Skip to comments.Stop talking about the Hispanics for a moment — what about Asian-Americans?
Posted on 11/11/2012 6:21:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Apart from some fatuous self-congratulation from Asian-American liberals, there has been very little discussion of the 73-26 Asian-American margin of support for President Obama in last Tuesday’s election. That’s slightly smaller than the highest estimate of Latino support for Obama, at 75-23. Asian-Americans are a small minority now but their numbers are growing rapidly.
Most conservatives consider Asian-Americans poster-children for the American model of self-motivated success. The facts bear this out. The Pew Research Center reported last July:
Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States. They are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place more value than other Americans do on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success…
Asians recently passed Hispanics as the largest group of new immigrants to the United States. The educational credentials of these recent arrivals are striking. More than six-in-ten (61%) adults ages 25 to 64 who have come from Asia in recent years have at least a bachelors degree. This is double the share among recent non-Asian arrivals, and almost surely makes the recent Asian arrivals the most highly educated cohort of immigrants in U.S. history.
Compared with the educational attainment of the population in their country of origin, recent Asian immigrants also stand out as a select group. For example, about 27% of adults ages 25 to 64 in South Korea and 25% in Japan have a bachelors degree or more.2In contrast, nearly 70% of comparably aged recent immigrants from these two countries have at least a bachelors degree.
Asian-American kids occupy nearly three-quarters of the places at New York City’s exam-based high schools (including Bronx Science and Stuyvesant) although they comprise less than 12% of the student population. The main threat to the upward striving of working-class immigrant kids who study hard to get into top schools is the NAACP. The New York Times reported Oct. 15:
NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund and other groups filed a racial bias complaint with the United States Education Department. They charge that reliance on a single test for determining who gets into Bronx Science and seven other specialized high schools discriminates against young African-Americans and Latinos. Other factors, like student grades, need to be considered as well, they say.
Asians “also stand out for their strong emphasis on family,” the Pew study reported. “More than half (54%) say that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in life; just 34% of all American adults agree. Two-thirds of Asian-American adults (67%) say that being a good parent is one of the most important things in life; just 50% of all adults agree.”
If the Republican Party can’t win the support of the immigrant group with the strongest family values and the most success in achieving the American dream, what can it say to the Hispanics, the immigrant group with the least success in achieving the American dream?
I do not mean to be glib. The issue requires study. But I will venture a guess: Asian-Americans, like any other immigrant group, come here with the hope of bringing family members with them. Tough enforcement of immigration laws makes life as hard for them as it does for any other immigrant group, and frustrates their hope of reuniting families in America. The result of our present immigration laws is that we fail to keep out the illegals we don’t want, and make it harder to absorb the skilled and energetic immigrants we do want. There will be endless discussion during the next few months of Romney’s mistake in moving to the right of Rick Perry on immigration during the Republican primaries, and I will leave the detailed parsing to the professionals. I hope the professionals talk to Asian-Americans first.
America is unlikely to tolerate ethnic quotas (Asians in, Hispanics out). There are plenty of bright Hispanics as well (with 25% unemployment in Spain, German firms are recruiting Spanish engineers to fill the 30,000 job openings for engineers in Germany). But there is a sensible way to encourage the kind of immigration that boosts economic growth and discourage the kind of immigration that impedes economic growth.
The distinguished Canadian economist Prof. Reuven Brenner of McGill University wrote two years ago in First Things magazine:
Without innovation, America faces prolonged stagnation. The outlook seems bleak. Between 1988 and 1998, manufacturing productive growth rose from less than 2 percent to more than 5 percent per annum. By 2008, it had fallen back to the 2 percent range as the great wave of innovation abated. This outcome is not inevitable, however. America has been obtaining a disproportionate flow of skilled innovators by attracting these vital few to its shores. Without their contribution, America may neither sustain the economic growth required to absorb the penurious many nor raise their standards of living. The impact of the vital few does trickle down…
The problem lies in policy. American sentiment toward immigrants has swung from boomtown hospitality to churlish xenophobia in the course of the present recession…
It is hard to blame opponents of immigration. Earlier this year, the Pew Hispanic Center reported that Californias estimated 2.7 million illegal residents7 percent of the states populationadd $4 billion to $6 billion in costs. Cutting off state payments for the American-born children of immigrants supposedly would save about $640 million a year. By similar estimates, Arizonas illegal immigrant population is costing the states taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year. Whether these estimates are exact or only in the ballpark, it is clear that poor migrants drain state finances under the present institutional and regulatory landscape, and the drain is substantial.
…The least the United States can do is try, explicitly, to attract the vital few to its shores and, at the same time, speed up the domestic production of talent.
…Congress should first increase visas for skilled immigrantsthose who would invest in their own entrepreneurial ventures in the United States in particular. Congress also should facilitate a temporary worker program, but without instantaneously bestowing on those workers the many monetary government benefits for which Americas already taxpaying citizens are eligible. For immigrants in the United States who do not have proper documentation but who have built up equity in this country, opportunities should be provided to obtain legalization if they can demonstrate good moral character. Such an earned legalization should be achievable and verifiable in an accountable manner.
As Prof. Brenner observes, immigrants have made a disproportionate contribution to American economic growth in recent years. “At the height of the last tech boom in 1999, Chinese and Indian engineers were at the helm of 24 percent of the technology companies started in Silicon Valley,” he writes, adding:
In 25.3 percent of [high-tech and engineering] companies, at least one key founder was foreign-born.
Of all immigrant-founded companies, 26 percent had Indian founders; 7 percent had founders of British and Chinese origin; 6 percent had founders from Taiwan; Japanese and German founders each led 5 percent; 4 percent had founders from Israel; 3 percent had founders from Canada; and 2.5 percent had founders from Iran.
In Massachusetts the single largest founding group was Israelis, at 17 percent.
Indian entrepreneurs dominated in New Jersey, leading 47 percent of all immigrant-founded start-ups.
Immigrants also represented 24.2 percent of international patent applications filed from the United States in 2006. Chinese filed the largest number of patents, followed by Indians, Canadians, and British.
If we Republicans can’t persuade our most successful, entrepreneurial, family-oriented citizens to support us, we won’t be in business much longer.
Asian Americans are supposed to be smart.
There goes that theory.
I am Norweigan American, yeah, what about us whities?
RE: Asian Americans are supposed to be smart.
Having a high IQ does not necessarily equate to being WISE.
The Bible does distinguish between wisdom and intelligence.
There are many FOOLISH intelligent people out there.
RE: I am Norweigan American, yeah, what about us whities?
1) Norwegian Americans are welcome to immigrate, but they aren’t.
20 How about having more children?
But...but...what about Euro-Americans? (I now refuse to check the “white” box).
What about me? I’m an American, so I guess I don’t count.
OMG! Stop talking about the minority and start talking about how the STOP the STUPID PARTY foisting a rino on the electorate! rinos are losers.
They should be conservative. I thought for the most part that US asians were...
Well if tis the muslim demographics controlling this then Alquida will win the terror war. we are doomed.
We can run the next Hiram Fong.
Whites don't vote as an ethnic group.
They love the idea of Santa Claus and untaxed income. Among Asians the Democrat party is the party of the freebie. No need to change to any other party.
Maybe we should've ran Akin or Mourdock? They did so well capturing senate seats.
Have universities started curbing the intake of Norwegian Americans like they currently do to Asian-Americans (Chinese/Indian/Korean etc.)?
1) Chinese don’t vote-they don’t like jury duty.
2) Feeleepeenos are like Mexicans-poor and they like freebees.
“They should be conservative. I thought for the most part that US asians were...”
The several families that I know well, are all conservative. As for their American-educated kids? Don’t really know,,,,,,,,, The gals are the best! They scoff at American womyn who are in love with obama.
Large Asian communities here in NE Los Angeles - came over as Hong Kong went back to China. I hear from a student that most of his classmates (Middle School) voted for O. That has to be a good % of Asians!
“Asian Americans are supposed to be smart.”
They are not only smart but work hard, have a strong respect for education and a strong discipline in applying themselves to whatever task the embark.
Jewish-Americans are supposed to be smart.
They are not only smart but work hard, have a strong respect for education and a strong discipline in applying themselves to whatever task the embark.
The question is: “Why aren’t they voting for the Republicans/Conservatives who promote meritocracy, hard work, intelligence?”
Well, when the prevailing attitude is
Don’t worry about spending money on the Blacks, they won’t vote for us anyway...after all they are only 10% of the population.
Don’t worry about spending money on the Hispanics, they won’t vote for us anyway...after all they are only 10% of the population.
Don’t worry about spending money on the Asians, they won’t vote for us anyway...after all they are only 10% of the population.
Don’t worry about spending money on the Gays, they won’t vote for us anyway...after all they are only 10% of the population.
Don’t worry about spending money on the Poor White Trash, they won’t vote for us anyway...after all they are only 10% of the populations...
ETC ETC ETC....
Add that to the CORE that would vote for a complete schmuck such as BO, Gore, Kerry and you are sitting on the sidelines.
That said-- the predisposition to give Hussein 85% of their support.... point taken.
How Hispanics, Asians vote- none of that matters if we tolerate massive voter fraud.
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Barack Obama voter fraud 2012
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Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!
Fraud: Some told they already voted, others brag about voting multiple times
Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law
Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama
[Sounds like those Black Panthers who kicked out the GOP observers and stood guard at the polling stations were not just trying to intimidate voters! They were hiding something!]
Voter Fraud Watch: Two Election Judges Replaced After Illegal Activity in Ohio - Fox News Insider
Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6
Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus
via @BeachCity55 on Twitter: Senior parents in Florida told not to put their ballots through their reader but in a box. Senior votes in FL not counted?
Data Points To A Powerful Romney Campaign And Yet
You have to vote for Dems NYC poll worker tells GOP Senate candidate #IllegalElectioneering
At least 70,000 report voting problems, mostly in swing states
Plane crash destroys Afghanistan US military ballots, most of which are for Mitt Romney
Obamas pattern of disenfranchisement of the military vote
Another Stolen Election? Election data HIGHLY suspicious AND the George Soros Secretary of State Project http://goo.gl/y1ybR
Yes, this is the same George Soros who owns part of the company in Spain Obama outsourced parts of the election to and who has been banned from Hungary because he tampered with elections there.
We will continue to add updates! Please check back often!
From Lynn Victory on Facebook:
Thanks for what you are doing. My son is friends with a guy in the Romney campaign who has actually been on since 2008. He is not high up, but said that the O campaign bought high tech equipment to target county by county where the votes were needed in battle-ground states, so that they could bus in the needed votes. The guy would not say fraud, but that is fraud.
Also this referral from Lynn:
White House Insider on Obama Steal the Votes Strategy (Just Before the Election)
these Obama boys
they took it to a whole other level. Votes, donations
its a lot more Putin than it is Clinton. Pay to play
this country never seen it at this level.
Voter fraud witnessed in Wisconsin by one of Mitts ORCA observers:
via Lori Patriot on Facebook:
52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far
VIDEO: Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
In 2008, John McCain Ignored Vote Fraud to Avoid Civil Unrest
Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election
Massive voter fraud discovered in April
Is Voter Fraud Being Committed in Ohio? (Early Voting)
Pundit Press: What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket
Did this Dirty Trick Get Obama Re-Elected?
Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States
Could we fix an election? Sure, they would never know it.
Thousands of votes from our military troops uncounted or missing
Defense Department cant put soldiers, ballots together
Voter fraud in Pennsylvania - Black Panthers return, GOP inspectors thrown out
Ohio fraudulent voter registration cards
Ohio Residents Told They Already Voted When They Showed Up At the Polls Tuesday
Poll Worker Puts Glendale Precincts Ballots on Car, Drives Away
Referenced above, but with more information:
Two Ohio Election Judges Removed for Allowing Unregistered Voters to Cast Ballots
Democrat Admits Hes Voted FOUR Times Already
Boston reports 129% voter turnout, 79% for Obama; 74% for Elizabeth Warren
This one could be just a calibration issue, but not necessarily based on the programers testimony in the next link:
Voting machine swaps Romney for Obama
Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting
VIDEO: Possible voter fraud in Pennsylvania or just voting machine malfunction?
Voter Fraud Complaint Filed against Florida Democrats
Ballot Re-writers Update from Allen Westhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=299196730187117&set=a.198312883608836.34844.198021666971291&type=1&theater
Half the Democratic ground game is voter turnout. The other half is voter fraud.
Voter Fraud: Obama Won 108% of Registered Voters in Wood County, Ohio
Video: Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out on Voter Fraud
BREAKING: St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County
Between St. Lucie and Broward Counties, we have a pretty good idea what happened in Florida. Normal voting is what, 50% turnout? It doesnt take many counties like this to affect an entire state by multiple percentage points.
All of these numbers between 99% (Pennsylvania) and 141.1% (Florida) turnout in dozens of counties in swing states makes me think Team Obama was panicking a lot just before the election, with Mitt up by 7% in certain early voting polls.
They overcompensated so much the fraud is impossible to hide. I think they know it, which may be one reason Axelrod is stepping down. (Sound familiar Petraeus and Benghazi?)
As I told someone earlier today, this is who Obama is. This is who Chicago (the machine) is.
Do we really want this to be who America is?
Is this how we will define our elections from 2008 on? As Mitt says, America can do better.
We must do better. We cant let the message be out there that America will let this fraud go.
Want to do something about all of this? Tiffany Banks and Darin Southam forwarded me a list of people you can contact who are in the November 9, 2012 3:12 PM comment below.
Did you know voters can request a recount in certain states? (Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Wisconsin!) Take a look at the comment by @RightonMainSt dated November 9, 2012 11:45 PM below for instructions! Mitt will have to ask in Colorado himself. (Yes, you Mitt!)
It has also been suggested that we ask Republican Secretaries of State NOT to certify the election until all questions about voter fraud are abated.
Some people think this may provoke a crisis, but it cant be worse than the one we are looking at for the next four years and the impact on generations to come!
America NEEDS Mitt, and Mitt won fair and square. This was not a ballot stuffing competition but an election. Lets make sure its counted that way!
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VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers
VIDEO- Michael Savage: How Obama fixed the 2012 election:
VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April:
Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud;
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We can't wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.
We must act NOW.
Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.
We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....
Agree, based on the comments on many blogs: why wasn’t it 100% for Obama? Must be some of them just like to be called muzzies, ragheads, whatever.
I have my nails done at a typical Vietnamese owned salon. On my last appt, which was on election day, a young man did my nails. He bravely started talking politics to me, said he was a Christian and would have to vote for Romney. (I didn’t get if he was a registered voter or not). He also said he lived in a low-income neighborhood and couldn’t understand why some of the minorities that also lived there didn’t work. He said they all appeared strong and able-bodied, why weren’t they working? We had a nice talk and he spoke pretty clear english, much better than most of the salon employees. I left him a sizeable tip.
well does that mean that asians are voting for Obama to support communism?
well does that mean that asians are voting for Obama to support communism? Or is this all about race?
Asians, another Dem manufactured victim group, are Democrats because the Dem Party has made itself the party of immigrants and minorities. It is almost tribal and has less to do with economics and self-interest than it has to do with tribal politics in a society that trumpets multiculturalism and diversity.
Norwegian-Americans broke huge for Obama. I live in a part of the country (western Wisconsin and SE Minnesota, NE Iowa, NW Illinois) with large populations of Norwegian-Americans. I have them for in-laws. If you look at a map of the counties in the four state area that are connected, it's solid blue. A writer for the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel noticed that as well. The conclusion: Norwegian-Americans love socialism. Sorry to break the news, I'm part (1%) Norwegian as well.
When your goal is to take alter demographics in order to diminish the voting impact of another group - that is racist, and this is precisely what has been happening. Thank Ted Kennedy.
At this point, IMHO, I think our side (and I don’t mean just whites, but those who believe in classic American principles) needs to start having as many babies as possible. Don’t worry too much about paying for them. The left doesn’t. We should also consider adopting. Obviously I would only suggest this if the children are going to be your focus, and they will be given all the love they deserve.
I also think those of us who run businesses that use people from abroad should direct their hiring to those who are more likely to aspire to the America we love.
Why are we talking about Asian-Americans and utilizing the term “Asian” (a diverse continent which is nearly 40% Caucasian (India, Pakistan, Middle East, Eastern Russia, Ukraine etc.)) in place of Oriental (Korean, Chinese, Japanese etc.)?
I bet the numbers would be much different if the groups were segregated as they should be.
No group is going to vote conservative, no matter how supposedly conservative their personal values, as long as there exists a racial spoils system in this country for every racial group except whites.
Yes. Successful white liberals are also fairly conservative in their personal lives (see “Coming Apart:The State Of White America, 1960-2010) but they vote rat.
Don’t worry about standing on principle, who needs two parties anyway?
I wish Mitt hadn’t conceded so soon. Those who take an oath to uphold our laws are crooks who belong in prison.
True, and it is also leading to a one-party system when both sides jettison principle to pander for votes. We are already headed there with such groups as “Log Cabin Republicans” and the repeated push by certain Republicans to pander yet more for the hispanic vote.
Looking at the big picture, I fail to see how Tuesday's elections were anything less than a disaster for conservatism. Sure, we won a few races and ballots here and there but as a whole, Tuesday was a net loss for conservatives and conservative values.
These guys (Akin/Mourdock) were definitely flawed candidates. Heck, in Missouri, Obama lost by 10 points and the state legislature became a supermajority for the R’s...and Akin lost by 10. Obama also got crushed in Indiana and Mourdock got beat as well.
As far as Scott Brown goes, well, he lost in a state that Obama WON by like 30 points, so it should come as no surprise. Comparing the Brown loss to Akin/Mourdock is apples to oranges.
One thing the Democrats do much better than Republicans is unify. I don’t see near the vitriol for the moderate Dems from the liberal Dems like I see for moderate R’s from conservative R’s.
“Whites aren’t even supposed to recognise that we are an ethnic group”
Correct. Ethnic now means “nonwhite”.
It looked like to me that every where you looked, they were chomping at the bit to throw in the towel.
I'd be curious to know the dates their visas were stamped and not at all surprised if these dates were during the Bush Administration while he was rolling out the red carpet to unskilled African immigrants.
It would be considered “ethnic cleansing” if whites were immigrating in overwhelming numbers to any black, brown, or yellow nation and race-replacing the inhabitants. The UN would be calling for measures to stop it. Only in white nations is race-replacement—”ethnic cleansing”—acceptable, even desirable.
Sounds to me like you have a choice to make. Vote democrat or lose because us filthy conservatives aren’t going away.
Moderates, nothing but lying, manipulative bottom feeding scum.
You must never have lurked at DU. There are constant calls for the purging of the “centrists” from the party. The DNC is a villian to the “progressives”.
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