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Power plants and oil refineries will have to purchase these carbon credits. Do you think they will absorb these increased costs of production or pass them on to the consumer? Rhetorical question.
1 posted on 11/10/2012 4:42:08 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Just in case California left any possible ability for businesses to succeed.

Death blow.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 4:45:14 PM PST by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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The rich one-percenters who run and manage those stinkin' capitalist companies who make unconscionable profits at the expense of the proletariat better dig deep into their one-percent wallets and pay up for fouling our air. What do you mean the consumer must bear the cost? Are you nuts?

(jk, in case you're wondering)

3 posted on 11/10/2012 4:47:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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My question is this. How much longer before CA asks for a bankruptcy? Because I figure it could be in as little as three to four years. Again, when one looks at the deficits, you don’t see a good picture. Nationally, the debt and interest alone have just recently exceeded our defense spending. This is sick.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/payments-interest-exceed-defense-spending-125-billion_657230.html


6 posted on 11/10/2012 4:52:52 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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How many allowances does China have to buy for its coal plants which send smoke all the way to California?


8 posted on 11/10/2012 4:54:32 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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California will become the first state to begin requiring a broad range of businesses to reduce their greenhouse gas pollution outlawing business. Fixed it.
9 posted on 11/10/2012 4:54:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Newsbytes: Green Energy Policy Threatening Europe’s Industrial Base

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Leading European companies announced job losses totalling more than 10,000 on Wednesday, underlining the scale of problems facing the continent’s manufacturers. Vestas, the world’s largest wind turbine manufacturer, said 2,000 jobs would be cut after it posted an almost doubling of pre-tax losses in the face of falling prices and fierce competition from China. The Vestas cuts underline the crisis in the renewable energy sector and will reduce its workforce to 16,000 by the end of 2013 from nearly 23,000 just a year ago. –The Guardian, 8 November 2012

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Britain will need to invest 330 billion pounds in its energy sector, excluding networks, by 2030 and return its economy to growth to meet carbon emissions reduction targets, the London School of Economics said in a report on Thursday. The investments are needed to build new power plants, retrofit existing ones with carbon-reduction technology and to limit energy demand. –Reuters, 8 November 2012

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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/11/08/newsbytes-green-energy-policy-threatening-europes-industrial-base/

[but Kalifornia can impose a crazy cap’n-trade scheme and it will only produce more Skittles out of the arse of the Unicorns as they fly over the rainbow with the pot of gold on each end.]


11 posted on 11/10/2012 4:56:43 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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In just a few short years we have all become wholly owned subsidiaries of the health insurance and fraudulent green industries. First it was a pulse, now it’s the act of exhaling.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 4:57:12 PM PST by SpaceBar
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The state sets an overall "cap"... The quote is really all you need to know. They can now tax anything, anytime and anywhere.
14 posted on 11/10/2012 5:03:22 PM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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This dope thinks it’s a good thing!! And Hurricane Sandy had absolutely zero to do with global warming or whatever they call it this year.


16 posted on 11/10/2012 5:08:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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More business’s will be leaving Kalifornia.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 5:10:00 PM PST by Venturer
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Wonder how much cash will flow from the worker bees to the drones (or those folks who are donating to the Donkey Party)?

Scamsters..... this is the honey-pot.

18 posted on 11/10/2012 5:13:09 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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Power plants and oil refineries will have to purchase these carbon credits. Do you think they will absorb these increased costs of production or pass them on to the consumer? Rhetorical question.


Refiners and gas stations make 10-25 cents per gallon on a product that costs $3.50 Their margins can’t change if they want to stay in business so they will have to pass the costs on to the public. This will result in lower sales volumes which means that they will have to also increase their margins on top of the added carbon tax.


20 posted on 11/10/2012 5:17:45 PM PST by rdcbn
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Also expect $250 a yard for concrete


22 posted on 11/10/2012 6:06:23 PM PST by twistedwrench
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When these idiots come up with this stuff and try to defend it, I ask them one simple question. If gas goes to $25 a gallon, who is it going to hurt most ... you or Al Gore, Buffett, Clintons, etc.?


23 posted on 11/10/2012 6:48:33 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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How long before home owners have to buy pollution allowances?
24 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:24 PM PST by Isabel2010
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What global warming!?

If you repeat a lie often enough...

I would be more concerned about a catastrophic earthquake, or even an asteroid hitting California, before I would worry about global warming, man-made or natural. Maybe they could start a shake and bake tax scheme, and cover both earthquakes and global warming together.

God help those stuck behind the Tinsel Curtain.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 8:25:34 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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Who cares? I got me an Obama Phone.
26 posted on 11/10/2012 8:53:17 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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