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Mitch McConnell: Sen. Schumer's 'On Another Planet'
NewsBusters.org ^ | November 11, 2012 | Tim Graham

Posted on 11/11/2012 5:11:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Stephen Moore of The Wall Street Journal interviewed Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who talked tough. "I am not willing to raise taxes to turn off the sequester. Period." He said Sen. Chuck Schumer is "on another planet" to think Republicans would just raise tax rates and close loopholes.

Moore noted this is a negotiating position. “This isn't to say that next week, when the lame-duck congressional session begins to negotiate some kind of budget solution, taxes are off the table. Mr. McConnell is a realist.” And Obama will come looking to strike deals with moderate Republicans:

It isn't at all certain that Mr. McConnell and House Speaker John Boehner will be able to hold their troops together. The senator understands that Mr. Obama will try to cut a deal with other senators—Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Susan Collins of Maine, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina—but Mr. McConnell doubts that the tactic will work. "We have differences on other issues, but on taxes I can't think of a single member of my conference from Maine to Texas who thought he was sent here to Washington to raise taxes on anybody or anything."

...I ask him about the recent counterproposal by Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer that Republicans should abandon tax reform of the kind that passed in 1986 and lowered rates in return for fewer loopholes, and instead should both close loopholes and keep tax rates high to lower the deficit. "He's on another planet," Mr. McConnell replies, and doesn't seem to be kidding.

Would Republicans accept the liberal dream of a value-added tax as a new revenue machine? "There won't be any new tax. It's not going to happen in this Congress," he says.

What is clear about the coming tax-cliff negotiations is that Mr. McConnell doesn't trust the White House after the debacle of the debt-ceiling nonsolution in July 2011.

"The speaker and I spent an endless amount of time in the first half of 2011 trying to get the president to do what we all know has to be done if we're going to save the country," Mr. McConnell says. "Until we adjust the entitlement programs to fit the demographics of today's America, you can't fix the problem. You can't tax your way out of it. You can't cut health-care providers as a way out of it. But Democrats laughed at those ideas even when we offered a quarter-trillion of higher revenues largely taken from high-income people."

....What is also evident from our conversation is that Mr. McConnell and his colleagues don't trust the president and his underlings even in closed-door meetings. "He was never serious in 2011 about solving the debt problem. What happened was the president set the crossbar so high on taxes that he knew we couldn't get a deal." Did Mr. Obama intentionally sabotage the deal? "Sure, it was clear to me in retrospect that the whole strategy for re-election was to energize his liberal base."

Yet Mr. McConnell is convinced that a deal isn't hopeless, and he mentions the one time in Mr. Obama's first term that Democrats and Republicans reached an agreement. "I was the one who personally negotiated with Joe Biden the extension of the current tax rates" after the 2010 midterm elections. "When the president said, 'I'm for it,' 40 Senate Democrats voted to extend the Bush tax cuts, which leads me to my point: Without the president, we can't fix this problem."



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1 posted on 11/11/2012 5:11:26 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

So Mitch, you just now figuring this out?

Liberals are stuck on retarded.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 5:13:17 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Kaslin

I would not give the Gobbler, McConnell much credit.
The Gobbler will run over fellow senators to pull the lever for Amnesty.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 5:15:19 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Kaslin

This was a good article inthe WSJ, took up most of a page. Read it yesterday. I was glad to hear the hard line, which he did repeat several times.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 5:16:53 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: unixfox

Mitch always throws a few tough lines out there to appease the untermensch. Then he goes off to the negotiations and gets pantsed.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 5:20:45 PM PST by skeeter
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To: MrChips

How much spending/debt ceiling rise is Mitch repsonsible for???


6 posted on 11/11/2012 5:21:20 PM PST by CanadianBloodAmericanHeart
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To: tennmountainman

I am no McConnell fan by any means, but he’s sounded pretty good since the election - much better than Boehner.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 5:21:20 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: MrChips

All theater for the masses, ya wanna impress me? Become a man of honor, conviction and integrity who puts country first. Not a one of you feckless spineless kiss a##es can come close.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 5:21:50 PM PST by ronnie raygun (BB)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Get some new blood in there or it’s hopeless.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 5:22:22 PM PST by CanadianBloodAmericanHeart
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To: MrChips

We could have and should have gotten the majority back in the Senate if certain voters would not have sat on their behind on November 6


10 posted on 11/11/2012 5:27:22 PM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: CanadianBloodAmericanHeart

I don’t disagree with you on that, but there’s a game here on FR and a lot of websites that I don’t play: that’s the game where people see Boehner or McConnells name in a headline and they make a snarky drive by comment - which often doesn’t have anything to do with the particular subject at hand.

That’s fine, it’s a free forum for that - but when even a disappointment like McConnell does something right, I think it’s more informative to say so than to jus tdo a drive by poo poo comment. That is an intellectually lazy pursuit in my opinion.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 5:28:11 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I am no McConnell fan by any means, but he’s sounded pretty good since the election - much better than Boehner.


They are playing good cop, bad cop. All the kenyan has to do is make a deal with either Boehner or McConnell. The other chamber will then fall in line. I hope I am wrong but right now I don’t see the GOP up for a brawl during the Lame Duck.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 5:31:55 PM PST by lodi90 (Born free, won't die in chains)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

We shall see what he does besides lip service.
His and boneheads past performance are not very good.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:51 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: CanadianBloodAmericanHeart

There is no guarantee that new blood will be better then what we have


14 posted on 11/11/2012 5:35:29 PM PST by Kaslin ( One Big Ass Mistake America (Make that Two))
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To: lodi90

You may be ultimately right - history will tell - but the notion of insulting Chuch Schumer like that is at least showing a pulse. If for no other reason I like this story.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 5:35:48 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: tennmountainman

Gee, you want to file that under “breaking news?”

Go ahead and be miserable if you want to, for the moment, I’m enjoying a snarky insult from McConnell towards Chuck U Schumer.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 5:37:33 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Sure I know such comments are worthless, but I think our cynicism can be excused given the record of the GOP congress over the past 25 odd years.

If either Mitch or John do - not just say - something I think is good I'll be the first to say so.

17 posted on 11/11/2012 5:42:21 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
if certain voters would not have sat on their behind

I just talked with one tonight. He ives way up on the mountain, and has basically just stopped voting. He said no matter how I vote they're just gonna keep taxing me.

18 posted on 11/11/2012 5:46:33 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: skeeter

Their record sucks, no doubt. Cynacism understood - but dayum, ole man MCConnell talking smack? So much better than Boehner’s wimpy talk this week.


19 posted on 11/11/2012 5:47:30 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Enjoy “the moment”. Talk is cheap. Action requires backbone and principal.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 5:54:48 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

maybe word hasn’t reached the tennessee mountains yet, but talk is how a lot of our politics is done now a days. Boehner’s weak talk is a major part of his problem. But go ahead, and make sure you do not enjoy the moment. That will accomplish, well, nothing.......which is even chepaer than talk....


21 posted on 11/11/2012 5:58:01 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: CanadianBloodAmericanHeart

Agree. Mitch is a go along to get along kinda guy. He will not put up a fight, maybe he’ll look tough in the MSM but cave in the Senate Chamber.


22 posted on 11/11/2012 6:04:36 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You actually think Smuckie and The Gobbler are enemies in that Senate
Club.
Mind if I ping you when The Gobbler votes for this coming Grandest of all Bargains and Amnesty to see if u still have that thrill up your leg?


23 posted on 11/11/2012 6:07:22 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Kaslin

I do not hold out any hope that the pubbies have the stones for this fight.
Sane, thinking Americans ALL know that the answer here is, “Let it crash.” The fiscal cliff is going to happen, with all that entails. Better now than later. Better with us than with our children and grandchildren.

Bring it, Zero. Let’s get it over with and be done with you and your socialism.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 6:07:51 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: tennmountainman

You and your buddies go pick the vegetables, mow the grass at the Wal Mart, and make up the beds at the motel 6. That must be your career ladder. I see what obsesses you. Bye.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 6:11:44 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Bye


26 posted on 11/11/2012 6:16:50 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Kaslin; All

Milquetoast Mitch is so spineless...he is going to let the Dems walk all over the GOP

Need a new Senate minority leader...one with some gonads.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 6:22:31 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Didn’t Schumer come out and say he was not for raising taxes for households making over $250k because it affect to many NYers, but he was for raising taxes for those making over $1 million ?


28 posted on 11/11/2012 6:31:51 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: tennmountainman

I think both men realize fully that caving on taxes means - - literally - - the demise of the GOP.
If mutterings about turd parties make them nervous now, wait’ll they cave on taxes. The shouts for turd parties will be not only deafening, they will, I have little doubt, actually lead to the creation of a new, bona fide political organization. The rats fully understand this, too.

So, no... Boehner and McConnell will not cave on taxes. Period.


29 posted on 11/11/2012 6:32:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin

Mitch is talking a good game. Let’s wait and see what he does.


30 posted on 11/11/2012 6:34:16 PM PST by Venturer
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To: PMAS

That does sound a bit familiar now that hyou mention it.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 6:34:26 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Boehner is a major reason we’re in this mess. He should have never agreed to that super committee of 12 in the first place.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 6:56:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kaslin
" He said Sen. Chuck Schumer is "on another planet"

Then quit playing ball with the scumbags! .

33 posted on 11/11/2012 7:03:15 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Lancey Howard; All
I think both men realize fully that caving on
taxes means- -literally- -the demise of the GOP...
So, no... Boehner and McConnell will not cave on taxes. Period.
what you say is correct....but, then again..there's a long history...
of these two backstabbing; the other & conservatives, pandering
to O'Bozos' liberal press-itudes for "good air-time"

34 posted on 11/11/2012 7:17:03 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Kaslin; IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; republicanbob1; ...
thanks, for the post / thread.
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

Mitch McConnell: Sen. Schumer's 'On Another Planet'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958409/posts?page=29


35 posted on 11/11/2012 7:25:49 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: cherylina; cherylinaamen; CHES17; CityonaMountain; Clearwater; CMS; CplGrunt; CSArock; culloden; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

Mitch McConnell: Sen. Schumer's 'On Another Planet'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958409/posts?page=29


36 posted on 11/11/2012 7:28:32 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: cherylina; cherylinaamen; CHES17; CityonaMountain; Clearwater; CMS; CplGrunt; CSArock; culloden; ...
A Kentucky Ping.

...for those interested. :D

Mitch McConnell: Sen. Schumer's 'On Another Planet'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958409/posts?page=29


37 posted on 11/11/2012 7:29:18 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Anger a Conservative by telling a lie; Anger a Liberal by telling the truth....RWR 8-)
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To: Kaslin

Whenever McC speaks up, you know it is double talk, but the people of KY believe him for some strange reason.


38 posted on 11/11/2012 7:55:13 PM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting. I think it will continue.)
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To: Theodore R.
Well, to be honest, a race between Mitch and Ashley isn't much of a choice.
39 posted on 11/11/2012 9:54:34 PM PST by Bratch
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I would like to see what Schumer has to say about it now.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 3:57:00 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Kaslin

Speaking of ET’s (Schummer’s on another planet), did you see the photo of Hillary in today’s (Nov. 12, 2012) Drudge?


41 posted on 11/12/2012 11:58:06 AM PST by jayrunner
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