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Those Other Petraeus Emails
The American Conservative ^ | Nov. 11, 2012 | Scott McConnell

Posted on 11/11/2012 11:10:45 PM PST by olcurmudgeon

Likely we will never get to read the email exchanges between Petraeus and Paula Broadwell, but we do have these, accidentally leaked to Mondoweiss, between the celebrated general and Romney the advisor and uberhawk Max Boot. The context is that in 2010 Petraeus submitted a statement before the Senate Armed Services Committee which said that the conflict between Israel and Palestine presented challenges for America’s ability to advance its interests in the Muslim world.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; cia; maxboot; navyseals; petraeus; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi

1 posted on 11/11/2012 11:10:53 PM PST by olcurmudgeon
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine; olcurmudgeon

Oh my.


2 posted on 11/11/2012 11:13:53 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

Oh my is right.


3 posted on 11/11/2012 11:15:00 PM PST by petitfour
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To: olcurmudgeon
...which said that the conflict between Israel and Palestine presented challenges for America’s ability to advance its interests in the Muslim world.

I'm too tired to read them tonight but I sure don't like the sound of that. The Taliban is in the house!

4 posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: olcurmudgeon

Gen. P saga ping.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 11:36:42 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: olcurmudgeon

General Betray-us is Zer0’s man. Yesseree!


6 posted on 11/11/2012 11:49:38 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: TigersEye; Ernest_at_the_Beach; onyx; bitt
I'm ready to hit the rack. I wrote some long comments to you on similar posts, then deleted them before publishing. They had to do with real honor and agreeing with your statements to one FReeper as to why the good general should just march up to Congress and spill his guts on the whole deal. Honor bound.
Then we read things such as this. Funny three minutes prior to reading this I was lecturing on why the general should fall back on "Sacred Honor". Now this.
Glad I held off. But I'm still with your suggestion he should tell the miserable Administration to just fuck off and go to the House and Senate and lay out the whole deal.

If the DOD decided to refuse his pension they also at this point would be exposed as total pricks.
JimRob, if you must ban me for my thoughts. Then so be it.

We know all about the weapon transfer programs via. the CIA with the indulgence of the DOS. Charlie Wilson's War.
Things happen.
That is a fully justifiable concern on our parts. But the cover up to protect the POTUS from any wrong doing, when it most probably is all his, the black widow's (Jarrett), others within his staff, that apparently turned their backs on the whole tragedy as it played out, poor Lame was probably sobbing at her real time video on monitor as it played out. Why continue. We for the most part have it figured out.

As the good and honorable (former Marine) LT. COL. Wood said, as you re-iterate it. The Taliban is in the house.
I'm open for comments. But most of us are on board at this point in understanding the terrible dereliction of duty.
And it all points back to the White House.

Need I say more. Good morning all. Time for this old guy to hit the rack.
There are times that can try good men and women's souls. Forgive me many Freepers for the few words I could not hold back on.
7 posted on 11/12/2012 12:04:08 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: onyx

Just imagine I am psychic and just posted this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2958382/posts?page=72#72


8 posted on 11/12/2012 12:10:24 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: olcurmudgeon; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Sometimes I scare myself.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

9 posted on 11/12/2012 12:12:08 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: onyx
“Quickly came word that this banal observation might raise the ire of the Israel Lobby, which insists that no American in a responsible position ever say, or perhaps even think, that our unconditional support for an apartheid regime on the West Bank, might, just maybe, piss off other Muslims and Arabs and have a negative impact on our overall relations with that part of the world.”

Apartheid regime!

Since when is Israel an apartheid regime?

Methinks Scott McConnell is an antisemitic bigot.

10 posted on 11/12/2012 12:13:40 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

This is disheartening. It might explain why 0coward saw him as a good fit for his admin. FWIW I don’t think you said anything close to something that you would be banned for.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 12:14:59 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: All

Please see post#8


12 posted on 11/12/2012 12:16:08 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: Marine_Uncle

Ping to post #8


13 posted on 11/12/2012 12:18:25 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: Marine_Uncle

You’ll only get applause from me, no complaints. Honestly, my conflicted thoughts have very little recourse in the last few days’ events. And I more than appreciate those that can articulate them so. I wish you well, sir.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 12:33:52 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: TigersEye; MestaMachine
TE. Thanks for the support. I hate to use what many consider foul words. Yes. It is so disheartening. I hate it. I still have a wonderful nephew (former active Marine) living in some remote FOB in Afghanistan doing what he must do, in support this time primarily for the US Army. He has another ten months to go before Lord willing returning to this blessed land. It's all so very personal for me.
MM. I read your post #8. I have no problem in the least with it.

"Suppose the reason you got your job was because you had done this exact kind of op under a previous administration. You knew all the actors and all the players."

I'm with ya. I have followed things pretty closely over the years. As have many here and elsewhere. Thumbs up.
Let us pray. The good general totally bust's the kenyan's nuts on this one and his master's flossie Jarret and the rest of that evil crowd.

I'm logging out for the morning. Do all, have a blessed new day.
15 posted on 11/12/2012 12:38:15 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: SueRae
I have to give you a gentle kiss upon your fore head before I finally log out with a few seconds. You take care.

Good morning all. May your day be blessed. George
16 posted on 11/12/2012 12:41:00 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: olcurmudgeon

Gee whiz golly gee, I wonder what ole Barry’s up to these days?


17 posted on 11/12/2012 1:12:23 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: SatinDoll
McConnels is an antisemitic bigot. The "American Conservative" magazine was founded to whine that Jews stole their jobs in the Reagan Administration (the so-called neo cons).

As for Petraus, we need someone who understands Islam -- not an appeaser who blames the Jews for everything that goes on in that region or even the world at large. Gen. Petraus can take his mistress and live on an island somewhere.

18 posted on 11/12/2012 1:33:12 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: SatinDoll

The article is right about his comments being a banal observation of fact. The Isreli/Palestinian conflict complicates US relations with the Arab/Muslim world.

Whether Israel is an apartheid state is a debatable point, with the answer depending mainly on definitions. That Arabs/Muslims view it as such is just another banal recitation of reality.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 2:15:43 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: olcurmudgeon

did the dems blackmail the general?


20 posted on 11/12/2012 3:27:52 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Sherman Logan

“Banal recitation of reality”. Cute phrase.

Arabs have rights in Israel, a Hell of a lot more rights than exist in all other Arab nations combined.

Sharia is very specific: if you are not a male and Muslim, your have no rights, period, and can be killed at will.

The mere existance of Israel and the U.S.A., and our success in the world, outrages Arabs/Muslims. They have not been able to keep pace with the scientific advances of western civilization because Islam does not allow Free Will, very important for discoveries and experimentation.

Frankly I do not care about much of the Middle East outside of Israel, and would prefer our nation withdraw from having anything to do with Islamic dominated nations.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 3:49:29 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: TigersEye
OMG!! The Taliban is in the house!!!!

Thank you, Eric Nordstrom for this VITAL info.....the Taliban is in our GOVERNMENT!

22 posted on 11/12/2012 4:03:42 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: MestaMachine
Sometimes I scare myself.

You are doing good, I pray, Mesta?
Mother Mary sends a message.
Be sure to sleep some.

23 posted on 11/12/2012 4:21:34 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

A Salute to you and yours, Sir.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 4:24:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MestaMachine
Plausible.
25 posted on 11/12/2012 4:32:16 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Yehuda

jihad is being waged right here, right now, from the inner sanctum of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Why there is still doubt in anyone’s mind us beyond my ability to explain.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 5:35:29 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: MestaMachine

Please, add me to the ping list. This is getting more troubling by the day.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 8:45:19 AM PST by jacquej
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To: Marine_Uncle
I hate to use what many consider foul words.

I didn't even notice that. I thought you were referring to the content. I guess we know what kind of language is passe to me now. LOL

I understand how personal this is to you. The similarity between your nephew's MOS and Woods' and Doherty's is very close. I think this whole situation strikes very close to home for a lot of vets and vets' families. A lot of State Dept. and CIA personnel and their families too. That may be the catalyst that keeps this from being swept under the rug.

30 posted on 11/12/2012 11:34:46 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I think you’re spot on. God bless and keep you and your hero nephew. I know it’s personal for you. My eldest grandson is a US Marine Reserve, and thank God, he’s in school at a university.

Gen P. has one chance to right the wrongs. FWIW, I think he resigned because he was unwilling to commit perjury.

Before his scheduled testimony, an outline of his testimony had to be submitted to the Marxist for review. Obviously, it didn’t please Jarrett and the Marxist, so he resigned.

I’m not sure we’ll ever hear from him again, unless wife Holly tells him to “buck up or man up,” and reminds him of “honor, duty, country,” given that the military has been her whole life.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 11:46:46 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: MestaMachine

Sounds like a script to a bad movie that went wrong!


32 posted on 11/12/2012 11:56:46 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SatinDoll
Since when is Israel an apartheid regime?

Methinks Scott McConnell is an antisemitic bigot.

Outrageous to call Israel an apartheid regime! Might as well call the US the same because the Marxist sees us that way.

You're right about that guy.

33 posted on 11/12/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sherman Logan
Whether Israel is an apartheid state is a debatable point, ...

Only to idiots and Muslim propagandists.

34 posted on 11/12/2012 12:16:19 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Sherman Logan

Considering there’s a minaret in EVERY Israeli city, town and village and thousands of Palestinians cross the border EVERYDAY to work in Israel, its ABSURD to even coddle a discussion of “apartheid”. The Palestinians know they are not “occupied”, its the idiots who have never been there and listen to the Left who believe it.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 12:26:07 PM PST by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: no-to-illegals

And HIS best to you and yours. I did not serve in uniform, only the uncle of one who has, still does out of uniform.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 12:39:17 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: TigersEye

I believe your statements would go UN-challenged. And far one hell of a lot of staunch American citizens who value life, and what so many of our military folk, and citizen soldiers go through. Sometimes 24/24 in foreign lands.


37 posted on 11/12/2012 12:44:55 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: onyx
Firstly. I stand at attention and salute your grandson. HIS almighty HAND be upon him as he serves his country with honor.
I would second your statements. There probably quite accurate in the whole. As for Holly Petraeus, I can see her demanding of her hubby what you wrote. She is as big a loser in this sad affair as much as him.
The stink that permeates Washington D.C. is beyond my grasp. I do hope the good General has sent a number of detailed letters to a number of Senators and Representatives, and others at this point in time. You take care Onyx.
38 posted on 11/12/2012 1:02:30 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thanks very much, dearest you. I’m very sorry my grandson saw fit to enlist under the Marxist, but he did it regardless and he loves the Corps. We can only pray for them and I mean for all of them, and I do, faithfully. I want our brave heroes out of that Afghanistan hell hole ASAP.

I’m sick of this Petraeus story and he’s the only one who can put it to rest or give fuel to get the impeachment proceedings started. I much prefer the latter, which I believe we know to be the truth.

God bless you, dearest patriot and cherished friend.


39 posted on 11/12/2012 1:27:58 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

I have very similar feelings regarding our men and women in Afghanistan. And I am also rather sick of the Petraeus story, as well. It was a clever divergent scheme to keep the issue cloudy regarding who was responsible for the deaths of four Americans. God keep you and yours, strong and healthy.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 1:56:00 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Yep... this is still all about Benghazi and I’m sick of the distraction. We’ll keep praying, (((((Marine_Uncle)))))


41 posted on 11/12/2012 2:00:27 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

HIS Hand is in all things. Perhaps HE shall find favor in your and others’ prayers over this matter.


42 posted on 11/12/2012 2:05:10 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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