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Probe into horrific home explosion in Indy could be lengthy (Homeland Security involved)
wbst.com ^ | 11/11 | wbst.com

Posted on 11/11/2012 2:54:34 PM PST by RummyChick

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - The investigation into an explosion on the south side of Indianapolis could take weeks, an official with Citizens Energy said on Sunday.

Two people were killed, and more than a dozen homes were damaged or destroyed after a large explosion rocked a south side neighborhood late Saturday night.

The Indianapolis Fire Department says the explosion happened in the 8400 block of Fieldfare Way, which is in a subdivision just off of Sherman Avenue south of Stop 11 Road.

Citizens Energy shut off gas to all the homes in the subdivision and investigated potential gas issues in the neighborhood. An official said the company had received no reports of an odor of gas in the area, and no gas leaks had been discovered as of early Sunday morning.

Indianapolis Fire Department planned to continue investigating S

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KEYWORDS: 2killed; explosion; gasexplosion; gasleak; homeexplosion; indiana; indianapolis
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Anyone familiar with gas leaks? The concussive wave was reported to have been felt miles and miles away into Hancock county
Conspiracy websites are going crazy over this.

Btw, I have no idea if this has been posted because the search function no longer works for me. What's the deal with that?

1 posted on 11/11/2012 2:54:43 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
IDK anything about this event but I do know that around this time of year natural gas or propane explosions seem to proliferate, as systems start to fire up that have been neglected all summer long.
2 posted on 11/11/2012 2:57:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RummyChick

Walter White.....please pick up the white courtesy phone.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 2:59:35 PM PST by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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To: RummyChick
Wow. That was an earthshattering kaboom.

Holy carp.

What a mess.

/johnny

4 posted on 11/11/2012 2:59:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SLB

Wow! That was one nasty explosion.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 3:00:10 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: RummyChick
On reflection... no crater, limited burn area (yeah 3 houses is limited for a boom that big).... I call FAE, whether intentional or accidental.

/johnny

6 posted on 11/11/2012 3:03:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Can a natural gas explosion be felt dozens of miles away.

Now there are claims that it was a drone hit. The drone had deviated from a flight track. That is supposedly a report from Russia. Propaganda out there to get people stirred up.

Reports at the beginning of the incident and on police scanners said it was a plane crash The Mayor said that was quickly dispelled.

Firefighters on the scene said they had never seen a gas explosion like this with such effect. It’s like a war zone


7 posted on 11/11/2012 3:03:12 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: hinckley buzzard

There are combination CO / Combustible gas detectors available for well under $100. Sounds like a good thing (or two) to use around the house.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 3:03:45 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: RummyChick
Iron bombs leave holes in the ground (generally) and spread burning debris further. FAE. Accident.

/johnny

9 posted on 11/11/2012 3:05:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Donkey Odious

One of the houses was vacant. I immediately thought of Walter White.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 3:06:52 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Paladin2
Combustible gas detectors available for well under $100

And then, 2 years later, when you change the battery because it died.. a small spark leaps across.... ;)

You can't win. The universe HATES us.

/johnny

11 posted on 11/11/2012 3:07:44 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
" I call FAE"

Yep, it really doesn't take all that much fuel either.

12 posted on 11/11/2012 3:08:36 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: RummyChick
Well I'm 4 miles from this, the rumor goes, gas explosion, meth lab, and in the local pub this afternoon......a hit because whoever this owner is was sneaky.

I'm sure more rumors will follow, local FOX 59 just said the 2 dead were a Greenwood School teacher and her husband.......thats all I know for now.

This report is worth what you paid for it.

13 posted on 11/11/2012 3:09:46 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL!


14 posted on 11/11/2012 3:10:10 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up." ~marron)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"The universe HATES us."

The Laws of Physics (and Chemistry) are not just good ideas.

Nor can 0bama modify them.

15 posted on 11/11/2012 3:10:22 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: Kakaze

Did they live in the home that exploded?

Here is more info

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/marion_county/home-explosion-kills-two-on-south-side

Adam Collins with the Indianapolis Department of Code Enforcement says they have made 126 visual inspections - 80 properties suffered damage, 50 are considered to have minor damages. There are 31 homes labeled with major damages.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 3:12:09 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Doesn't look like a very old neighborhood. Back when I was in college there school was surrounded by homes that were about 30 to 35 years old. One summer in particular was quite exciting as every couple of weeks a house would go kaboom because of aged and corroded lines, and the phones would ring off the hooks when everyone in town would call the school to see if one of our experiments had caused the noise.

I wonder who lived in the house in this case? Seems too new for there to be an issue but with parts made in China, or really dumb workers installing things, who can be sure? Maybe some prepper's stash went off, or maybe Obama's bdy Ayers has been building bombs again..

17 posted on 11/11/2012 3:12:27 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Kakaze
Prayers up for the family. Didn't realize there were fatalities.

/johnny

18 posted on 11/11/2012 3:13:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RummyChick
We had one blow up about two blocks over and that damage looks similar. It took out all my nth facing windows and did considerable damage to surrounding houses. That house was only about 1200 square ft, the one in the pic looks much larger. And elderly woman lost her life in that one but it's pretty sure she passed before the explosion.
19 posted on 11/11/2012 3:13:42 PM PST by Dusty Road
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To: RummyChick
Firefighters on the scene said they had never seen a gas explosion like this with such effect. It’s like a war zone

Having seen the devastation of a natural gas explosion within a residential neighborhood, I would say this was a gas explosion.

The amage is very similar. Homes just disintegrate...

20 posted on 11/11/2012 3:14:14 PM PST by bayliving (I suffer from democrat induced tourette syndrome...)
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To: RummyChick
"There are 31 homes labeled with major damages."

A brief re-review of the posted pic does reveal the near neighbors have some REAL problems.

21 posted on 11/11/2012 3:14:27 PM PST by Paladin2 (.)
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To: RummyChick
Did they live in the home that exploded?

I don't know, i caught the report as part of the half time of the Dallas, Philly game.

It will probably take a bit to sort it out.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 3:14:56 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: RummyChick
just from the force of the blast


23 posted on 11/11/2012 3:16:29 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: JRandomFreeper
Prayers up for the family. Didn't realize there were fatalities.

Yeah two people passed, looks as if the neighbors were very lucky that is all that happened. On a saturday night it could have been a lot worse.

24 posted on 11/11/2012 3:17:41 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: RummyChick
There was a doozy like this in St Louis a few years ago that made the national news.

Just wait 'til thanksgiving and the usual redneck turkey cooking accidents start occurring- late night radio tinfoilers will be claiming drone strikes every time some moron drops a dripping wet turkey into a turkey fryer.

25 posted on 11/11/2012 3:18:13 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Paladin2

Looks like FAE, with very little initiation.


26 posted on 11/11/2012 3:19:14 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RummyChick

My brother’s next door neighbor’s house blew up and killed the owner. He sent his wife and newborn to a hotel for the night because of the smell and the gas repairman was supposed to come over and investigate it first thing in the morning.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 3:19:41 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: RummyChick

here is an aerial view via helicopter
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/video/video-chopper-8-flies-over-explosion-aftermath


28 posted on 11/11/2012 3:20:29 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Wow... couple of pounds of overpressure.

Baby nuke kind of thing. Bending a door like that, and blowing it however far away...

What a mess. Prayers up for all involved.

/johnny

29 posted on 11/11/2012 3:21:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sawdring

What I can’t figure out is how this was felt more than 20 miles away in Hancock county. I did a map search to see the distance. That is a long way to feel that explosion.

A guy from the gas company said they found no leaking gas in the ground in the neighborhood.

Saw one rumor that the family had been having work done on the house. If so, that company is about to go bankrupt.


30 posted on 11/11/2012 3:25:54 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Kakaze

My first guess was meth lab.
Pretty sure DHS is pro meth so probably something else.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 3:26:59 PM PST by Morris70
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To: RummyChick
There are gas leaks, and there are gas leaks. In one case, the gas leaks out of the distribution network. That gas has the ethyl mercaptan (skunk) smell added, so leaks can be detected by human smell. But the earth sometimes leaks gas on it's own volition, and that stuff is odorless. I don't know if there is any natural gas in that part of Indiana.

Maybe a fire caused a pressurized tank (no leak) to explode.

32 posted on 11/11/2012 3:28:04 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: JRandomFreeper


33 posted on 11/11/2012 3:29:07 PM PST by RummyChick
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34 posted on 11/11/2012 3:31:54 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RummyChick
Depends on conditions. The airstation is a couple of air miles away. This time of year, I make sure I'm outside at 8:00am and put up the flag while the National Anthem plays. Yes, I face the music, and render a salute.

I hear the warm fuzzy noise of their exersizes (small arms and explosion simulators) really well this time of year.

I'm not very surpised that it was felt 20 miles away.

/johnny

35 posted on 11/11/2012 3:32:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RummyChick
The low frequency sound was conducted through the underlying limestone. The soils in Indiana North of the limits of the great glaciers are exceedingly fertile and well suited to agriculture ~ but they are actually quite thin and unless you live in an area also underlain by a large pothole full of gravel, you learn all about drought every few years.

This is physiologically pretty much the same subsurface condition you find in East and South Texas.

36 posted on 11/11/2012 3:32:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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So seeing people linking to claims that Monserrate Roman Shirley was an owner of one of the houses. Anyone else hear that? There is a NASA employee payload specialist with the same name.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 3:34:36 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I seem to recall the police bombing their own employers in Philadelphia, PA some 25 years ago with similar results and more fatalities.

Not insinuating anything, just a reminder.

And yes, a natural gas leak is very capable of producing a kaboom of this magnitude.

38 posted on 11/11/2012 3:34:51 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: RummyChick

I live about 3 miles from the explosion and it certainly woke me up at 11:13 last night. I thought someone had ran a car into the front of our home because the house shook. My son is a nurse and one of his nurse collegues owned the house that exploded. She had been having trouble with her gas heat all week and Citizens gas had been out working on her gas lines just three or four days before the explosion. She was gone from home since Thursday night and not home when the explosion occured. Thus, it certainly appears to be a gas explosion. She did, however, get a call from police asking if she had any enemies or anyone who might want to do something like this to her but I think they are just covering all the bases for the inevitable lawsuits which will be forthcoming.


39 posted on 11/11/2012 3:36:20 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Cboldt
I know the locations of several stripper wells within 40 miles of that site. However, the whole area was drilled and tapped for easy to get natural gas over a century ago. They've been drilling into the same formations to go deeper to do a bit of fraking to get natural gas.

The Cincinatti Arch underlies this region, and there's an ancient over thrust belt downthere as well, so you can get natural gas coming up through holes you didn't know where there. Many homeowners in Indiana get free gas through old wells.

If this wasn't a bomb of some kind it may be nothing but an old gas well overlooked when the developer built these homes in the recent past.

40 posted on 11/11/2012 3:37:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RummyChick

The best defense against this sort of thing is something called “sprawl”, which the left everywhere absolutely hates, because it involves spreading out a bit.


41 posted on 11/11/2012 3:38:11 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: JRandomFreeper

3-4 psi overpressure would do that, or worse. I agree, FAE likely accidental.


42 posted on 11/11/2012 3:38:38 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RummyChick
That's gonna leave a mark.

/johnny

43 posted on 11/11/2012 3:38:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Second grade teacher and husband killed

this story indicating the home that exploded was vacant http://dmnewsi.com/2012/11/11/teacher-husband-killed-in-indiana-blast/
44 posted on 11/11/2012 3:39:12 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Just dammit.

Prayers continue for their family.

/johnny

45 posted on 11/11/2012 3:41:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: circlecity

Funny how the employee of the gas company failed to mention that. When asked if there had been any problems he responded that there were no calls with dispatch. not sure his exact wording to know what kind of words he used.

Thank goodness she wasn’t home.

So, wonder if the Gas Company can be sued on this??


46 posted on 11/11/2012 3:42:37 PM PST by RummyChick
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"So, wonder if the Gas Company can be sued on this??"

I'd say it's a virtual certainty. Expect to see the lawsuits within a couple of weeks.

47 posted on 11/11/2012 3:47:18 PM PST by circlecity
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To: RummyChick

Some years ago there was a home explosion about 25 miles from where we lived and I heard/felt it. This was over a rural, hilly and wooded area. I was surprised it traveled that far but it did.


48 posted on 11/11/2012 3:51:03 PM PST by Nickname
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“Anyone familiar with gas leaks? The concussive wave was reported to have been felt miles and miles away into Hancock county
Conspiracy websites are going crazy over this.”

I was sitting in my forth grade classroom when the entire back of the house across the street disintegrated in a gas explosion. It made quite an impression on me. That was in 1959 and to this day I’m always alert for leaks.


49 posted on 11/11/2012 3:54:23 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: circlecity

Thanks to you we now have information before the media ;-)


50 posted on 11/11/2012 3:54:48 PM PST by RummyChick
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