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Deadly blast devastates Indianapolis neighborhood
Yahoo News ^ | November 11, 2012 | Charles Wilson

Posted on 11/11/2012 8:35:35 PM PST by JerseyanExile

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Splintered beams and boards on a piece of charred earth were all that remained Sunday where at least two Indianapolis homes were leveled in a blast that killed two people and rendered homes for blocks uninhabitable. A backhoe raked through the rubble in the middle-class subdivision as clusters of firefighters and rescue workers weary from a long, chaotic day that began late the night before waited for their next assignment.

The two-story, brick-faced homes on either side of those demolished by the blast were ruins. One home's roof was gone, a blackened husk left behind. On the other side of the gap, the side of a home was sheared off. Across the street, garage doors had buckled from the heat.

It wasn't yet clear what caused the blast that shook the neighborhood at 11 p.m. Saturday. Residents described hearing a loud boom that blew out windows and collapsed ceilings. Some thought a plane had crashed or that it was an earthquake.

Alex Pflanzer, who was asleep when the nearby homes were leveled, said he heard his wife screaming and thought someone was breaking in his house. Grabbing his gun, he checked the house and saw the front door was standing open.

"I walked outside and all the houses were on fire," he said.

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1 posted on 11/11/2012 8:35:43 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

strange... jihadi workplace accident?

Did a Union thug see a Romney sign on the lawn?


2 posted on 11/11/2012 8:47:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JerseyanExile

Obamayouth work accident?


3 posted on 11/11/2012 8:47:46 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: JerseyanExile

I live about 2 miles from where this happened. The blast concussion ROCKED my house. I thought something had hit the house. I was panicked. Every neighbor in our subdivision came running out of their house. The blast was heard and felt 8 to 10 miles from the epicenter. They are now saying 80 homes are damaged. 14 are knocked off foundations and a complete loss. 4 are gone.

No word on the cause yet. ATF, Homeland Security, FBI and all the locals are there.

Many in that neighborhood are in my church and go to school with my kids.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 8:48:34 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Flammability limits of Methane:

4.4% to 17% by volume of air

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammability_limit

Then we have:

New London School explosion

The New London School explosion occurred on March 18, 1937, when a natural gas leak caused an explosion, destroying the London School of New London, Texas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_London_School_explosion


5 posted on 11/11/2012 8:48:57 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Meth Lab?


6 posted on 11/11/2012 8:49:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: muawiyah

Naptown ping.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 8:50:57 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: dfwgator
Meth Lab?

That is being speculated. There are some suspicious circumstances regarding the source house. It was for sale by owner. The girl that lived there with her boyfriend were out of town (still are).

The gas leak angle is starting to go stale.

8 posted on 11/11/2012 8:51:59 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: dfwgator

Natural gas. I’m sticking with it from experience.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 8:54:13 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: Tenacious 1

The gas leak angle is starting to go stale.

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Why?

We had a poster on another thread who said there as a problem with gas at that residence ...


10 posted on 11/11/2012 8:54:20 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: JerseyanExile

OBamunist playing with his drones again? He has free reign to assassinate Americans, so why not hit the Bible-toting heartland again.


11 posted on 11/11/2012 8:54:35 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: JerseyanExile

“It wasn’t yet clear what caused the blast that shook the neighborhood”

Gas?


12 posted on 11/11/2012 8:56:58 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: PA Engineer

IIRC, the gas utility has said it wasn’t a gas leak.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 8:57:28 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

“The cause of the explosion is still a mystery, 18 hours later. Authorities said they don’t have an idea of what caused it, but are not ruling anything out.

City officials estimated damage at $3.5 million. A local gas utility said an initial inspection found no gas leaks in the area.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/11/huge-explosion-in-indianapolis-still-a-mystery-18-hours-later/


14 posted on 11/11/2012 8:59:08 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Tenacious 1

“That is being speculated”

According to the Rep quoted, it’s been dismissed.

Of course, that’s just 1 man who isn’t directly involved and may have bad/misunderstood info.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 9:04:39 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: _Jim
Why?

We had a poster on another thread who said there as a problem with gas at that residence ...

Citizens gas is "still investigating" but so far has stated there is no gas leak in their system in the area and no reports of problems. I don't know what "problem with gas" they could be refering to.

The house was for sale by owner. The blast and concussion was so enormous, people are wondering why no one would have smelled the gas in the neighborhood. Some have speculated that the basement could have filled completely with gas. But after that, the odor would have been prominent in the neighborhood as the gas (heavier than air) started seeping out of the house.

I've heard (fire fighter) one person suggest that if it was a gas leak that filled the basement that fast, it would have been one hell of a leak (not a joint seeping).

BTW - Andre Carson is an ignoramous that knows nothing. Nobody even takes him serious. He thought 911 was an inside job. If he says it's sunny out I'd take an umbrella.

16 posted on 11/11/2012 9:06:21 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: ltc8k6
IIRC, the gas utility has said it wasn’t a gas leak.

Would they say otherwise? It will be headed towards litigation before the investigation is complete.
17 posted on 11/11/2012 9:06:53 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
According to the Rep quoted, it’s been dismissed.

Do a little research on Rep. Andre Carson. He's a windbag and doesn't have the brains god gave a screwdriver. Nobody takes him seriously and I doubt anyone would tell him much of what they knew.

He thought Bush knew about 911 before it happened.

I'm embarrassed that he is my rep now that they re-districted. Yuck.

18 posted on 11/11/2012 9:09:30 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: _Jim
The gas leak angle is starting to go stale.

- Why?

Oh yea, I forgot the most important part. There was a very odd "smell" thoughout the southside after the explosion and it was still lingering in the wind at 2:00AM. It was NOT the smell of natural gas and it did not have the typical "house fire" smell. It smell almost sweet, floral, but musky. (That's the best I can describe it.)

19 posted on 11/11/2012 9:12:32 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Tenacious 1

My first thought; was ‘meth lab’ or. ..suitcase bomb/or ‘some such’ in the making. (’Gas leak’ speculated; but no mention of odor of ‘gas’.) Whatever; it clearly was HUGE. Incredible.
As bad as it is; hope it was truly ‘accidental’ as to cause.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 9:13:26 PM PST by cricket (The Middle Class: Thanks to Obama; those who have not yet been 'buried'; are now; shovel ready..)
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To: Tenacious 1

Maybe somebody was making perfume.

How horrifying! I saw this story and had to look up where this occurred and then look up the addresses of all my relatives in the area. Thankfully, they are not close.


21 posted on 11/11/2012 9:20:20 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Tenacious 1
There was a very odd "smell" thoughout the southside after the explosion and it was still lingering in the wind at 2:00AM. It was NOT the smell of natural gas and it did not have the typical "house fire" smell. It smell almost sweet, floral, but musky. (That's the best I can describe it.)

Oh, missed this.. .well, that leaves out 'gas' again; (maybe?) and sweet/musky does not sound like 'fertilizer' (unless at high temps?); but 'who and whatever'? Just no connections; 'please' with Benghazi. . .

22 posted on 11/11/2012 9:22:53 PM PST by cricket (The Middle Class: Thanks to Obama; those who have not yet been 'buried'; are now; shovel ready..)
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To: JerseyanExile

Was there one explosion from one house that leveled two houses?


23 posted on 11/11/2012 9:25:36 PM PST by Terry Mross (No liberal who isn't prepared should be askin' me for help. It won't be pretty.)
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To: JerseyanExile

The neighbor said Mohamed was a very quiet guy. He was said to be meeting with his Imam over a cartoon drawn on the sidewalk when a package arrived.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 9:27:51 PM PST by chuckles
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To: JerseyanExile

The gas company may not have a leak, but that doesn’t rule out methane coming up out of the ground from a “natural” source. There is plenty of that going on around Bayou Corne, LA. The meth lab angle is possible too. BATFE should have a look at the site.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 9:32:20 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: GeronL

If it was Palie jihadis it could have been TATP.


26 posted on 11/11/2012 9:39:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: _Jim

Natural gas explosion at a strip mall - surprised no one has done any research of these ‘things’ being caught on tape as htey happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNRcuIT0J0


27 posted on 11/11/2012 9:45:48 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Some of the earliest reports from scanners in the area - who were listening because of a missing elderly man who is diabetic and without his meds - included mention of metal falling from the sky. Some even were saying that before the explosion....though that could be based on the awareness of when people felt/heard/saw some degree of explosion vs. saw debris.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 9:45:48 PM PST by mfccinsd
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To: PA Engineer

There’d really be no way to hide a big gas leak, though. The fire department’s sniffers would be going off, and everyone would smell it, too.

Of course this doesn’t mean they won’t announce tomorrow that it was a gas leak that they mysteriously couldn’t find for a few days...


29 posted on 11/11/2012 9:48:43 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: JerseyanExile

Posted for those unable to find the reference I made earlier to this post by circlecity:

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I live about 3 miles from the explosion and it certainly woke me up at 11:13 last night.

I thought someone had ran a car into the front of our home because the house shook.

My son is a nurse and one of his nurse collegues owned the house that exploded.

She had been having trouble with her gas heat all week and Citizens gas had been out working on her gas lines just three or four days before the explosion.

She was gone from home since Thursday night and not home when the explosion occured. Thus, it certainly appears to be a gas explosion.

She did, however, get a call from police asking if she had any enemies or anyone who might want to do something like this to her but I think they are just covering all the bases for the inevitable lawsuits which will be forthcoming.

39 posted on Sun Nov 11 2012 17:36:20 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by circlecity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958364/posts?q=1&;page=1


30 posted on 11/11/2012 9:50:13 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: ltc8k6

“There’d really be no way to hide a big gas leak, though.”

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Right,

See the post just above.

(What if it IS as circlecity says, and the gas leak was SOLELY inside the house? ... BOOM!)

OH YEAH .. another good -gas blast- caught on video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV4OZqSdP1U

Nah ... these things NEVER happen ... never.


31 posted on 11/11/2012 9:54:43 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: _Jim

This seems to be more powerful than a typical gas leak explosion. The only similar explosion I can remember was when there was a gas leak that ignited at a muffler shop many years ago. That was probably acetylene.


32 posted on 11/11/2012 10:02:29 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ltc8k6
There’d really be no way to hide a big gas leak, though. The fire department’s sniffers would be going off, and everyone would smell it, too.

There was gas. There was nothing holding it back after the risers were sheared in the three houses. YMHO. From many years working in failures including pipelines.
33 posted on 11/11/2012 10:03:06 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: _Jim

They happen all the time, as everyone knows.
It’s just not normally a mystery for very long.

I had an overhead gas heater develop a small manifold leak. The smell was obvious, and the gas co sniffer tracked it right down.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 10:04:31 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: JerseyanExile

Don’t try this at home - or on the streets in China:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RJCAh7jMFQ


35 posted on 11/11/2012 10:08:31 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Moonman62
This seems to be more powerful than a typical gas leak explosion.

The housing construction here was very flimsy and compact. I am not surprised. There was a picture on another thread that showed a brick home nearby. The windows and garage door were damaged. There was no structural damage. The remainder of the homes had insulation sheathing with vinyl siding.
36 posted on 11/11/2012 10:08:43 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: Moonman62

This seems to be more powerful than a typical gas leak explosion.

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‘splain yourself.

The houses across the street were not flattened, but the WOOD STICK STRUCTURES adjacent were ... (did you WATCH or view any of the vids posted above even?)

Facts, man. Give me facts, not conjecture. I can get that anywhere ...


37 posted on 11/11/2012 10:11:52 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Moonman62

There was a similar explosion around here about 15 years ago that was caused by gas, the house that blew up pretty much disintegrated and some neighbouring homes were destroyed. All of the gas was inside the house so none of the neighbours smelled anything.


38 posted on 11/11/2012 10:12:58 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Moonman62

Physics problem: work out for me, if you will, the amount of energy available for this ‘reaction’ assuming the Methane was within the Flammability limits as posted earlier and the hole is say 15’ deep by 3’ diameter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MtCg-8v9W

We will use your answer and extrapolate that to a house filled with the same Methane gas mixture ...


39 posted on 11/11/2012 10:17:10 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: PA Engineer

I meant hiding it in terms of a conspiracy to conceal the cause of the explosion to avoid liability, as was suggested.


40 posted on 11/11/2012 10:19:43 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
I meant hiding it in terms of a conspiracy to conceal the cause of the explosion to avoid liability, as was suggested.

I am getting older now. I would not answer the phone on this one.
41 posted on 11/11/2012 10:24:10 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. GOTV<GOTF)
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To: cricket

“There was a very odd “smell” thoughout the southside after the explosion and it was still lingering in the wind at 2:00AM. It was NOT the smell of natural gas and it did not have the typical “house fire” smell. It smell almost sweet, floral, but musky. (That’s the best I can describe it.)”

Nitrous Oxide has a faint sweet smell.


42 posted on 11/11/2012 10:26:48 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: _Jim
You're no fun.

I'd like to do the math.

43 posted on 11/11/2012 10:29:40 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ltc8k6

But they add Sulfur Dioxide to Nitrous Oxide these days to thwart the huffers...


44 posted on 11/11/2012 10:35:54 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Tenacious 1

I saw a pic of this Sunday AM, and my first guess was gas leak. Has this happen in my neighborhood when I was a kid and it took out 3 houses and killed 3-4. Two of the houses were leveled like some at the epicenter of this blast.


45 posted on 11/11/2012 10:36:15 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: _Jim; Moonman62

From practical experience from seeing the results, enough to level the house and have insulation falling out of the sky like snow a 1/2 mile away. See my previous post.


46 posted on 11/11/2012 10:42:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Mythbusters ignites air/Methane mixture in a confined/closed area (simulating a sewer pipe in this case); note how the pressure wave of the igniting wavefront compresses the un-ignited air on the far left as the flamefront progresses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DokeJj0pxPw


47 posted on 11/11/2012 10:43:46 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: FreedomPoster

See my post just above, re: flamefront working to compress the un-ignited air/methane mixture (as the flamefront progresses forward). These ‘ignition’ events aren’t static things (there is forward momentum, and that is imparted to debris and walls as well as the pressure factor) ...

Also, did you see the Philly explosion? What was the wind like that night? 1/2 mile is not that far for debris in wind ...


48 posted on 11/11/2012 10:47:12 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: ltc8k6
Nitrous Oxide has a faint sweet smell.

Hmmm; no laughing matter, here; for sure and 'however'. . .

49 posted on 11/11/2012 11:34:46 PM PST by cricket
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To: _Jim

Well; this may have it. Incredible the damage; whatever the case.


50 posted on 11/11/2012 11:38:49 PM PST by cricket
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