Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What Went Wrong Last Tuesday
Townhall.com ^ | November 12, 2012 | Star Parker

Posted on 11/12/2012 4:33:28 AM PST by Kaslin

Disbelief is the word that defines the Republican state of mind in the wake of the 2012 re-election of President Barack Obama.

The obvious questions are: “How can Americans have re-elected a president who has presided over an economy where unemployment still hovers at 8 percent ?”

And, “How can Americans have re-elected a president who still doesn’t grasp that his big government policies are what have blocked our economic recovery?”

The Republican Party needs to take responsibility for this disaster.

Nothing in the outcome of this election is a surprise. The realities which produced these election results have been looming before us not for months, but for years.

Yet Republicans have made a point of ignoring it all. Now, “the chickens have come home to roost.”

What are these realities?

The profound changing demographics of the nation. And, the challenge of getting a nation that is already addicted to government off it.

I wrote last April regarding an analysis done by Ron Brownstein in National Journal: “Brownstein estimates that Barack Obama could be re-elected with as little as 39 percent of the white vote. He notes that in 2008, when Obama was elected with just 43 percent of the white vote, it was the first time ever that a presidential candidate was victorious with double digit losses of white voters.”

In a column I wrote a month ago, I noted: “What was once the exception to the rule in America – not being white, not being married, not have traditional views on family, sex, and abortion – is becoming the rule. And these constituencies are becoming sufficiently large to elect a president.”

A nation doesn’t change overnight. Yet, Republicans have been in chronic denial about what has been happening.

Ironically, the Republican political establishment, and particularly this year’s candidate Mitt Romney, presented themselves as the party of businessmen who know how economies work.

Well, businessmen pay attention to their markets. They make sure they understand their product and present it clearly and that they stay attuned to their customer base.

Republican Party operatives ignored both -clear definition of their product and savvy marketing to a diverse base of customers.

Instead, they chose wishful thinking. Simply hope that more and more white voters will turn out and vote Republican to make up for their shrinking part of the electorate.

When polls showed what was really happening, these same Republican operatives chose to deny them too, charging they were biased.

We can win our country back.

Low and middle-income blacks and Latinos are hurt disproportionately by a sluggish economy that can only be revived by less government spending and regulation, and low taxes. They just need someone to care to focus on their communities and explain these dynamics to them.

They need to get their kids out of public schools, a cause which only conservatives champion.

And they need to understand that they have everything to gain by getting out of the entitlement programs that the left tells them they need.

The last thing low-income earners need is to pay payroll taxes when they could save this money and build wealth. And the last thing they need is government bureaucrats running their health care.

When the only message blacks and Latinos get is from left wing politicians and media telling them they need government to take care of them, what can we expect but what we just saw in this election?

Business is also about knowing that there is no short cut around hard work.

Republicans must do more than showcase a few black and brown faces at their convention every four years and call this outreach.

Conservatives must get into black and Latino communities, talk to their clergy and community leaders, and explain how conservative policies of limited government and traditional values will save their communities and our nation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012analysis; 2012electionanalysis; blackcommies; blackcommunity; blackvote; blackvoters; blame; gop; latinovote; romney2012; starparker
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-62 next last

1 posted on 11/12/2012 4:33:38 AM PST by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

FRAUD


2 posted on 11/12/2012 4:38:25 AM PST by GilGil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GilGil

FRAUD

and STUPIDITY


3 posted on 11/12/2012 4:40:41 AM PST by Paisan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Normalcy Bias

I think that near the end, Obama was the only one honestly facing reality.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 4:41:38 AM PST by Safrguns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin; All

ENOUGH with the navel-gazing already. Suck it up, Buttercup!

Well, that’s what I keep TELLING myself. It ain’t helpin’, but that’s what I keep telling myself...LOL!


5 posted on 11/12/2012 4:43:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

And, “How can Americans have re-elected a president who still doesn’t grasp that his big government policies are what have blocked our economic recovery?”

Does anyone really believe Obama wants an economic recovery? I sure don’t.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 4:44:30 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns

“0bama was the only one honestly facing reality.”

Hence the tears... ;)


7 posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:13 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

It is not impossible. I met a white congressman from a district in IL who said his district was majority D and 40% black and he won reelection (2 years ago, having been elected in 2008 I think) with 56%. He said he went to every black church and every union hall and asked for their votes. He said he got some, but the most important thing was that they told him it was the first time ANY Republican had asked for their vote. He implied that he got more the second time around.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:39 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Every time I saw Romney at a campaign appearance, there were nothing but white faces behind him. That was just dumb. Bus them in like Obama does.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:59 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

>>> Hence the tears... ;)

Exactly...

And with all of his other schemes going so horribly wrong so far this year (Bengazi?), I suspect that he completely lost confidence in what we KNOW happened on election night.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 4:51:23 AM PST by Safrguns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

EVIL WON! Plus VOTE FRAUD!


11 posted on 11/12/2012 4:54:48 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns

I truly believe 0bama thought he was going to lose, then take all of his marbles and move to Hawaii for the cushy remainder of his life.

While I’m glad to see him suffer this huge set-back, I’m deeply saddened for America.

I’ll be OK. It’s the REST of the loser schmucks in our country that are going to be causing us a lot of headaches. ;)


12 posted on 11/12/2012 4:56:40 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

bump


13 posted on 11/12/2012 4:57:50 AM PST by foreverfree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
Well both Romney and Obama are big government guys and a good portion of us who want smaller goverment, so we sat this one out.

Plain and Simple...

14 posted on 11/12/2012 5:01:18 AM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave; sickoflibs; Condor51; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; GOPJ; ...
It's becoming crystal clear why Obama seemingly "screwed-up" at the crucial first prez debate---giving Romney a huge opening (or so it seemed).

O's debate screwup was no accident. Canny Obama and his cunning, sinister crew knew then that O would win...... no matter what Romney did or said. B/c the WH orders had already gone out----their massive voter fraud operation was already in place.

=====================================================

REFERENCE mark o'malley excerpt: Every campaign, of course, believes it’s going to win. Obama’s team, however, conveys such a visceral sense of self-confidence that even protestations to the contrary take on air of comically profane absurdity......

Here's....Axelrod’s understated way of saying that he thinks the election is already over. . .

“The (Romney camp has) this fantasy that the debates will come and the dam will break like it did in 1980,” Axelrod said. “I think they are delusional.”

===================================================

Clearly the sinister Axelrod knew the outcome even before the debates began.

Axelrod: “The (Romney camp) didn’t give people anything to grab on to, and they allowed us to define him before he could define himself,” Axelrod says of Romney.

SAY WHAT? Early on, O's campaign spent an astounding $300 million to tarnish Bain/Romney-----with little or no effect. Romney kept climbing in the polls----virtually every poll had Romney ahead.

Make no mistake---massive voter fraud took place---the Ohaha connivers were confident of victory b/c they were micromanaging the fraud from Day One.

15 posted on 11/12/2012 5:03:02 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: GilGil

The Obama Campaign demonstrated an such arrogance even in the face of Romney’s surging poll numbers, I suspected all along the election was rigged. The fix was in. Electronic voter fraud can make millions of votes appear, disappear, and reappear. The low-tech bus and stuff techniques were all the rage this year too but Ohio, Virginia and Florida did not shift 7 points in the polls because of Acorn. Crossroads and other PACS should fund a nationwide, independent investigation into voter fraud: interview every poll worker, election officer, voting machine operator and vendor, trace invoices, communications, seek injunctions and refer for prosecution. Anything less invites the same.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 5:04:10 AM PST by SC_Pete
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

The Republican pundants (Hannity/Palin/many others) talked every opportunity about “Obama’s failed policies”. Instead they should have recognized his “failed policies” as not failing at all, but were planned and are very successful in bringing this country to it’s knees. When every EPA reguletion is aimed at killing off business as well as the NLRB, OSHS, MSHA etc. DOE has, and continues to indoctrinate our children. The Obamacare costs are going to bring financial ruin. DHS is buying guns and ammo by the millions of rounds to make sure of killing off the opposition. So ask yourself....Have his policies failed? We will see very soon. Stupid RINOS let it happen right under their noses!


17 posted on 11/12/2012 5:04:33 AM PST by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer; The Mayor; Sun; Salvation
THE OBAMA WRAP With the flawed admin of Ohaha, America has witnessed the consequences of a generation inculcated with moral relativity and situation ethics. They clearly see themselves as "deconstructionists"----savagely committed to tearing down America's traditions.

Every manaical official govt act is dedicated to chipping away at the bulwark of American freedoms.

They are a virulent anti-American plague of religion haters.......vacant, surly Me-First humanoids who worship at The Church of Whatever Works For Me.

Cadres of self-absorbed punks squatting in govt are clearly disturbed---obsessed with religious cleansing and kicking so/con Repubs to the curb.

The Ohaha savages duped the citizenry, led us over a multi-trillion dollar deficit cliff, into massive corrupt bailouts, and atrocities like amnesty.

Their motto: "Everything For Us--Nothing For You."

That same generation inculcated with moral relativity and situation ethics has segued into The Entitlement Generation---better known as "Pay Me--I'm a Victim.

We need to remember that the Obamanoids are ruthless predators w/ no empathy for others and no remorse, anti-social psychopaths who recognize no moral boundaries--aggressively going after what they want, irregardless of the consequences to others.

These people are even scarier in triumph, when they've clearly mocked democracy and stolen the election

===========================================

Paraphrasing Saul Alinsky----the author of evil anti-religious satanism......"they do not have a fixed truth -- truth to them is relative and changing..... they are free from the shackles of dogma."

18 posted on 11/12/2012 5:05:06 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Maybe they cheated!


19 posted on 11/12/2012 5:05:33 AM PST by McGruff (No New RINOs!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Nothing went wrong.

The plan to steal the election worked perfectly

To take the blame is to become a bigger loser


20 posted on 11/12/2012 5:05:44 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ann Archy

>>> EVIL WON! Plus VOTE FRAUD!

I’m not so sure about that yet... the winning part anyway.

I don’t think this nation can survive this if it continues... even through the end of this year.

When people like Boehner finally wake up (and he hasn’t yet), and smell the burning roses, they will consider taking actions that they have been afraid to do all along.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 5:06:32 AM PST by Safrguns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

What went wrong?
The Republicans nominated a guy that lost to McCain who had lost to Obama! (Like Dole lost to Bush and ran against Clinton in 1996!) Does anyone beside me see a pattern here that indicate stupidity reigns?


22 posted on 11/12/2012 5:17:06 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
“Conservatives must get into black and Latino communities, talk to their clergy and community leaders, and explain how conservative policies of limited government and traditional values will save their communities and our nation.”

That is impossible when you are dealing with an electorate so stupid that they will vote for a corrupt candidate with room temp IQ that will rob them blind, as long as they are black.

Detoilet is a great example.

23 posted on 11/12/2012 5:23:31 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin; All

Oh no...another “Changing Demographics Liberal”. Good Grief...these people are helping the Biden 2016 campaign already

Five real reasons Romney lost:

1. Liberals/moderate GOP cannot beat Dems

2. Free Trade...Obama hammered Romney/Bain outsourcing...winning Midwestern white “Reagan Democrat” voters. GOP needs to dump Free Trade liberalism

3. ObamaCare/RomneyCare...”My socialized medicine is better than yours”. “No it isn’t”

4. Obama Eligibility...attacking the “Birthers” for the past 4 years...you bet a few of them stayed home...thanks Hannity, Levin, Coulter, Malkin, etc...

5. Illegal Alien Amnesty keeps Conservatives home...and Hispanics still will not vote GOP...McCain won 31% of Hisp vote in 08..Romney 27% in 12


24 posted on 11/12/2012 5:26:28 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Insanity is ever believeing Karl Rove is a conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz; Impy; AuntB; PhilCollins; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; ...
RE :”It's becoming crystal clear why Obama seemingly “screwed-up” at the crucial first prez debate-—giving Romney a huge opening (or so it seemed).
O’s debate screwup was no accident. Canny Obama and his cunning, sinister crew knew then that O would win...... no matter what Romney did or said. B/c the WH orders had already gone out——their massive voter fraud operation was already in place...”

My theory on this one is that O threw the first debate on purpose acting passive and not challenging Mitt and letting him dominate the stage, and it really looked good for Mitt at the time a clear win.
Why?? Because prior to that debate expectations were low for Mitt and high for O based on polling and O being the more well known POTUS. So Romney only had to hold his own to look good anyway.
So by O holding back in the the first debate the expectations for the following debates were more balanced, and then Obama went on the offensive putting Romney on the defensive in a number of cases.

Example : If you recall Romney said he was for a ‘path to citizenship’ in one of those last two debates. That was a defensive move and as you see it didnt get him any Hispanic votes,.

remember Romney dropped the whole Benghazi issue after the second debate, I posted here at the time I thought that was a mistake.

25 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: GilGil

Think about this for a minute: the Princeton Election Consortium - which aggregates all polling - has accurately called the last three electrons – and this time around, the predictions were dead accurate.

The polling showed how people *said* they would vote, and the actual returns show how they *actually voted*.

If there had been vote fraud on a scale sufficient to swing the election, the stolen votes would *have* to be evident as a difference between the intended and actual vote.

There is no such difference. (This is not to say there was “no fraud”, but rather that “fraud was not sufficient to change the outcome).

Now, there is no harm in ignoring this evidence, if it makes someone feel better.

But there is a lot of harm done if the belief causes someone to believe that they will get a different result by doing the same thing next time, if only they can eliminate “voter fraud”.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:22 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (million)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ilovesarah2012

Romney could not and would not articulate how dangerous a second term of BO would be to our county. He refused to tell the country how utterly corrupt the BO administration is and give detailed examples. This should have been done over and over. To heck with what the press would have said, he lost anyway, but exposing BO for the danger he is would have helped. He went John McCain on us which is what we all feared and we lost again by playing nice against a pathological liar and totally corrupt man. BO basically just got out there and called Mitt a liar and everyone believed him. Mitt let the evil roll all over him and he lost without fighting back.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 6:06:59 AM PST by dandiegirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dandiegirl

Absolutely. Romney is not a fighter. Allen West is.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 6:08:13 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy

I agree that illegal aliens should have a path to citizenship. The path would require them to return to their native countries and come to the U.S., legally. If Romney said that, he would have received more votes from conservatives.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 6:12:25 AM PST by PhilCollins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: M. Dodge Thomas

At least in Allen West’s case it lookd like ffffrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuud!


30 posted on 11/12/2012 6:25:20 AM PST by GilGil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Ms Parker:

With respect, your black brethern and his ilk performed one of the highest examples of voter fraud ever seen in the USA.

This kind of fraud occurs in N Korea, Venezuela, and old Iraq.

It does not belong in America.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 6:50:18 AM PST by ridesthemiles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

BHO is The Prince of Fools


32 posted on 11/12/2012 2:32:49 PM PST by two23
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz; GilGil; Paisan; Safrguns; Diana in Wisconsin; patriot08; Reaganite Republican; ...
Agree with your conclusion, Liz, that the Obamatons knew that they held a trump card from the get-go with their massive fraud and cheating operations, including hacking the electronic vote counting devices in key counties in the swing states. And yes, that's why they were so darn cocky all through the campaign. After all, they were experienced at it, having used very similar shenanigans back in 2008 - although they probably would have squeaked through vs. McCain even if (hypothetically) things were pretty much clean. (Of course, no one in law enforcement had the guts to arrest and prosecute the sleazy perps of the fraud back then because the GOP acquiesced to it.)

For that very reason, the Romney campaign and the RNC should have been much more alert beforehand and should have drawn up some substantive vote integrity plan to combat the criminal corruption of the electoral process. In doing so, they could have used some assets unavailable to the GOP in 2008, like more GOP state administrations, attorneys general, and state secretaries of state in the targeted swing states.

But I don't think Zero "took a dive" in the first debate intentionally. He could have been overconfident or even under the influence of a drug or drugs. His poor performance that night did nothing to help his chances. But as it turned out, it didn't destroy his chances as it should have if the electoral procedure was reasonably honest and aboveboard.

33 posted on 11/12/2012 6:41:48 PM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 8:11:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93
We've seen some pretty shady characters in the political game---but no campaign has produced the likes of the Chi/Mob con artists running Ohaha's sleazy game.

David Axelrod has shown himself to be The Most Sinister Character ever to surface in politics.

Axel, Valerie whatsherface, Rahm Emanuel, m/m Ohaha---are the kingpins of crooked Chi/politics---they are very practiced at fixing elections. They know all the sleazy tricks. It makes me laugh when these con artists pop up on-camera doing their "we're harmless" act.

===============================================

You are right on target---all the crucial swing states have Repub Secy's of State---they could have easily found the voter fraud.

Romney should not have conceded---he remained duped and sap-happy til the end......like McDumbo/McCain.

35 posted on 11/13/2012 3:00:07 AM PST by Liz ("Come quickly, I'm tasting the stars," Dom Perignon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93
(Of course, no one in law enforcement had the guts to arrest and prosecute the sleazy perps of the fraud back then because the GOP acquiesced to it.)

The Milwaukee PD Task Force whose magnificent expose of the fraud found in the 2004 election in Milwaukee County was disbanded before 2008 and its members sent to retirement, or to the nether, nether regions of the MPD. Their report was never meant to see the light of day and was released to the public "accidentally" by the MPD PR folks during the transition between the regimes of Hegarty and Flynn.

I firmly believe there was fraud. Whether it was enough to turnthe election, we'll never know, but somebody ought to look into it.

36 posted on 11/13/2012 6:05:33 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: GilGil
At least Colonel West is fighting, which is more than can be said about Romney or numerous other Republicans. For instance, I cannot believe that the Democrats picked up Senate seats in North Dakota and Montana when Romney carried both states by wide margins.

Allen West should run for Governor of Florida in two years, and maybe President in 2016. He is a true American hero.

37 posted on 11/13/2012 6:14:53 AM PST by Wallace T.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

What went RIGHT was the SEIU, Acorn, the Communist Party USA researched with computer models for years and set up ahead of time bussed in voters to key and strategic polling stations.

Targeted of course was Ohio, and Florida. States that have the highest odds of winning the election in the past, states that in the next election should be placed on probation or in stasis, they have too much impact and makes the whole election process nothing more than a cheap traveling carnival with America as the rubes.

Push hard and don’t let up about voter fraud in these states and hopefully before december 17th we can get this election overturned.


38 posted on 11/13/2012 6:21:16 AM PST by Eye of Unk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz; left that other site; Eleutheria5; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; ...
With the flawed admin of Ohaha, America has witnessed the consequences of a generation inculcated with moral relativity and situation ethics.

There has always been some amorality and immorailty in our society, but the difference now is that it has become the norm in a much wider swath of the population. The influence of the 60s generation plus the immigration from the Third World nations has contributed much to the breakdown of the once common virtuousness of the population. It's only where there is such erosion of traditional values and ethics that a "Santa Claus mentality" regarding the role of government can be so pervasive.

They clearly see themselves as "deconstructionists"----savagely committed to tearing down America's traditions.

Only the leaders of the left know what the word "deconstructionist" means. Most of the followers are too ignorant to have a true sense of the damage they are doing. They are just told that they will get some goodies by following the party line. They have little idea that somewhere down the road the people they now follow might turn on them.

39 posted on 11/13/2012 7:14:32 AM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic; Brown Deer; Diana in Wisconsin; All
The Milwaukee PD Task Force whose magnificent expose of the fraud found in the 2004 election in Milwaukee County was disbanded before 2008 and its members sent to retirement, or to the nether, nether regions of the MPD. Their report was never meant to see the light of day and was released to the public "accidentally" by the MPD PR folks during the transition between the regimes of Hegarty and Flynn.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't up on Milwaukee 2004.

But that was then, this is now, and you have a Republican state administration in place in Wisconsin, plus a governor fortified by winning the recall election decisively. Are your AG and SOS Republicans now? If so, why would they be reluctant to investigate fraud from this year and prosecute it if they think they have a good case against the fraudsters? Is it the skin pigmentation of the suspects?

Do you yourself know of fraud in Wisconsin this year? (I haven't heard as much about that as I have about Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.) If so, please post what you know so that we can get an idea.

40 posted on 11/13/2012 3:16:27 PM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

The AG is a RINO and the SOS is a far left Dim.

I personally don’t know of any voter fraud, although I’m sure it occurred. I heard about a suspicious incident in Delafield, but it was a 3rd hand story. It’s hard to get anyone to investigate voter fraud. Everyone wants to sweep it under the rug. Our main problem is the same day registration IMO, but that is like a Holy Cow in this state. No one wants to touch it.

IMO, registration should be closed 30 days before a single vote is cast to give time for the clerks to check the address. And photo ID should be required.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 3:53:31 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic; Liz; Red Steel; David; GreatOne; patriot08; ExTexasRedhead; AJFavish; ...
Our main problem is the same day registration IMO, but that is like a Holy Cow in this state.

Same day registration, early voting, Motor Voter, hackable electronic optical scanners and other electronic vote counting devices: all are gifts to prospective fraudsters!!! And none of those existed or at least were not common when Reagan won the presidency. Voter ID would help somewhat in reducing these problems, but it's not an instant panacea. The best single measure to tamp down on electoral fraud and cheating is to enforce the state criminal statutes already on the books by charging, prosecuting, convicting, and sentencing the perpetrators.

Now why the heck should same day registration become such a Holy Cow to anyone interested in preserving the honesty and integrity of the vote? Those who cherish it are the same bunch who are vehemently opposed to voter ID cards.

42 posted on 11/13/2012 7:10:47 PM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: griswold3
The Republicans nominated a guy that lost to McCain who had lost to Obama! (Like Dole lost to Bush and ran against Clinton in 1996!) Does anyone beside me see a pattern here that indicate stupidity reigns?

In 1980, we nominated the guy who lost to Ford who lost to Carter.

43 posted on 11/13/2012 7:15:35 PM PST by Drew68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93; afraidfortherepublic; Liz; Red Steel; David; GreatOne; patriot08; ...
hackable electronic optical scanners and other electronic vote counting devices

They make you shut off your phone in a medical office. They should make you shut off your phone (or better yet they should temporarily confiscate it?) in a polling place. Who knows but someone has developed a Bluetooth-capable app for a smartphone that can read data from an optical scanner. They can then step outside and tell the other side how many more people to bus over for votes. I'm not putting it past them.

44 posted on 11/13/2012 7:24:58 PM PST by thecodont
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93
Those who cherish it are the same bunch who are vehemently opposed to voter ID cards.

And without exception, they are Democrats.

45 posted on 11/13/2012 7:39:54 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic
And without exception, they are Democrats.

So why can't Wisconsin, with a popular GOP governor able to survive recall and a GOP legislature, enact a state law repealing same day registration.

46 posted on 11/14/2012 7:53:24 AM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

I’ve been asking that for 27 years. We have a cocuple of generations of residents who have been brainwashed by their union teachers into thinking that it is a good idea.


47 posted on 11/14/2012 11:28:21 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Liz; left that other site; editor-surveyor; afraidfortherepublic; ...
To Star Parker:

Many of us admire you personally for your life story and conversion to a cleaner life through a sharp change in your value system and your political orientation.

But we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion about changing demographics had the election been conducted on the level, because Mitt Romney would be president-elect. What Republicans should be criticized most for is failure to recognize the threat from the fraudsters and cheaters who turned this election around and failure to take adequate countermeasures to combat it.

Just about anyone following this race up until Election Day predicted a probable Romney win. Unfortunately, the most objective pollster or pundit can't account for the fraud and cheating beforehand.

Michael Barone, who probably knows the geography and demographics of the country and their influence on real voting patterns better than anyone alive, predicted a significant Romney win. And he knows all about "demographic change." So you probably should have been surprised, as were many in the Romney camp.

48 posted on 11/14/2012 5:31:36 PM PST by justiceseeker93
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93

Barone predicted “landslide” (as did George Will, no less). Wish Barone had not apologized so quickly because there is enough actual evidence mounting for fraud. Lost cause thus far. RINOs are too busy kissing up to the “new” Administration.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-i-was-wrongwhere-it-counted/article/2512860
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

BTW: Did you see this?

Infographic of the day: Obama lost independent voters in all swing states minus NC
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959496/posts


49 posted on 11/14/2012 5:57:38 PM PST by thouworm (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

             

50 posted on 11/14/2012 6:02:26 PM PST by tomkat (a million tiny cuts .. add yours daily .. be creative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson