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Senators restart talks on U.S. immigration reform plan (More "freebies" to illegals)
reuters ^ | 11/11/2012 | Will Dunham

Posted on 11/11/2012 7:51:42 AM PST by tobyhill

Two key U.S. senators are restarting bipartisan talks on U.S. immigration reform that will include a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country, Senator Charles Schumer said on Sunday.

Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press," the Democrat Schumer said he has spoken with Republican Senator Lindsey Graham and they have agreed to resume talks that broke off two years ago.

"And I think we have a darned good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. The Republican Party has learned that being ... anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. And they know it," Schumer said.

President Barack Obama, re-elected last week with overwhelming support from Hispanic voters, in 2010 called the proposal unveiled by Graham and Schumer a "promising framework" on immigration reform. But the plan never got off the ground.

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1 posted on 11/11/2012 7:51:49 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
' The Republican Party has learned that being ... anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. And they know it," Schumer said. '

Completely absurd. The Republicans have followed the Dems in creating the most immigrant friendly country that the world has ever existed. So friendly that it harms native born citizens.

Amnesty does not nor will it solve anything.

2 posted on 11/11/2012 7:56:03 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: tobyhill

The swelling legal Latino population, primarily due to legal immigration and anchor babies coming of age to vote and bring forth their own offspring, will slowly kill the the republican party.

Amnesty will rapidly kill the republican party.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 7:58:07 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Theoria

The Rats have successfully gained another voting block, the same way they did with the blacks, except for this time it will continually regenerate itself, unlike blacks from Africa. This is the death of the GOP, plain and simple.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 8:02:03 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: umgud

It all originated from illegal immigration but for every illegal having a baby here, there becomes one more Government Dependent, Democrat voter. With 12+ million here right now having babies born in our hospitals at taxpayer’s expense it is a cycle that will not end well for our country.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 8:06:10 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

I think this will make unemployment for blacks much worse.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 8:06:53 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: tobyhill

I’ve already said I’m going to be the first in line to primary both of my Georgia Senators. As the premier back-sliding Senators of the south, I’m more than certain that both will be on this effing bandwagon.

I’m going to do everything in my power they are removed. Even if I have to vote for a damned Democrat who is against polluting this country with worthless illegals.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 8:09:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Theoria

Schumer imagines hispanics will vote for him ~ apparently he’s unaware that they were still burning Jews at the stake barely more than a century ago.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 8:11:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Qwackertoo

Most blacks don’t want employment, they want Government handouts at taxpayer’s expense.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 8:13:11 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: umgud
Sorry, the Republican party has a far lower death rate and tends to not kill off their young to the degree found among Democrats.

The hispanic migrants also have some real limits to how many kids they can have in a country that has winter.

10 posted on 11/11/2012 8:13:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: tobyhill

Just make sure that anyone receiving amnesty DOES NOT GAIN THE RIGHT TO VOTE for 25 years, and see how supportive the Dem’s are about “immigration reform”....

Liberal policies are built upon VOTE BUYING SCHEMES!


11 posted on 11/11/2012 8:16:08 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

The problem is and has been that illegals have babies here, they automatically become US Citizens and have steadily become Government Dependent, Democrat Voters. To them, hard work is no longer a criteria for success, it’s “give me what I want, I earned it for merely being here”.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 8:20:36 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Qwackertoo

“I think this will make unemployment for blacks much worse.”

Will they or their overseers on the progressive plantation care?


13 posted on 11/11/2012 8:21:38 AM PST by Soul of the South
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To: muawiyah

He’s a democrat, so yes, they will (and already do) vote for him.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 8:26:15 AM PST by Aetius
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To: muawiyah

He’s a democrat, so yes, they will (and already do) vote for him.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 8:26:20 AM PST by Aetius
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To: umgud
"Amnesty will rapidly kill the republican party."

Flatlined already. Death by 'strategery." They've made it abundantly clear, their overriding obsession is their desire to remain in the country club. Concerned about amnesty? Wait 'till you see how they respond when Sen. Feinstein reintroduces her AWB. "Turn them all in, Mr. and Mrs. America." The GOP is dead to me. I will never vote Republican again. Ever.
16 posted on 11/11/2012 8:28:17 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Soul of the South

Nope, they won’t care. But hopefully the Hispanics who are hardworking will take the opportunity given to them and rise and eventually prosper. Or so it seems. Just like Newt said with the 99 weeks of unemployment that could have been spent pursuing an assoc. degree or technical degree instead of sitting on their butts.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 8:30:55 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: tobyhill
The Rats have successfully gained another voting block, the same way they did with the blacks, except for this time it will continually regenerate itself, unlike blacks from Africa.

I wonder if the blacks realize they are being replaced, and will soon be left to whither on the vine?

18 posted on 11/11/2012 8:33:50 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: tobyhill

And what do you think the prospects are for a “send them all home” approach?

Do you see anybody lining up to support some “self-deportation” policy?

Here’s a fun fact for you:

The U.S. economy is causing LEGAL immigrants to return home.
The illegals competing for wages are displacing the Legals!


19 posted on 11/11/2012 8:36:10 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: tobyhill

One out of five people on welfare are Americans.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 8:42:35 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: tobyhill

Free Shit for Everyone!


21 posted on 11/11/2012 8:45:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: umgud

The more people on the dole the better it is for them to remain in power, stupid republicans, stupid people, voter fraud. We have been compromised, checkmate! The road is even longer and will soon disappear if it hasnt already. We are suckers! we believed in the responsible honor and integrity of our elected officials to do the right thing for America and they sided with the destroyers. dark days ahead


22 posted on 11/11/2012 8:47:29 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Brietbart)
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To: G Larry
and also...if they are gonna pass any kind of amnesty for illegals, only those that have paid taxes and have never been on welfare or any kind of government assistance may apply...
23 posted on 11/11/2012 8:58:58 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: tobyhill

How about this:
We close all LEGAL immigration until we have dealt with and assimilated the illegals who are here. Assimilation is defined as follows:
1. They are identified
2. They are reasonably fluent in English
3. They are self-supporting
4. They have paid fine
5. They have had the required background checks (criminal)
6. They have had the required health checks, vaccinations
7. They have passed the citizenship test
Only when 80 per cent of illegals have become thusly assimilated into AMERICAN CULTURE, do we open up our pathways to LEGALS.

What does this do? It draws a clear line between immigration and legality. It gives people trying to get people in legally, a reason to pay attention and we create a different interest group, that of “legals” all around the world. It moves the needle away from race and onto legality and the real problems that we must solve, mostly assimilation. The Pols must be made to choose between LEGAL and ILLEGAL.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 9:20:44 AM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: tobyhill

Starting talks is a ploy and a trap. Once talks begin, expect a tsunami wave of pressure from Hispanic groups and the huge cottage industry of immigration lobbies aided and abetted by the MSM and the Republican punditocracy including the Wall St. J. to exert an unbearable pressure on the Republican leadership to confer legitimate status on a broad swath of illegals. Last Tuesday, we reaped the whirlwind of the first Reagan amnesty (illegals who became citizens and voted) and now we plant the seeds of yet another destruction. Will we ever learn?


25 posted on 11/11/2012 9:31:18 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: tobyhill
From the text:

There are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, most of them Hispanic.

I heard that respected commentator Ben Stein was emoting forth today on this subject. He mentioned the now mantra that is being repeated again and again. That is that the day of the old white man ruling things is over. That the Republican party needs to get with the fact of the power of the Hispanics. This could well be, time will tell. I go to my well thumbed copy of Rules For Radicals, author Saul D. Alinsky (1909-1972), quoting Alinsky.

Pick the target, freeze it, polarize it.

What has happened here is that an identifiable group has been targeted. It has been targeted along both racial lines and by definition of age.

Orwell's nightmare seemingly coming true. That two opposing views can be held at the same time, by those who form a mobocracy. For those who gloat over the apparent demise of the said old white men, would scream blue murder if someone identified a minority group.

Please excuse this ramble.

26 posted on 11/11/2012 9:43:21 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: tobyhill

Oh please. These jerks are the worst of the worst.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 11:18:03 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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