...but no more.
Absentee ballots should only be delivered to those who CAN NOT get to the polls for provable, VALID REASONS.
MILITARY ballots should receive top priority.
Your explanation, if true, adds further confusion. I live and voted in Palm Beach County (District 22, West’s previous district). There were 3 pages to the ballot. They try to ‘improve’ things because this is the home of the infamous butterfly ballot and hanging chads from the 2000 catastrophe. My understanding was that each of the 3 pages had the same serial number, and the volunteers running the show were very careful to verify each voters’ district and precinct based on address. This was the process for early voting, as citizens of PB County were allowed to early vote at any designated early voting location in the county. In other words you did not have to go to your specified precinct to vote because the early voting books contain all roughly million registerd voters in Palm Beach County.
If you early voted you had to sign a document with penalty of law that essentially states you will not vote more than once. On Election Day, obviously only those who hadn’t already voted are authorized to vote, and you are required to vote only at your designate precinct. Unlike early voting, your precinct has books with those people who are registered, alphabetically in their precincts. They check your ID and then you sign the book next to your name. Since Early voting finishes just a few days before Election Day, there is NO update to the precinct books to indicate who already voted early. You are ON YOUR HONOR at that point.
Fraud is very easy because it is assumed nobody is going to check the early voting books against the precinct votes and verify the signed documents. Allen West has a very good reason to check this out. There are millions of people in Palm Beach, Martin and St. Lucie counties. Early voting is loose at best and it’s easy to steal such a close result with the system as it is.
Could be possible but seems unlikely. OTOH, I find it deplorable that every time there's a recount, numbers change. There's no excuse for that.
“... 2 page ballot with races on both sides to be marked. Thus one voter had his ballot fed into the counter twice in order to count both pages. If you’ll go look at the total votes for St Lucie cty you’ll see that the actual vote turnout was just over 70%.”
Pesky reality, thanks deport.
Say how did all those great Tea Party House candidates do in Texas?
My guess about the official's initial "I don't know why" reaction is that the official didn't realize (until asked) that the software had counted things this way and was caught off guard by the question.
I wouldn't expect any further official explanation, because the data explains itself - the first pages of the data are clearly calculated in terms of "Cards Cast", each ballot clearly consisted of two cards, the remainder of the data clearly lists the number of ballots cast in each race (which clearly shows a ~70% turnout), and the official state-level reporting clearly lists a ~70% turnout. To put it bluntly, I wouldn't expect any further official explanation because the data clearly explains itself to anyone who takes the time to actually read past the first two pages.
This won’t stop until red counties start having 150% turnout
I voted in the Florida election. The ballot was so long that it was on two ballot sheets. I think this is the key. Every voter got two ballot sheets or “cards” to vote with. Not saying that there wasnt massive voting fraud in many places but the 100 plus percent for voter cards is based on each voter getting two cards.