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The Fall of Petraeus: A CIA Coup?
The American Conservative ^ | Nov. 11, 2012 | Philip Giraldi

Posted on 11/12/2012 1:34:50 AM PST by olcurmudgeon

It now seems clear what occurred to bring down CIA Director David Petraeus: some months ago his paramour Paula Broadwell sent threatening emails to another woman warning her to keep away from Petraeus, seemingly unaware that computers and emails have signatures that can be identified by investigators. The woman, identified by the Associated Press as Jill Kelley, became alarmed over being threatened and notified the FBI, which got into the emails to discover that there was an affair in progress, leading to an investigation of Petraeus to determine if any classifed information had been leaked. Broadwell was subsequently interviewed by FBI agents, as was Petraeus two weeks ago. The Justice Department informed Director of National Intelligence James Clapper about the affair on election night, which led to a phone call to Petraeus. Clapper recommended that he resign and informed the White House. Petraeus met with the president on Thursday and submitted his resignation, which was accepted on Friday.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bhocia; broadwell; cia; coup; giraldi; navyseals; petraeus; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi

1 posted on 11/12/2012 1:35:02 AM PST by olcurmudgeon
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To: olcurmudgeon
What the House needs to do next (as the Senate never will) is to call FBI Director Mueller (and in an open session as this would not be considered as testifying to anything which could be construed as "classified") and grill his butt as to who knew what (and was informed thereof) and WHEN.

There were unconfirmed reports on Sat that some agents within the Bureau were pissed because this was known to the White Hut and deliberately sat on (inferring collusion between the Feebs and the Regime) until after the election.

2 posted on 11/12/2012 1:51:14 AM PST by neveralib
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To: olcurmudgeon

If Obama allows the White House to run so that he doesn’t even know when there is overwhelming FBI evidence of his CIA director’s involvement in an affair, then Obama has no business in our White House (okay, Obama generally has no business in any position of responsibility, but this is yet more evidence). If Obama knew and allowed a compromised CIA director to remain in the position until after the election for political reasons, then again Obama has no business in office. Every rational explanation for this sequence of events is more proof that Obama should not be in our White House. Sadly, there are no honest or objective Americans on the other side of the aisle.

Obama will not be impeached and removed from office because the Democrats are too corrupt to protect our country. It’s a shame too; America was a beautiful idea while it lasted.


3 posted on 11/12/2012 1:58:57 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1

“Obama will not be impeached and removed from office”
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In another four years, America will be so far gone, Obumbo will become Commissar for life.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 2:16:31 AM PST by AlexW
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To: olcurmudgeon; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
"It now seems clear what occurred to bring down CIA Director David Petraeus: some months ago his paramour Paula Broadwell sent threatening emails to another woman warning her to keep away from Petraeus, seemingly unaware that computers and emails have signatures that can be identified by investigators."

Yep. Clear as mud. A four star general using gmail. For official business.
Riiiggghhhttt.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


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5 posted on 11/12/2012 2:16:46 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: olcurmudgeon; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
"It now seems clear what occurred to bring down CIA Director David Petraeus: some months ago his paramour Paula Broadwell sent threatening emails to another woman warning her to keep away from Petraeus, seemingly unaware that computers and emails have signatures that can be identified by investigators."

Yep. Clear as mud. A four star general using gmail. For official business.
Riiiggghhhttt.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

6 posted on 11/12/2012 2:17:49 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: olcurmudgeon
As I understand it, the General received treatment for prostate cancer. Was he capable of having an affair other than platonic? I raise this question since I am a prostate cancer survivor.
7 posted on 11/12/2012 2:18:43 AM PST by cannonball
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Oh, blankety blank! I try to avoid those double thingys.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 2:20:30 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: Pollster1
"Obama will not be impeached and removed from office because the Democrats are too corrupt to protect our country. It’s a shame too; America was a beautiful idea while it lasted.

I agree but will add that we have way too many RINOS and that is why nothing will be done. . . . . ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
A few hearings don't count and won't cut it. . . .
Weepy sure as hell won't do anything

9 posted on 11/12/2012 2:21:54 AM PST by DeaconRed ("Don't Dream, It's Over" - Crowded House - Best describes our current situation. . . . . .)
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To: olcurmudgeon

The Petraeus sex scandal has done a good job of keeping questions related to Obama’s handling of Benghazi off the front pages - hasn’t it?


10 posted on 11/12/2012 2:36:33 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: MestaMachine

“Broadwell was subsequently interviewed by FBI agents, as was Petraeus two weeks ago.”

Where does this fall into the timeline of Broadwell’s Oct. 26 speech, the CIA’s Oct. 26 statement, and when Cantor was tipped off in late October?


11 posted on 11/12/2012 2:42:26 AM PST by maggief
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To: olcurmudgeon; All

If the GOP-run House is not Impeaching Obama over this (and Benghazi)...then it is certain that the GOP is actively assisting Obama, and knew about this before the election

I find it hard that an investigation of the person running the CIA has been unknown to the GOP-run House for 4 months. Even if Obama Admin does not tell them....someone aware of the investigation will tip off the House.

The GOP is either helping Obama, or, they have to be the dumbest bunch of rocks around...nothing is ever kept quiet in DC


12 posted on 11/12/2012 2:49:08 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Iron Munro; All

The Petraeus sex scandal has done a good job of keeping questions related to Obama’s handling of Benghazi off the front pages - hasn’t it?


You win the 100% Correct Award for today....yes Exactly, kept Benghazi off front pages


13 posted on 11/12/2012 2:51:49 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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http://www.wdbj7.com/news/sns-rt-us-cia-petraeus-timelinebre8ab01g-20121111,0,3964365.story

Week of October 21: Federal investigators interview Broadwell.

Week of October 28: Federal investigators interview Petraeus. Prosecutors conclude afterward they likely will not bring criminal charges.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 2:56:34 AM PST by maggief
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To: Iron Munro

First it was Hurricane Sandy and now its Her-i-cane Petraues. The media wouldn’t cover Benghazi, but they sure are front and center with a sex scandal. Dead Americans apparently, aren’t as interesting or as newsworthy as adultery. The MSM has its priorities, ya know? Their daily talking points come from the WH anyway, so they will speechify whatever the obummer administration tells them to.


15 posted on 11/12/2012 3:04:33 AM PST by Catsrus
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To: maggief

I guess the Bill Clinton gambit wasn’t operative in this situation? You remember? Privately offer the offended woman all sorts of career enhancers (while having your surrogates issue thinly veiled public threats) while you “Deny, Deny, Deny”!

What a sorry double-standard state we live in.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 3:31:22 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Iron Munro
The Petraeus sex scandal has done a good job of keeping questions related to Obama’s handling of Benghazi off the front pages - hasn’t it?

Yup, but that was the intention all along I'm sure.

Just out of curiosity , and I throw this question out to anyone on the forum, why is the Petraeus "affair" such a huge deal in the press, but when Willie was in the White House sex was "a private matter"? Seems like it's the same crew taking opposite positions.

17 posted on 11/12/2012 3:36:41 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: maggief

Looks to me like they wanted Cantor, a Republican, to jump right out there with this cover story. WH hands stay clean. Looks like a political attack on poor petraeus from the Republicans. Cantor did not do what they expected.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 3:42:32 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: YankeeReb

Because petraeus coverage gives obama cover and when that happens, you can be darn sure he is up to no good.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 3:45:05 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: YankeeReb
Just out of curiosity , and I throw this question out to anyone on the forum, why is the Petraeus "affair" such a huge deal in the press, but when Willie was in the White House sex was "a private matter"? Seems like it's the same crew taking opposite positions.

First rule of political reporting: Follow the money.

Second rule of political reporting: Whose ox is gored?

Third rule of political reporting: Why should we care?

This is an application of the Second Rule with a special twist on the Third Rule.

20 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:26 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Iron Munro

This scandle stops the talk of VOTER FRAUD in the presidencial election.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 3:47:37 AM PST by ronnie raygun (BB)
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To: neveralib

AMEN....Mueller needs to be subpoeaned and testify to what he knew when about this and BEN GHAZI!


22 posted on 11/12/2012 3:48:56 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cannonball
Relationships can be romantic without being sexual, and that may have been the case with Petraeus and this woman. However, I doubt either party is going to raise the “we-made-out-but-didn't-go-all-the-way” defense!
23 posted on 11/12/2012 4:08:33 AM PST by utahagen
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To: MestaMachine

Fox news had pictures and the name of the “other”, “other” woman that started the investigation. Surprised nothing on FR about that this AM. Also mentioned that Paula denies sending emails. Leaks from everywhere, conflicting info.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 4:12:08 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

Monday, November 12, 2012 7:29:32 AM · 78 of 78
MestaMachine to 9YearLurker

petraeus is a strategist. THIS is an exit strategy. Tell my wife “They are out to get me.”
Have her consent to do whatever he needs to do to extract himself. They are ALL friends. Everyone involved in this knows everyone else.
These emails are done from a gmail account for G-d’s sake. So one family ‘friend’ complains to the FBI about ‘harrassing’ emails. Whoa. Then he outs his so-called mistress who is ALSO a family friend. Whoa. And then it turns out that thousands? of emails are sent from this account? Thousands? Really?
But it doesn’t end there. No. Suddenly we are told that well, maybe these so-called harrassing emails weren’t sent by that nasty mistress homewrecker after all. OOOOOO. Poor petraeus looks like he is being set up. He needs ‘time’ to fix his broken life. Awww. Pity the fool.
G-d love a duck, y’all. This is a script.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 4:34:04 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: utahagen
You did notice that I mentioned Platonic? The appearance of a sexual relationship is headline grabbing. This whole episode appears to be tailored to attract attention an opposed to solving a problem. Something is being covered up.
26 posted on 11/12/2012 4:47:10 AM PST by cannonball
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To: MestaMachine

Hillary is nowhere to be found. State blames all this on CIA. She comes out clean. An offer has been made to a couple of key Obama supporters to make him look like an idiot. They get through the next few months. Biden has health issues or “else”. Hillary becomes Vice President. THEN the SHTF and Obama is impeached. Hillary becomes President before the next elections.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 4:55:46 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: MestaMachine

Yep. Clear as mud. A four star general using gmail. For official business.
Riiiggghhhttt.


Using Gmail. Check.

For official business? No - for carrying out an affair with Broadwell from the looks of things.

Obviously a lack of judgement but the goal here was to use the Gmail account for business that was very much *unofficial* as I read it.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 4:56:09 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: MestaMachine
"Looks to me like they wanted Cantor, a Republican, to jump right out there with this cover story. WH hands stay clean. Looks like a political attack on poor petraeus from the Republicans. Cantor did not do what they expected."

Very insightful, thanks (assuming you aren't Cantor)

29 posted on 11/12/2012 5:30:17 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: olcurmudgeon

“seemingly unaware that computers and emails have signatures that can be identified by investigators.”

Oh, please. I was a lowly secretary and have always known that emails can always be traced. I believe that this broad went to West Point and is/was an “anti-terrorism professional” And she didn’t know? Who’s buying that?


30 posted on 11/12/2012 5:40:10 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: cannonball
You bring up an excellent point. Most men the General’s age who have prostrate cancer surgery find their ability to perform sexually gone or diminished.

Interestingly enough we can throw flames at the General for having a relationship with a woman when he is thousands of miles from home for extended periods of time yet we give a pass to some of Republican, Conservative Leaders who have had affairs while married and living the good life in DC.

I'm not condoning, I just sayin.

31 posted on 11/12/2012 6:31:01 AM PST by not2worry ( NO MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: cannonball

You should know far better than I that there are prostate cancer treatments that do not result in impotence.

Too many types and variations of prostate cancer.

But then I am not a physician and do not play one on TV.

Seems clear at this point that the relationship was sexual...


32 posted on 11/12/2012 7:42:11 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: not2worry
Has Petraeus had prostate cancer surgery? I had not heard that anywhere.

He probably was corrupted by the insidious lyrics of a Crosby, Stills and Nash song he heard as a teeneager: "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with."

33 posted on 11/12/2012 8:23:02 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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