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Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States...
White House Petitions ^ | 11-07-12 | Michael E, Slidell LA

Posted on 11/10/2012 8:56:44 PM PST by AlmaKing

Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

"...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: louisiana; statesrights
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To: AlmaKing

As much as I admire the this effort... it is premature.
Obamacare has yet to be fully enacted so nobody has yet to be actually harmed. Nobody’s social security checks have
gone dry. The Government has not YET gone broke.

However, if we go over the cliff and taxes go up, and the
economy slides back into a deeper recession, we could start
to see a slow motion unraveling of societal order or some
outright SHTF riots. IF the Government had a real crisis of
liquidity and had to start picking who to pay and not pay..
ALL bets are off. As Travis McGee has said, this will all
start when the EBT cards don’t worky worky any more.

If that occurs. This petition might be replaced by a million
man march on Washington. And the marchers will be carrying
items much more useful than little signs and sack lunches.


21 posted on 11/10/2012 10:01:24 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: prisoner6

“Leaving the union sounds attractive but it doesn’t make sense with the exception of large states with ports.”

Ever hear of New Orleans?


22 posted on 11/10/2012 10:06:14 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: AlmaKing

I like the secession idea. If they peacefully choose to secede, refuse to let IRS and FBI into their territory without permission what is the Federal government going to do? This is not 1860, and even there it was hellish fighting which today’ society would not stomach. Plus much of the Army is made up of White southerners who might refuse to take up arms against their hometowns.


23 posted on 11/10/2012 10:08:45 PM PST by freedomrings69
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To: prisoner6

“An older fellow I work with grew up in Montana in the 30’s and 40’s, and has written many stories about it.”

My father lived in Missoula in the thirties and when he was 16, with the help of his family and a family friend, lied about his age and joined the Navy. The family couldn’t afford all the kids, but they did the best they could. Of course, the rest of the boys were in the service soon...but he grew up hunting and fishing for food and poor as hell in Missoula. Stayed in the Navy for 27 years, retired a Master Chief when JFK sent the “advisers” to Viet Nam. Never went back to Montana. Used to laugh that he never saw the ocean until he arrived in Port in San Diego and then was never more than a mile or so from it the rest of his life.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 10:09:00 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

we are moving toward one party socialism and poverty. We don’t need to wait until it is too late.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 10:11:16 PM PST by freedomrings69
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To: AlmaKing

“So, a Louisiana resident (maybe) created this petition on the whitehouse.gov site to request that LA separate peacefully from the US.”

It sure would be easy if Texas went with them...before it’s too late for them. I’d go. But the secession would have to be complete..scare the ‘rats out.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 10:11:51 PM PST by jessduntno ("Socialism only works...in Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they have it." - RR)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
The Government has not YET gone broke.

Not Broke!? With a $16 Trillion debt?
Hell, according to this it already is at a net worth of -$68 trillion.
And this doesn't paint a good picture either.

27 posted on 11/10/2012 10:16:10 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AlmaKing

Whats wrong with allowing “clusters” of states to determine
their own participation in Obamacare?

The CA,OR,WA,NV cluster would have it. The northeast cluster of blue states would have it. The Midwest WI,MN,IA,IL,OH,MI
blue state cluster would have it.

But, all the rest would not. If you don’t like whats offered
in your cluster, then you have to go to another.

Let those lib utopias pay for it if they want it.


28 posted on 11/10/2012 10:19:12 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: WhiskeyX

You’ve got it backwards.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 10:22:21 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Not Broke!? With a $16 Trillion debt?
Hell, according to this it already is at a net worth of -$68 trillion.
And this doesn’t paint a good picture either”
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Exactly... It always amazes me when people disregard the
idea that the Federal Government could go broke. I can
GUARANTEE you that the Government doesn’t consider it not
possible. They are war gaming it right now!

But I’m just a “sky is falling” alarmist..... you know.


30 posted on 11/10/2012 10:24:31 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: AlmaKing

From the source:”we petition the obama administration to:Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”

1. As far as I know, the Obama administration has no authority to “grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America government”, peacefully or otherwise.

2. I don’t see why Louisiana would need to create its own NEW government, unless they want to establish a monarchy or go communist or something.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 10:25:18 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: HMS Surprise; WhiskeyX

Tell it to Judge Napolitano

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Revolution is Duty of the People

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af5KJ2aD8F0


32 posted on 11/10/2012 10:26:19 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: freedomrings69

“I like the secession idea. If they peacefully choose to secede, refuse to let IRS and FBI into their territory without permission what is the Federal government going to do? This is not 1860, and even there it was hellish fighting which today’ society would not stomach. Plus much of the Army is made up of White southerners who might refuse to take up arms against their hometowns”
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What if the 100 million (or whatever) Romney voters all quit
their jobs on the same day, go home and sit. All that
payroll deduction would stop. I think it would bring down
the Government. It’s like a massive go Galt, all at once.
You can’t foreclose and evict that many houses with people
resisting. It would be logistically impossible.

Another tactic would be for all Romney voters to go to the bank and withdraw all funds immediately. THAT would be some nice chaos and completely non-violent.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 10:37:57 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (I am become Barry... destroyer of wealth)
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To: Kartographer

bookmark


34 posted on 11/10/2012 11:32:52 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: KrisKrinkle

how can it be part of no government? It needs some kind of government. Or maybe i don’t understand your point?


35 posted on 11/10/2012 11:46:07 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: HMS Surprise

United States of America. Articles of Confederation...ARTICLE XIII.
Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.

If you want to abandon your U.S.citizenship, you are perfectly free to do so. You simply do not have the right to engage in treason and help the enemies of the United States divide and conquer the United States for the purpose of destroying the extinguishing the republican form of government the U.S. Constitution mandated to confer the blessings of liberty and freedom espoused in the Declaration of Independence.You cannot and do not honor the Declaration of Independence by inciting the abandonment and destruction of the Republic and Consitution it created to defend those values. You honor the Declaration of Independence y lawfully defending the Constitution and its rule of law under the Republican form of government as the Constitution, Articles of Confederation, and Constitution collectively defined for the Republic.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 3:22:30 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Kirkwood

Not a chance. You have no legal or moral right to advocate the alienation of U.S. Citizens, their territories, their properties, their Constitution, their families, or their Republic without their mutual consent. Advocating as much is treason against your fellow Citizens and an encroachment upon their measure of sovereignty in the Republic. Given the boasts of many prominent Communists in Russia and elsewhare during the past decades that they would succeed in bringing about civil war and the disunion of the United States, your talk of secession also amounts to aiding and abetting a foreign enemy to overthrow the Constitutional government of the United States.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 3:31:33 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: AlmaKing

If LA, TX, or any other conservative state secedes, I will move there and create jobs there. Otherwise, I will sit at home, retired, as my only economic activity.


38 posted on 11/11/2012 3:39:19 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: max americana
"I was born is Saskatchewan Kanada. Atlantic winters there make the New England winters look like Florida." Atlantic winters in Saskatchewan??!!
39 posted on 11/11/2012 5:10:16 AM PST by Dartman
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To: Kartographer

Then do your duty, persuade fellow citizens, remove corrupt judges, prosecute, impeach, and restore the Republic.


40 posted on 11/11/2012 5:12:15 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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