Skip to comments.BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida [False assumption? Two card ballot?]
Posted on 11/10/2012 4:05:42 PM PST by Kaslin
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So that’s why NC elected all those new Republicans! Welcome to the Mid Atlantic!
(Wondered where you were around the election. Glad to hear all is well.)
I have the same question as you with respect to the turnout. The enthusiasm was very high and the waiting lines for early voting were very long. I haven’t seen the actual percentages but I believe what you are saying.
‘Concede’ has no legal meaning. ‘Electors’ will choose the president this December 17.
Best poll watchers? High school seniors. No one knows who they are till a week before election day. They are randomly selected from across the country and none of them work in the district they live in.
I’ll bite. Who is the goofball? NBC affiliate WPTV?
I agree that some Freepers explanations are very plausible and I’m agreeing that they are right, but that County has bad software and an incompetent Elections Supervisor.
For the sanctity of the Vote, why can’t Ms. Walker say something other than express surprise at the total? huh?
She’s fed the disinformation by her initial and only response to a TV reporter, to a question by the NBC tv station about HER REPORT.
From all indications I saw/read/heard with early voting and Election Day turn out, it was way up over 2008. I just don’t see how the DC 0Care protest, the 2010 enthusiasm and the Chic Fil A Day turn outs mysteriously dissipated on Election Day. I don’t think it did.
I went through Orange County, their software thank goodness and their site, is as user friendly as Broward.
Their data is by Ballots cast and it doesn’t report like St. Lucie. (yes after the first two pages of the St. Lucie report, it breaks down into 70-90% mostly of turnout)
The turnout was (average) just shy of 70%, for Orange.
No report at their official elections site had the bizarre counting of “cards”. They are counted as ballots (1 for each voter), despite the three pages.
St. Lucie County needs a redo of their Elections Site. I found no such disinformation at any other official County Elections website in Florida. It’s their fault for bad reporting to the public via their site.
I am not saying that there is not at least incompetence here and I am not saying that there is not fraud, I am just saying the 141% is not it. Other counties got the software settings right so that they didn’t do this bogus report. She should be suspended, Gertrude Walker St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections, until an investigation is completed and a determination made.
The numbers still don’t add up, even with that explanation - if I’m understanding correctly. This says total number of cards cast was 247,713, resulting in 123,591 total votes (presumably in the Presidential election, since that’s what is being tabulated). If every ballot had 2 cards cast, that would be 123,856.5 ballots. (One ballot didn’t have both sides counted, which is problematic.)
There were 397 “blank voted” (undervotes, presumably, where there was no Presidential vote.) That would lower the number of Presidential votes to 123,459. There were 43 “overvoted” (where more than one Presidential candidate was chosen so those votes would be disqualified). That would lower the number of Presidential votes to 123,416. That doesn’t match the claim that there was a total of 123,591 Presidential votes.
Show me not only where it is explained that “cards cast” means how many pages were scanned, but also how these numbers would make sense if audited.
Agree, heartily! Suspended without pay! I’m sure they get plenty of money for the Elections Dept.
See my previous post. The numbers don’t add up even with that explanation.
It’s not explained anywhere but here. I can’t find an official statement other than Ms. Walker interviewed by NBC affiliate on the 7th being shocked at the numbers on the % turnout.
They were questioning her on the numbers and they serve that area. Since she left it on the site as is, she deserves scrutiny. If the NBC affiliate can question the info and why it reads the way it does and get no answer, why can’t we question her first two pages, without being ridiculed?
Thanks again for all your hard work Butter! You’ve done a lot.
First GUY in on Townhall comments got it right but everyones taking a ride it seems to vent on the election.
I tired to email Heather Ginsberg but I cant near lock-up .but its Saturday night afterall and shes probably drinking.
HUFPO and DU are going to have a field day. Get this post down or change title or do something.
AlexanderBezukladnikov Wrote: 0 minutes ago (8:45 PM)
What happened was that voter turnout is normally calculated by the number of ballot cards cast by the number of registered voters. Since there were so many amendments up for vote in Florida this year, the ballot was two sheets long. So now St. Lucie’s report shows voter turnouts that are double what the actual number is. So they counted sheets, not voters, a clerical issue not a conspiracy. If the reporter here had bothered to read page 3, they could see that the number of votes in the presidential race is around a 70% turnout rate.
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I did see your explanation and though I have not gone through it step by step against what is posted I trust you are right. I didn’t say there weren’t inconsistencies just that there is an explanation for the 141%. Now why was she so incompetent to allow that to happen? That definately means there should be an investigation and as I said before a Suspension until it is complete with valid counts being demonstable.
See my last post. For instance, how do you get an odd number of cards cast in your scenario? And why does subtracting the overvotes (disqualified Presidential votes) and undervotes (no Presidential vote) result in less Presidential votes (using your method) than the number of Presidential votes they say were cast?
Ah, the Hawaii state registrar has now legally confirmed that you were wrong about the “birther” stuff, now that they’ve confirmed that Obama’s HI BC is not legally valid.
And now I’m pointing out that these numbers still don’t add up even using your explanation. Unless you’ve got a way to reconcile the discrepancies caused by your theory, I’ll presume that attention to detail is not your strong suit. And that’s the kindest explanation.
I agree with that both the card/141% turnout thing is bad info.
I love how we’re only concerned with voter fraud if it hits over 100%...thats why 99% turnout is ok
This is most likely plausible. But other than fellow Freepers, where is this written as the reason?
That’s all I want to know. (that and why the Elections Chief doesn’t seem to know what her report says)