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Posted on 11/11/2012 5:25:31 PM PST by Sub-Driver

We petition the obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: texas

1 posted on 11/11/2012 5:25:35 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

This is absurd.

You don’t “petition” the US government to leave.

You just get up and leave.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 5:32:00 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Sub-Driver
We petition the obama administration to: Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.

Neither Texas, nor any other State, has petitioned to secede. This is only a petition of citizens from Texas.

3 posted on 11/11/2012 5:34:15 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Sub-Driver

A state that produces will never be allowed to leave they are needed to pay for the slouches that are not


4 posted on 11/11/2012 5:35:17 PM PST by ronnie raygun (BB)
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To: Sub-Driver

There was a thread posted about the Louisiana “petition” earlier. I think these have been set up by libs for the purpose of instigation.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 5:35:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ronnie raygun

“A state that produces will never be allowed to leave they are needed to pay for the slouches that are not”

Right on, Slaves trying to leave are caught and pay a price...

But Secession is something many of the states need to seriously discuss as an option now.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 5:38:15 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: ronnie raygun

But those people that sign the petition might be put on a watch list


7 posted on 11/11/2012 5:40:34 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai
I think these have been set up by libs for the purpose of instigation.

What better way to learn name and address of the malcontents.

  1. Signs Petition.
  2. Hears knock on door.

8 posted on 11/11/2012 5:41:03 PM PST by tpmintx (Problem: People who work for a living are almost outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living (47%).)
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To: ronnie raygun

Texas is #3 in Medicaid recipients (after Cal and Fl).
Are they going to ship them out of state?


9 posted on 11/11/2012 5:43:13 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess Rick Perry needs to be President of something! LOL


10 posted on 11/11/2012 5:43:13 PM PST by turn_to
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To: nascarnation

Yes, we also have the highest number of illegals gaming the system.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 5:47:04 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

While petitioning the government to leave is silly, what is not silly is the momentum that is building for a serious look at secession. For a peep at our new constitution, see

http://freetexasconstitution.wordpress.com/

All we need is some leadership from the powers that be in Austin. I also see a meeting between the leaders in Oklahoma convening with the leaders in Texas for a joint push for secession.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 5:48:15 PM PST by grumpa
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To: jafojeffsurf; ronnie raygun; nascarnation

nascarnation is correct. There are simply too many people in every state dependent on a check from Uncle Sam. Suppose Texas says it is going to leave the union... in every state every city and small podunk town has HUD housing, food stamp and welfare recipients, farmers who get subsidies, old people on Social Security and Medicare, and on and on and on. Immediately, the Feds would cut off the funds - there would be riots, post offices shut down, old people without food and on and on. This is not the 1860s. People then could survive without Uncle Sam. For many people now, that is not possible. We are indeed slaves.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 5:50:25 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: jafojeffsurf; stylecouncilor; windcliff

“The South will rise again.”


14 posted on 11/11/2012 5:51:16 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Sub-Driver

If at first you can’t secede, try, try again!


15 posted on 11/11/2012 5:57:57 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Sub-Driver

From the source:”we petition the obama administration to:Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”

As I wrote about the Louisiana petition:

1. As far as I know, the Obama administration has no authority to “grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America government”, peacefully or otherwise.

2. I don’t see why Texas would need to create its own NEW government, unless they want to establish a monarchy or go communist or something.


16 posted on 11/11/2012 6:09:57 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Sub-Driver

it is best to let Texas go, both for the US and Texas.


17 posted on 11/11/2012 6:13:37 PM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think you better start with petitioning Austin to have Texas declare Independence.


18 posted on 11/11/2012 6:14:01 PM PST by PFC
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To: Sub-Driver; All

The Austin Liberal that Texas has in the Governors mansion will not let Texas secede....Rick Perry is a Liberal Globalist and he wants a North American Union...not an Independent Texas

No one really desiring Texas independence is going to want Perry anywhere near Texas when it happens.


19 posted on 11/11/2012 6:19:11 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Pining_4_TX

If Texas seceded the burden of no federal taxation would be an unbelievable wealth creator. Those actually needing help could get it directly from charities or churches.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 6:24:09 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nascarnation

There are better ways of letting the free market distribute medical services than with medicaid and medicare.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 6:26:01 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Wouldn't Texas be better advised to increase its regional influence and just split into 5 States like its Texas Annexation document prescribes?

10 senators, not just 2. That would shift the balance of power in the US Senate real quick.

Would balance of the influence of a Puerto Rico statehood too

FReegards!


22 posted on 11/11/2012 6:30:05 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: Olog-hai
"I think these have been set up by libs for the purpose of instigation."

Must be. only "liberals" would have such distorted understanding of the concept of secession to think it is done by asking permission.

23 posted on 11/11/2012 6:32:38 PM PST by Aarchaeus (V)
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To: central_va

Texas has 3 million on Medicare and 4.5 million on Medicaid.
Assuming the state has to pick up those costs after “secession” it’s a HUGE burden.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 6:33:17 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: nascarnation

If we were to secede, yes we would assume a huge burden in social services and debt assumed from the federal government. We would have to borrow a bundle to assume those debts. But the economic boom we would experience would be able to pay off those debts without that much trouble. People would be moving here by the droves, starting new businesses, moving businesses here, buying property, and so forth.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 6:40:57 PM PST by grumpa
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To: Pining_4_TX
Part of what you say is wrong- Social Security is paid worldwide. People on Social Security can live in Mexico or wherever they like and continue to receive their checks.
26 posted on 11/11/2012 6:46:11 PM PST by matthew fuller (God cast his early vote 10/29 in Obamaland!)
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To: NVDave

Agreed. And there’s a rash of these. I saw a petition for Alaska to leave, too.
While Puerto Rico, a likely welfare capital, has asked to become a state.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 6:57:24 PM PST by tbw2
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To: matthew fuller; central_va

Yes, under normal circumstances Social Security checks are sent anywhere. However, if a state announced it was seceding, the federal government would probably immediately cut off all checks going to that state.

Private charity could pick up the slack in time, but not soon enough to prevent widespread hardship and chaos. Modern Americans wouldn’t make it through the first 2 weeks.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: central_va
If Texas seceded the burden of no federal taxation would be an unbelievable wealth creator. Those actually needing help could get it directly from charities or churches.

Out of every tax dollar that goes to Washington, only 30% actually gets to its destination, the rest is wasted.

29 posted on 11/11/2012 8:56:55 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: Sub-Driver

as long as they take all their illegal aliens with them, fine


30 posted on 11/12/2012 1:13:50 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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