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1 posted on 11/11/2012 7:55:42 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Time for the States to stand up against the Imperial Federal Government and its goons.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 8:00:59 AM PST by texson66 (In the words of Kent Brockman, "As for myself, I welcome our new commie overlords...")
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To: Kaslin
it's actually time to start taking your own personal medical problems to your Democrat Senators and Democrat Representatives.

Seriously folks, it doesn't take much more correspondence to utterly collapse their correspondence and constituent service units.

The Republican House controls the budget, and the funding for such matters are in their purview so a serious public uprising using 'soft weapons' would be quite effective ~ just don't bother the Republicans with this attack.

3 posted on 11/11/2012 8:05:17 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

While true, these actions require cooperation and backbone by the state govts in the face of what will be enormous federal and media pushback. However another road is open and we see cutbacks in workers and/or full time employees are starting to occur and could cascade into the marketplace.If there is no employer insurance and there are limited state exchanges then all will be dumped on the Feds causing chaos. The Obama people actually hoped the private sector would just go along and there’d be no need for govt exchanges because they know how difficult they will be to manage. Think healthcare provided by the same people who gave Long Islanders LIPA. But all this will take courage, patience, forebearance, and willingness to cooperate across states and the marketplace. I don’t know any one or group that could organize this.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 8:08:05 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Kaslin

If we are willing to die to save and protect our country then who needs Obamacare?

Why bother wasting you meager wages on a healthcare plan if we are TRULY dedicated to laying down our lives for our future.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 8:12:23 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Kaslin

Just one year ago, Ohioans voted overwhelmingly (66%)for a state constitutional amendment rejecting the federal mandate. All 88 counties voted for the amendment, including Cuyahoga (Cleveland) 58 to 42. Amazing.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 8:19:39 AM PST by Gorilla44
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To: Kaslin

Higher taxes, fewer jobs, and less protection and he gets reelected,I didn’t know this country had that many idiots in it.
At some point they will find that even the gov tit dries up.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 8:39:16 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare was created by a bunch of morons so who is suprised to find out that it won’t work? It was always unworkable. It will collapse under its own weight as half the states can’t afford to implement it and others just don’t want to. In time it will take care of itself.

Ask yourself how many millions of americans will just not bother to sign up for Obamacare. There’s not much they can really do to you. Twenty something’s could care less about a fine. They won’t pay it. Who in their right mind is going to give the IRS access to draft money out of their bank account? I would never do that in a million years.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 8:40:00 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin
Whenever I read about Obamacare and all of these idiotic complexities, I can't help but think about the wisdom of former Soviet dissident Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. After he had his citizenship stripped and he was exiled to the U.S. in the early 1970s, he gave an interview in which he described the ambivalence he felt about that turn of events. I'm going to paraphrase a remarkable comment he made as best I remember it (the emphasis is mine):

"Losing my citizenship in a nation that has no moral right to exist does not bother me. The Soviet Union didn't even exist 100 years ago, and it may even cease to exist before I die."

17 posted on 11/11/2012 8:51:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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There is an aspect of this people seem to be overlooking. Obamacare is not about “health” and it’s not about “care” it’s about control. The taxes, IRS access to all bank accounts, all the other pieces that when put together, mean no freedom. Do you honestly think they “care” if you get help? Stopping the “care” portion does not stop the regulation and that is why they wanted the bill in the first place, and why they pulled out all the stops to re-elect the man who passed it. Which is why they support and cover up for him, so the regulations would not be repealed.

Sorry, been a bit depressed since the presstitutes got their guy...

Delph


18 posted on 11/11/2012 8:56:55 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Kaslin

Agreed!! I say use every weakness found in this disastrous legislation to undermine and destroy it. Let’s turn Alinsky’s rules against them this time!!


20 posted on 11/11/2012 9:02:38 AM PST by VRWCRick
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To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
President Obama has won reelection, and his administration has asked state officials to decide by Friday, November 16, whether their state will create one of Obamacare’s health-insurance “exchanges.” States also have to decide whether to implement the law's massive expansion of Medicaid. The correct answer to both questions remains a resounding no.
State-created exchanges mean higher taxes, fewer jobs, and less protection of religious freedom. States are better off defaulting to a federal exchange. The Medicaid expansion is likewise too costly and risky a proposition. Republican Governors Association chairman Bob McDonnell (R.,Va.) agrees, and has announced that Virginia will implement neither provision.
There are many arguments against creating exchanges.
First, states are under no obligation to create one.
Second, operating an Obamacare exchange would be illegal in 14 states. Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, and Virginia have enacted either statutes or constitutional amendments (or both) forbidding state employees to participate in an essential exchange function: implementing Obamacare’s individual and employer mandates.
Third, each exchange would cost its state an estimated $10 million to $100 million per year, necessitating tax increases.
Fourth, the November 16 deadline is no more real than the “deadlines” for implementing REAL ID, which have been pushed back repeatedly since 2008.
Fifth, states can always create an exchange later if they choose.

Obama-care ping!

21 posted on 11/11/2012 10:14:34 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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So I assume what will happen will be a refusal to implement any obamacare infrastructure (organization) to provide any healthcare services, because as what the SCOTUS stated in the majority opinion written by Roberts was that this Obamacare is not a healthcare “system” rather a “tax” as it has been cleverly disguised from from the beginning...

So I assume as soon as the stoopid people realize this, it will still be too late to prevent the stoopid states from legitimizing this “healthcare system”, but rather comply with the Feds and submit to the new taxes accordingly???

Congress could theoretically pull the plug on this anyway, because they do have the power to tax and also to remove such taxing entities as the majority sees fit to do so...

I wonder if there are any Representatives left up there with any courage to do this???

I will not hold my breath...

Just my opinion/viewpoint...


23 posted on 11/11/2012 9:07:43 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Kaslin

The thing is, it was never interpreted or reported correctly.

The appeal (and I believe it was the 11th Circuit) was whether it could be justified by the Interstate Commerce Clause. It was NEVER, AFAIK, and from reading the decision in that case, about whether it could be sustained under the Congressional taxing power.

The decision, which sadly shows the lack of law training at the court these days, was that Congress COULD create such a law under the Congressional power to tax. It WAS NOT that Congress DID create the law under the power to tax. And if you read the enacted statutes, IT’S A PENALTY, NOT A TAX!!


25 posted on 11/12/2012 3:04:13 AM PST by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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