Skip to comments.Ron Paul: A New Beginning
Posted on 11/11/2012 5:29:55 PM PST by Renfield
America is over $16 trillion in debt. The official unemployment rate still hovers around 8%.
Our federal government claims the right to spy on American citizens, indefinitely detain them, and even assassinate them without trial.
Domestic drones fly over the country for civilian surveillance.
Twelve million fewer Americans voted in 2012 than in 2008, yet political pundits scratch their heads.
Its not hard to see why, though.
To go along with endorsing a never-ending policy of bailouts, stimulus packages, and foreign military adventurism, the establishment of neither major party questions the assaults on Americans liberties Ive named above.
As my campaign showed, the American people are fed up. Many realized heading into Tuesday that regardless of who won the presidential election, the status quo would be the real victor.
GOP leadership is now questioning why they didnt perform better.
Theyre looking at demographic changes in the United States and implying minorities can only be brought into the party by loudly advocating for abandoning what little remains of their limited government platform and endorsing more statist policies.
My presidential campaign proved that standing for freedom brings people together.
Liberty is popular regardless of race, religion, or creed.
As long as the GOP establishment continues to not only reject the liberty message, but actively drive away the young, diverse coalition that supports those principles, it will see results similar to Tuesdays outcome.
A renewed respect for liberty is the only way forward for the Republican Party and for our country.
I urge all my Republican colleagues to join the liberty movement in fighting for a brighter future.
Gov. Bob McDonnell? National Review’s Rich Lowry?
Because (a) they were brainwashed, or (b) they rightly determined that Mitt Romney was a fraud in what he claimed.
You must be one of the brainwashed!
You quote from the “Libertarian” platform:
“We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.”
This is EXACTLY what makes them LIBERTINE. This allows all kinds of unrestrained immoral behavior like OPEN Homoseuxality in the military, etc. etc.
Don’t invoke God, accept at your own peril. You stand judged and condemned by HIM already....you don’t have to wait until “judgement day.” Scripture is clear that such behavior is a DIRECT affront to God...and those that practice it are ALLOW it are already guilty. God ordained government to restrain such wickedness....not allow it.
Libertarians are NOT conservatives...they just share some common enemies with them and have some limited shared interests. However, Libertarians/Libertines don’t belong in the GOP. Wack job Ron Paul and his offspring (if he shares his daddy’s wacky ideas) are just a blight on the GOP. They mislead the young and naive and give aid and comfort to evil doers.
There is NO liberty in the depravity that Libertarians(libertines) will allow. Living in Sodom is not living.
It is wrong no matter which side has the power,
I also curse Bush for The Patriot Act.
“Christmas is right around the corner and I happen to like fruit cake!”
You have been drinking too much of that illegal distilled Kentucky “spring water.” Your brains are addled, and your moral judgement warped.
As disturbing as drones are, I am more concerned about the widespread surveillance society we are already steeped in. All those in favor of big gov surveillance in all its forms, please raise your right hands.
You hijacked conservative and then tell conservatives they are not conservative
Dont invoke God, accept at your own peril.
You stand judged and condemned by HIM already....you dont have to wait until judgement day.
No, I do not; He is my savior and who are you to claim any differently?
Scripture is clear that such behavior is a DIRECT affront to God...and those that practice it are ALLOW it are already guilty.
Sin itself is what makes one guilty; and if the acceptance of homosexuality by government was enough to withhold salvation from a people the Greeks wouldn't have been saved -- but there are many mentions of Greek Christians in the new testament.
The Bible is also clear that murderers are not inheritors of the kingdom of Heaven, and that the Apostle Paul considered himself a murderer -- does that mean that he had no part of the Kingdom of God?
>God ordained government to restrain such wickedness....not allow it.
God also ordained it to uphold justice -- does ours?
I contend that the best, and only lasting way to defeat homosexuality and the like is not through Law but through Jesus -- or do you wish to deny the power of God to change people?
Here is how the libertarian party rolls.
Anybody so hard left that they were of the libertarian party, is a nut case.
Libertarian Party Platform:
Throw open the borders completely and shut down the Border Patrol and INS; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through political boundaries.
Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.
Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.
Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.
Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.
Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.
Military Strength; minimal capabilities.
TV has dramatically helped to alter what is acceptable and not to the populace. A cursory view of today's cop drama shows incorporate illegally breaking into houses, torturing the accused, planting evidence, searches without warrants and other abused by Gov't.
Some might think this is merely good drama, but it does serve to obscure the lines of Constitutional protections and rights.
By in large I suspect domestic drones are not ok by the 'right'. Not by grounds of personal privacy and such, but merely because Obama is in the WH. What is acceptable or not is often skewed by who is in charge and what political party is in power.
The logical path from this to open homosexuality in the military goes through some sort of extra-dimensional worm-hole into another universe. Maybe it is LSD induced.
>You must be one of the brainwashed!
Let me put it another way: are you going to follow a guy who doesn’t believe in what he says? — if there were any undecided, they wouldn’t vot for Romney because he didn’t _believe_ in anything he said.
Mitt Romney was *never* the conservative that he fronted during the campaign, and it was obvious that the GOP-e was pushing him with the hopes that the “hold you nose and vote” Republicans would get him in office — he was never a moderate, he is and was a liberal, the GOP-e pushed him because they, too, are liberal (though they try to act differently their actions show the truth).
This is the actual, 2004 text of the Libertarian Party Platform on immigration, which is still current, and is the same as it has always been, it is their permanent position.
COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER
The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new Berlin Wall which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. governments policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.
The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.
Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.
Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.
I'm not following anybody, especially a liberty hating POS like Obama.
Mitt Romney was *never* the conservative
Is or was Obama?
the GOP-e pushed him
Pushed? After Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Pawlenty and Santorum fell by the wayside?
I didn’t say they were right on everything, nor that I agreed with them; just that Libertarian and Libertine are really two different things.
>>Mitt Romney was *never* the conservative
>Is or was Obama?
Irrelevant; there were other candidates one could vote for.
A better question is: if you are against socialism why would you vote for Romney?
>the GOP-e pushed him
>Pushed? After Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Pawlenty and Santorum fell by the wayside?
Yes. They *did* push Romney — do you remember how they retroactively changed rules for the primaries to deny Ron Paul delegates to the RNC?
Do you remember the texts of the proposed rule-changes at the RNC? Do you remember the teleprompter incident at the RNC? Do you remember the refusal to seat delegates?
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