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Hipsters on Food Stamps
http://www.salon.com ^ | MAR 15, 2010 | JENNIFER BLEYER

Posted on 11/11/2012 5:42:54 PM PST by huac

"...Gerry Mak and Sarah Magida sauntered through a small ethnic market stocked with Japanese eggplant, mint chutney and fresh turmeric...Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate...she’s used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away..."

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To: RFEngineer
Trapping Feral Pigs, and other parables of modern life (FR thread)


151 posted on 11/12/2012 4:57:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: muawiyah

I’ve got plenty of wood myself.
However, I suppose some rope might be handy in case my local lampposts have a dearth of decorations this Christmas.


152 posted on 11/12/2012 5:03:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: steve86

“...and couldn’t afford a car to get around and find bargains?”

Don’t give me that...many of these people drive a much better car than I drive, and they have the where-with-all to have fancy, $200 basketball shoes, etc. And they spend their EBT funds on many things that are not food. They have fancy watches, iphones etc.


153 posted on 11/12/2012 5:22:46 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: MrB

Definitely need rope, but those orange extension cords work well, and are the right length ~ usually.


154 posted on 11/12/2012 5:28:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Travis McGee

So, Travis, in the midst of one of our greatest droughts you imagine they don’t grow food inside the beltway? They sure ain’t growing it in Kansas either. Take a look at DROUGHT MONITOR.


155 posted on 11/12/2012 5:30:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’ll keep the 12 gauge (12/3) extension cords for other uses, but I do have some 14’s that I could spare.


156 posted on 11/12/2012 5:31:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: muawiyah
What is the point of a snapshot of this year? Do you really believe enough food is grown “inside of beltways” to support their urban populations?

Nebraska to Texas is currently in a drought, so what? Other rural areas are not. When they are, the plains will be in rain.

So, do you have other inanities to contribute?

And please be sure to provide those figures about the % of food for urban populations grown "inside the beltway."

I'm really eager to read that report.

157 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rebelbase
When the end finally comes I’ll be living off rice and beans, but the schadenfreude of watching the abusers hit bottom will make it taste like steak.

And this is why I've missed you. :)

158 posted on 11/12/2012 6:09:22 AM PST by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: muawiyah

We buy a lot of things as Aldi’s. Not only because it’s less expensive (avacadoes for $.39 versus $.99 to $1.29 elsewhere) but also many items they carry are higher quality than even available around here. Heavy whipping cream is less expensive AND less processed i.e. more real and natural than we can get anywhere else.


159 posted on 11/12/2012 6:15:47 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Too bad you didn’t push him. You’d be out of prison, by now ;)


160 posted on 11/12/2012 7:37:58 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: muawiyah

“Turns out the debts and obligations of the united states can’t be discharged in court”

Turns out you can’t get blood out of a turnip, no matter how hard you squeeze it. You can even let your lawyers squeeze it, and the result will be the same.

Let me explain it to you my package-delivering friend:

When there is no money, there is no money.

That is where we are. The rest of the world hasn’t caught up with the reality, but it’s where we are.

We’re not going to try to turn it around - because we’ve elected folks who do not care to try.

There are lots of people actually deserving of government support, such as catastrophically wounded veterans. Guess what? They are going to get cut off too when there is no money. We’ve been THAT irresponsible as a country.

What we as Americans are going to have to do is act to determine how to best distribute charity and entitlement at the local and maybe regional level.

So take your lawyers with you to your local city hall after your checks stop coming and explain to them how deserving you are. Or better yet, go to your neighbor, like you suggested, and tell HIM that you are taking his stuff, because it’s impossible for him to discharge his obligation to you in court.

There is no money. It’s not that complicated.

Just cash your entitlement checks as they come, spend them as you will, but we’re at a point where each one you get may just be the last you ever get. It can (and probably will) happen that fast whenever it happens.


161 posted on 11/12/2012 7:46:50 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: MrB

LOL


162 posted on 11/12/2012 7:54:28 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Travis McGee

Yeah, let’s see all the crops the Amish youth are growing in PG County.


163 posted on 11/12/2012 7:56:27 AM PST by dinodino
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To: huac
he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

geez louise, why should I or anyone else be constrained by a budget?

Where's my obamaphone? Why don't I have an obamaphone? < / veggietales >

164 posted on 11/12/2012 8:34:27 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi. That says it all.)
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To: momtothree
Shooting/hunting would take too much self reliance and effort.

To say nothing of requiring an icky "gun".

Though when I was about 4 years old, I remember meeting a friend of my father's who hunted rabbits with a blowgun/darts.

165 posted on 11/12/2012 8:57:31 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: muawiyah
He earned income and paid plenty of taxes for 10 years, fell on hard times, signed up for food stamps. Is it the proposal to cast this former taxpayer out on the street to starve now that we can't suck more taxes out of him?

Somehow, over the last ten years, I doubt he made a lot of income or paid much in Federal Income Taxes.

In order for him to get food without paying for it, I must pay for food without getting it.

Does that make sense?

166 posted on 11/12/2012 9:04:35 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tax-chick
I had a interview Friday for a full time job. My answer when asked "what attracts you to this job?" was "a full time paycheck".

Don't know if I will get the job but I was moved to the short list. :)

Working part time is better then no job but full time rocks!

167 posted on 11/12/2012 9:08:46 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Congratulations! I hope it turns out well for you!


168 posted on 11/12/2012 9:54:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: DuncanWaring

Given the choice between starving either of you ~~~ ?


169 posted on 11/12/2012 11:48:12 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DuncanWaring

Given the choice between starving either of you ~~~ ?


170 posted on 11/12/2012 11:48:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RFEngineer
Turns out people are putting vast storehouses of money on deposit in this country with no interest due ~ they're just trucking it in and there it is.

We also have vast amounts of resources that can be used to back the currency ~ if need be.

Never fear, as long as you have an asset to your name you can pay!

171 posted on 11/12/2012 11:50:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Travis McGee
Travis, this is one of the truly great droughts that North America has at least once within any 80 year period. The follow up is the rains return, the plains are verdant, the nut trees blosssom and breed and pine nuts scatter across the SW and Texas and other sorts elsewhere.

The ground squirrels prosper, and breed, and have vast numbers of young. Then the hanta virus spreads through the ground squirrels and begins infecting the larger mamals, including man, and entire civilizations collapse in a week with a 95% death rate.

That used to be the history of North America with this type of drought. Now we have housecats killing off those squirrels.

The last major hanta outbreak was 1646. Before that winter the Indian tribes were a power to be reckoned with in New England. After that winter the Indian tribes were a hollow shell of their previous manifestation, and began working as professional meat hunters for white people. The white folks, in fact, needed to be replenished and labor brokers became much more important than the Indians.

So, there are other places without drought ~ look at http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/12_week.gif and tell me where the Corn Belt was relocated ~ perhaps ~ that's a 12 month review BTW, so you can see how the drought grew.

172 posted on 11/12/2012 12:03:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, yeah, I know, you’d starve me, who’s not the one living high off the sweat of someone else’s brow, because I’m mean, cruel, heartless and insensitive.


173 posted on 11/12/2012 12:06:55 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: dinodino

http://www.pgplanning.org/Assets/Planning/Programs+and+Projects/Community+Plans/Subregion+6/Prince+George$!27s+County+Strategic+Program+for+Agricultural+Development.pdf ~ roughly $25 to $30 million annually ~ by 454 agricultural enterprises. Montgomery county even has substantial acreage given over to agriculture, and Howard county has Korean farmers doing the ‘close to major urban area vegetable farming’ trick. I have bokchoy grown in Montgomery county in my refrigerator.


174 posted on 11/12/2012 12:12:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: DuncanWaring

I suspect he was laid off earlier because he was the senior guy with the highest income and highest taxes. We’d have to know so I”d want yours and his tax returns available for review before I”d chose to starve either one of you.


175 posted on 11/12/2012 12:14:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You’ve got a point, for sure. But what arable land as exists is not “inside the beltway” anywhere I know.


176 posted on 11/12/2012 12:22:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
look, i'm about 1 mile South of the Beltway ~ and I can go over there and find people with HUGE GARDENS and rear lots groaning with peaches, apples and pears every year.

All of our hispanics grow peppers, and the Vietnamese grow several vegetables all the time ~ inside and outside. I have a two story greenhouse myself so if i needed i could produce pretty much everything but bananas.

Suburban neighborhoods are big into gardening ~

Tomatoes were not good this year because we had too much dry air ~ even this area was in drought much of the summer. We are DOWN half a dozen hurricanes.

177 posted on 11/12/2012 12:27:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

look, i’m about 1 mile South of the Beltway
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
After 40+ years ‘inside the Beltway’ (Annandale) the wife always had a ‘modest little garden’ etc...
BTW all - although 40+ yrs I was hardly what one would call ‘Inside the Beltway material”

Going through some of these responses etc, I got thinking
‘what would Charles Mac would have contributed to this site...<: <:’


178 posted on 11/12/2012 1:05:14 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: muawiyah

Good luck! It should be just peachy then, when all the EBT cards flash ERROR for a few weeks or for forever. Just a walk in the park, picking fresh fruit.


179 posted on 11/12/2012 1:16:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: muawiyah

I saw no indication in the article he was layed-off.

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

Odds are good I make a lot more than him.


180 posted on 11/12/2012 1:36:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: danielmryan

Bike couriers can also deduct food while between work shifts as “fuel”.


181 posted on 11/12/2012 1:52:06 PM PST by tbw2
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To: muawiyah

“Turns out people are putting vast storehouses of money on deposit in this country with no interest due ~ they’re just trucking it in and there it is.

We also have vast amounts of resources that can be used to back the currency ~ if need be.”

Ah, so in your mind, retired federal employees have first claim on any asset, public or private to pay their pensions.

I think you will find that simply is not so.


182 posted on 11/12/2012 3:09:25 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
No, not the resources themselves, although a prime spot in the best hotel at the Grand Canyon would do ~ with electricity, of course.

But you can back your currency with pledges against ASSETS.

An asset can be gold, silver, copper, oil, land, uranium, forests, water, coal, ........

Then you pay your debts with that currency.

You can even run more than one type of currency at a time ~ like they did in the early days of the republic. Computer systems are so good you no longer need a separate Federal Reserve system with a single currency. Actually, even after the Federal Reserve system was established we ran with several different kinds of currencies pledged against various things.

Currently our currency is backed by what?

183 posted on 11/12/2012 3:19:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: xrmusn

Which Charles Mac? I”ve known several ~ usually with much more in the rest of their last name.


184 posted on 11/12/2012 3:23:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“But you can back your currency with pledges against ASSETS.”

Oh, thank you very much for your helpful insight on financial matters, it really is quite interesting.

However, your point, if you were honest, is that you want to have the currency supported by whatever asset is required so that you continue to get your generous pension.

Right?

No, we save our assets for later. first we zero out all of our obligations, THEN we use the assets we have to collateralize a new currency. (This is what Greece is going to do) Perhaps they’ll let you sweep the floor of the best hotel at the Grand Canyon, in return for scavenging rights to the dumpsters.

That seems fair, no?


185 posted on 11/12/2012 3:26:37 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: muawiyah

Charlie MC
USPS
The Senators nephew or cousin whatever


186 posted on 11/12/2012 3:27:46 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: xrmusn
Senator Dodd's FIRST COUSIN ~ they are also Kennedy relatives at some remove, and Buckley cousins, and you get out to a Great Great Grandfather all of them are tied into the now deceased Gore Vidal.

They had their connections ~ Charlie was not impressed with any of his relatives but his brother who commanded a nuclear submarine ~ first and last one to ever test fire an ICBM.

What would Charlie Mac say about this? Jim's bad word editors would nail that in a second wouldn't they! The Washington Post comments board would melt down.

187 posted on 11/12/2012 3:35:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: xrmusn
There are vast stretches of Annandale where people have TWO ACRE YARDS, although that central core has a lot of 1/4 acre lots. Much of that was carved out in the 1950s ~ the soil around here tends to not perc to standards so if you wanted residential properties without sewers you absolutely had to GO BIG. That attracted gardeners, and through the early 70s there were lots of folks with 4 acre lots between Springield and Arlington/Alexandria who actually had horses. Then the county did the big territory swap with Alexandria and split along the beltway, and the horse lots were zoned out of existence.

When I moved in this development one of the neighbors in the older surrounding area still had a farm tractor ~ he ploughed hundreds of acres in the Spring ~ and harrowed in the Fall. Then he had a large earth mover and regularly hired out with residential developers to do site prep. Guy weighed about 400 pounds.

188 posted on 11/12/2012 3:41:31 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: RFEngineer
Greece is an erroneous comparison. They lost their assets to the Romans more than 2000 years ago ~ it's been just one stupid thing after another ever since then.

It was pretty obvious you needed a lesson in currency ~ so I went pretty basic. It's equally obvious you have no idea how Greece ended up where it is ~

The US Government has assets so vast you, personally, cannot imagine them. There's no excuse for them not paying their bills and backing their currency.

Any attempt to repudiate the public debt of the federal government would run afoul of the 14th amendment that says: "SECTION 4.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned "

189 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You still on the last (?) house on right pretty close to the sub station? (by close I mean within running distance - which takes more time than walking)

as to 187 OF course THAT Charlie Mc....excellent review....one of the greats, legend in his own time.

Haven’t heard from Mike “Red” R for a while but ‘Big Ed’, passed away couple of years ago.....

Back then I was “GTRB” or ‘Roadbuilder’ as per Charlie.


190 posted on 11/12/2012 3:51:22 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: muawiyah

Yes, yes, I needed to be schooled in financial responsibility, and who better than a retired federal employee to do this?

Perhaps you should organize all federal employees to simply go out and explain such financial responsibility and the obligations of the citizenry to pay such obligations such as federal pensions and healthcare benefits that the citizenry by and large do not possess themselves, in no small part due to the existence of such largesse.

“No, you don’t understand Mr. Taxpayer, you HAVE to give me, according to the 14th Amendment, first dibs on your earnings, because, you see, the government overspent, and well, things happen.”

I think if only you explained the federal retirement system to people, you might find taxpayers understand and empathize with you a little bit more about how you were guaranteed benefits and all. You can explain how YOU get their money for YOUR retirement and they have to find some other way to pay for THEIR retirement.

Then you could tell a few jokes, shoot the bull about football and all, and you’d probably have a few laughs.

I’m pretty sure that’s how it would go.


191 posted on 11/12/2012 4:41:53 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

There’s really no sense debating the situation with you. All you want to do is trash your employees ~


192 posted on 11/12/2012 5:00:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“There’s really no sense debating the situation with you. All you want to do is trash your employees ~”

No! No! please don’t go. I need more advice that only a Fed can give. Maybe hints on, say, balancing a checkbook, or how to keep a sense of entitlement in the face of financial disaster.

You know, stuff like that. I’ll just sit here waiting for your next nugget of wisdom.


193 posted on 11/12/2012 5:05:52 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Then what you need to consider is paying back the forced loan I made the government over 40 years ~ just pay it back, with interest, ...... go borrow more money!


194 posted on 11/12/2012 5:11:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Then what you need to consider is paying back the forced loan I made the government over 40 years ~ just pay it back, with interest, ...... go borrow more money!”

In the end, all ya got is Red Herrings.


195 posted on 11/12/2012 5:15:39 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

i got the 14th amendment, paid for in blood, and the very reason we have the World Reserve Currency.


196 posted on 11/12/2012 5:17:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“i got the 14th amendment, paid for in blood, and the very reason we have the World Reserve Currency.”

Yes, our heroes fought, bled, and died.....for your pension.


197 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:01 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
There it is in the Constitution. My great grandfathers, great great grandfathers, great great uncles, my cousins, thousands of relatives in large families ~ fought so that their descendants, among them ME were protected from invidious discrimination simply for doing their duty when working for the government.

Bet your family were all safe in Europe, still oppressing the peasants, looting the Jews, and cheating small landowners out of their property. Mine fought for the 14th amendment.

Some died. Many were wounded. I was assured by their grandsons the day I was inducted to the world of firearms that we were all Americans and we'd take care of our own first.

198 posted on 11/12/2012 5:31:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Ah, so people in your family actually did something, if you are telling the truth.

But not you. If your relatives weren’t dead already, they certainly would have died of shame seeing you now.

“Bet your family were all safe in Europe, still oppressing the peasants, looting the Jews, and cheating small landowners out of their property. Mine fought for the 14th amendment.”

No, that is the province of you and your ilk in the Federal Bureaucracy now.

Your relatives probably would have fought against what you represent now, and would have thought the world a better place if you were thus tyrannically demised.

“Some died. Many were wounded. I was assured by their grandsons the day I was inducted to the world of firearms that we were all Americans and we’d take care of our own first.”

I hope you didn’t shoot yourself in the foot then, like you did today.


199 posted on 11/12/2012 5:58:52 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

You revealed yourself as an anti-American today ~ not a problem for me as long as you move somewhere else ~ there are plenty of countries out there for you. maybe Paraguay


200 posted on 11/12/2012 6:01:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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