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In Defeats, Evangelicals' Political Unity at All-Time High
Christianity Today ^ | 11/7/2012 | Tobin Grant and Ted Olsen

Posted on 11/11/2012 10:43:47 AM PST by daniel1212

While evangelical leaders have long protested that evangelicalism is politically diverse and is a theological identifier rather than a political one, it appears that evangelicals are more politically unified than ever before...

We know less about evangelical voters this year than we did four years ago because exit polls did not ask as many voters about being a "born again or evangelical" Christian. According to pre-election polls, white evangelicals backed Romney by nearly a four-to-one margin. Romney received a larger slice of the evangelical vote than any previous Republican presidential candidate. At nearly 80 percent, evangelical support for Romney was as strong—and perhaps even stronger—than the support Romney received from Mormons.

If further analysis bears such a figure out, it will be a dramatic benchmark in conservative Protestant voting trends. In 1982, exit polls showed an even 50-50 split of self-identified "born again" voters between Republican and Democratic candidates. That shifted to a 2-to-1 split favoring Republicans in the later '80s and throughout the 1990s. Even when some exit polls shifted the question to ask whether voters were "members of the religious right," two-thirds of such respondents supported Republican candidates. In 2004, "born again or evangelical" voters voted 3-to-1 for Bob Dole. In 2008, Democrats rebounded somewhat, with Obama receiving 29 percent of "born again/evangelical" support to John McCain's 71 percent. To put a four-to-one margin in perspective: It's the same percentage of self-identified Republicans who voted for George H. W. Bush in 1988...

The high water mark for evangelical support for Romney was in Mississippi. Half of the voters in Mississippi were white evangelicals (up from 43 percent in 2008). Of these, 96 percent said they voted for Romney. In comparison, 94 percent of African-Americans in the state voted for Obama...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012analysisreligion; 2012electionanalysis; conservatism; election; evangelical; religion
Perhaps not as highly unified as the title says, but the most conservative religious voting block. This is an excerpt [limit 300 words], you can see the rest here: In Defeats, Evangelicals' Political Unity at All-Time High

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1 posted on 11/11/2012 10:44:02 AM PST by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; HossB86; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/11/2012 10:46:56 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

I think the more important question with Evangelicals is, how many simply didn’t vote for either guy? A larger percentage of a smaller base does a candidate no good.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 10:49:36 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: daniel1212

do Christians know what being Christian is?


4 posted on 11/11/2012 10:52:09 AM PST by the_daug
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To: dirtboy

Im not one of the new term “evangalicals” but I didnt vote for either baby killing same sex marriage pusher...

Put me down as (blood bought, Bible believing) Christian


5 posted on 11/11/2012 11:08:06 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’ll just put you down as somebody who doesn’t give a damn about what happens to America.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 11:18:36 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Typical. Enjoy your government cheese, serf.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 11:30:07 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: daniel1212
After Election 2012: Living in the 'New Moral Landscape'

Should that not be AMORAL???

8 posted on 11/11/2012 11:56:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dirtboy

I’m in that group


9 posted on 11/11/2012 11:57:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: the_daug
do Christians know what being Christian is?

Not many do...


 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I’ll just put you down as somebody who doesn’t give a damn about what happens to America.

You do that quite well!

11 posted on 11/11/2012 11:59:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 98ZJ USMC
Enjoy your government cheese, serf.

We WANT you on that wall.

We NEED you on that wall!

12 posted on 11/11/2012 12:00:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

It depends on who the opponent is. Obama was for Evangelicals what he was for African-Americans — a rallying point. One group rallied against him, the other group for, but one can’t expect every election is going to produce the same result (at least for evangelicals — sometimes it looks like it does for Blacks). Another race with different candidates might not produce the same result.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 12:06:44 PM PST by x
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

rofl,.....heehee


14 posted on 11/11/2012 12:13:07 PM PST by annieokie
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To: dirtboy

The Faith and Freedom Coalition, an organization in Duluth, Ga., dedicated to educating and mobilizing people of faith to be effective citizens, revealed that the evangelical vote increased to 27 percent this year, with 78 percent of them voting for Romney and 21 percent for Obama. http://www.citizenlink.com/2012/11/08/surveys-evangelical-electorate-vote-increases/


15 posted on 11/11/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: x

A valid statement, but as the article shows, this conservative majority has been the case for a long time and is manifest in many areas: http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2956727/posts?page=119#119http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#POLITICAL


16 posted on 11/11/2012 12:29:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: the_daug

Apparently at least 20% do not, though we all should do better in living out the faith.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 12:31:10 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; aimhigh; AmericanArchConservative; aMorePerfectUnion; R; annieokie; AnTiw1; ...

ping


18 posted on 11/11/2012 12:31:25 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; Tennessee Nana
Hey, retread noob, I didn't vote for either one myself.

I cheerfully cast my NYS throwaway vote for president as a protest vote for a third party candidate.

And ideologically, there is no difference between Romney and obama. They are supporting the same agenda. The only difference is the method to their madness, or plans of destruction of the US.

Romney is just willing to go slower.

Ultimately that may benefit us that he lost.

Throw a frog in a pot of boiling water and he'll jump out. Turn up the heat slowly enough and he'll cook.

19 posted on 11/11/2012 12:36:46 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: daniel1212
All very true. If I remember correctly, though, Carter and Clinton did well among Evangelical voters.

Historically, the kind of elections we've seen in this century are atypical, though by now polarizing elections of this sort are becoming the norm.

21 posted on 11/11/2012 12:49:47 PM PST by x
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To: metmom

And which 3rd party candidate did you vote for, BTW?


22 posted on 11/11/2012 12:54:50 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: dirtboy
I can't agree with the basic premise....

When traditionally African American churches, groups and entire 'Christian' denominations vote wholesale...
....For the person and party who supports taxpayer-funded abortion and same-sex marriage....

There's a significant disconnect here somewhere...

My humble only...

23 posted on 11/11/2012 2:01:41 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: daniel1212

I don’t get the whole Evangelical thing as opposed to “born again”.

You have to be born again to be a Christian and since all Christians are called to witness to others and evangelize them so they will convert.

Simple explanation and maybe in artful.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 3:11:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; Tennessee Nana

FO nOOb


25 posted on 11/11/2012 3:15:01 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome
I apologize. I'll refrain from having an opinion until I rack up some time.

/Sarc

26 posted on 11/11/2012 3:20:00 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; Tennessee Nana; 98ZJ USMC

I’m with Nana! Giving a damn about what happens to America is irrelevant. God Himself has set a course for these last days and voting for a person who won’t openly oppose same sex marriage or abortion or stand strongly for biblical principles will not improve ones standing with Him. We are on our own with God in these last days and nothing we do will change the course America has been put on now.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 3:26:40 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

God helps those who help themselves.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 3:29:17 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
It's one thing to "have an opinion". It's another to use it as insult.

So do you mean you will reel in the insults until you 'rack up some time'?. The /sarc tag indicates that would be a "no".

Uh, what was/were your previous/other FR identities?

29 posted on 11/11/2012 3:31:31 PM PST by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
God helps those who help themselves.

Where in the Holy Bible is that folk saying found? Chapter & verse, please.

30 posted on 11/11/2012 3:35:51 PM PST by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

God never said that.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 3:36:54 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; Wyrd bið ful aræd; Tennessee Nana; 98ZJ USMC
I’m with Nana! Giving a damn about what happens to America is irrelevant. God Himself has set a course for these last days and voting for a person who won’t openly oppose same sex marriage or abortion or stand strongly for biblical principles will not improve ones standing with Him. We are on our own with God in these last days and nothing we do will change the course America has been put on now.

I'm with you on that one.

Hey, I give a damn about America, but and I will fight tooth and nail at the level I am on, but CB is correct, we are on a collision course with the plan of God and our opinion is not going to change that.

32 posted on 11/11/2012 3:41:02 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; CynicalBear
God helps those who help themselves.

Unscriptural twaddle.

33 posted on 11/11/2012 3:42:10 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: BlueDragon
"It's one thing to "have an opinion". It's another to use it as insult."

A statement of fact, actually. Furthermore, I suggest you vacate freerepublic, nay, the entire internet if 'insults'/disagreements are so terribly damaging for you to observe.

"Chapter/verse please"

Its not in the bible (oh wait, its actually in the book of Hezekiah). Neither is 'ashes to ashes, dust to dust.' But it still makes sense.

34 posted on 11/11/2012 3:43:03 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: BlueDragon
"It's one thing to "have an opinion". It's another to use it as insult."

A statement of fact, actually. Furthermore, I suggest you vacate freerepublic, nay, the entire internet if 'insults'/disagreements are so terribly damaging for you to observe.

"Chapter/verse please"

Its not in the bible (oh wait, its in the book of "Hezekiah"). Neither is 'ashes to ashes, dust to dust.' But it still makes sense.

35 posted on 11/11/2012 3:44:33 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Naw, just shove it...punk.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 3:45:45 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

By your leave ma’am.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 3:52:52 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Knock it off with the abuse reports newbie.


38 posted on 11/11/2012 3:53:21 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
On my own comment...I neglected to put book of Hezekiah is quotes, potentially giving the impression I actuallt think there is a book of hezekiah.

But you're the boss. I have a feeling I'll regret further involvement on this thread, as such I'll take my leave.

39 posted on 11/11/2012 3:58:13 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
It's not that insults are "terribly damaging to me to observe". It's more like personal attacks, though fairly frequent, are still frowned upon on this forum. You've ignited a little flame war. Happy now? Didn't you read the info highlighted in red under your posts? Or are folks here just for you to insult at your leisure? What makes you think anybody is interested in your [negative] opinion of their persons? Are you important, or something?

In the book of Hezekiah? Let's see it.

What are your other freep handles again?

40 posted on 11/11/2012 3:58:45 PM PST by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Aaaawwwwwwww shaddup noob.


41 posted on 11/11/2012 4:02:20 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Vendome; metmom; boatbums

I understand, and will try to give my perception of it.

As “Christian” much lost its distinctive meaning, the use of “born again” become a way for converts to separate themselves as souls who had experienced the new birth versus the institutionalized they typically had been, or from those who had no testimony of conversion (usually simply having been sprinkled as an infant, and given intellectual assent to some questions later).

Born again was more of a personal tag which was used by souls in many denoms, including those who were not what we call evangelical, esp as result of the charismatic movement within such.

The term “evangelical” became used to describe more of a doctrinal movement, in distinguishing btwn those who held to fundamentals doctrines behind the new birth and such things as the social gospel and institutionalized religion, although “evangelical” also was used to distinguish btwn “fundamentalists” who were even more committed to doctrinal purity, but which tended to overreact as in rejecting social work,

And of course, “born again” itself has been used much broader than the use of term originally hope to denote. Think Jimmy Cater.

Few people actually ID themselves as evangelical, and for polling purposes most pollsters do not distinguish btwn “born again” and “evangelical,” and placing one in the evangelical block is based on which denom the subject IDs with, and which are defined as evangelical based on evangelical distinctives. See http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#Evangelical


42 posted on 11/11/2012 4:27:03 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

So if I help myself to booze and hookers and do all sorts of immoral acts, God will help me?


43 posted on 11/11/2012 4:30:14 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: daniel1212
exit polls did not ask as many voters about being a "born again or evangelical" Christian.

Apparently most pollsters don't have access to bibles, and probably wouldn't read it if they did have access to one. If they did they would know that the terms "born again" and "evangelical" don't constitute an either-or proposition. Every authentic Christian, evangelical or otherwise, has been born again or else he/she would not be a Christian.

Jesus himself said to Nicodemus "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God", the doctrine that is to me the very essence of biblical Christianity. Good works are worthy of reward after salvation is secured through belief in Jesus' claim that He is God's own divine Son, 2nd personage of the Holy Trinity come to earth in human flesh yet without sin. But good works have no part in the doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone as the sinless virgin born Son of God who gave His life on mankind's behalf to pay the death penalty for our sin.

Maybe I'm being too picky about this seemingly trivial matter. However, so much has been said about and written about the term "born again" in disparaging terms by enemies and critics of biblical Christianity and those of us who believe in the veracity of Holy Scripture that I may have become overly sensitive to the implication that all Christians are ignorant hillbillies who are too simple minded and/or uneducated to realize that God is a mythical being who was venerated by many people in the past, but is now known to be nothing more than a pre-Darwin myth by all people everywhere other than a few southern America backwoods folk who topped out at 5th grade or below before dropping out to help Pa feed the hogs and tend the moonshine still.

44 posted on 11/11/2012 6:38:55 PM PST by epow (The way of the cross leads home)
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To: ejonesie22
I didn't mean *help yourself*.

I meant help yourself. As in, if you need food, do something to get it. If you need work, do something to get it. God granted us marvelous abilities, and presumably expects us to use them.

45 posted on 11/12/2012 8:13:59 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: epow

“Every authentic Christian, evangelical or otherwise, has been born again or else he/she would not be a Christian.”

This is indeed the truth, and i understand your contention, but the problem remains that “Christian” came to denote most anything that calls itself that, and thus such as those who were converted out of mere forms of that word sought to distinguish themselves.

And while I do not think the pollsters have much use for the Bible, yet they did not make these distinctions, but as they existed with manifest distinctions, then it is within their purview to report these and quantify them, although calling anything Christian that is not “born again and evangelical” is misleading.


46 posted on 11/13/2012 2:19:08 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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